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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V63, such tered. so drama. many popkorn. wow

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davidke20
post Jul 25 2014, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(baowen @ Jul 25 2014, 12:36 AM)
i drive my friend new myvi 1.3SE
the steering is too responsive... (myvi is EPS right? but why so responsive compare with god car)

and i found this is an issue because i cannot keep the car in straight line -.-"

tai kor david your new car got this problem?
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My dick is responsive. The steering is just too light. Instead of the 1st batch kena recalled new MyBi, they used to put some weight to the steering so driver can hold/feel the road. Now the problem is, after kena komplen due to elektrik motor cut off time misaligned with action, they removed the cut off line and go full time EPS. So now, even you roll over an ant also the car will change direction. Response? Not as I figured.

1) Tayar too tall. When I make a hard turn, tayar wall compressed too much. Whole car dive into a terminal radial G. At this point if I try to counter steer. probably gonna flip the car over.
2) Wheel offset is totally wrong for the vehicle geometry. Pick an example of 45' turning, you increase speed from 60kph, it doesn't go understeer. You think you're safe so you increase speed, suddenly all hell break loose, you're either understeer fly to longkang or spinout. Couple with the feedbackless EPS, it's a totally fucked up combination of disaster. If the steering was designed to be responsive, before the breaking point the steering would have been kicked back already.
3) The same kinda shit applied on dugong can be found in MyBi. Try to press the bonet with my own body weight. It doesn't go down. Try the back, I think the panel go kemek the car also wouldn't move at all. This give an idea of ordinary consumer the suspension has been properly tuned for performance! Take out the damper, the car will not sink! For any ordinary driver/passenger, that kinda instant absorption due to hard spring coupled with soft damper is seemed to be the best setup for comfort. However, in reality u know when the damper absorbed shocks, the next action is getting rebounce by the spring(especially the hard 1). Wheels in the air yo

So, the responsive you feel, is lack of feedback.
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post Jul 25 2014, 06:03 AM

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QUOTE(Alphabet Mulia @ Jul 25 2014, 01:05 AM)
Selamat Hari Raya to muslim fren.

neway, need some helps. actually i've raised my problem here b4. &someone able 2 giv some sort of solution..i've tried b4,but failed..there is sum kind of noise keep buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzziiiiiing my ears....

so..im willing 2 pay rm50 2 ppl who can settle my prob. the noise r really3000x annoying..oredi sent to two service centres and both were trying their "best"(tangan ke dada, mata ke atas) to resolve the problem..

i think the noise come from front passenger belt.but everytym i send to SC, they keep open the "door compartment"(whatever),put A,cut B,remove C and blah...blah..blah..still, the noise keep coming.

pliz dont say - owhhhh what u expect from proton..only 1 rattling sound..

so pliz all sifu..help me..anyone,if u can n willing 2 help,hope u can help after raya..maybe next tt..
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post Jul 25 2014, 06:05 AM

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QUOTE(wmd3477 @ Jul 25 2014, 01:19 AM)
Power ok ka? Wind noise is quite loud i think in the new mavi,like Alza..
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post Jul 25 2014, 06:39 AM

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QUOTE(baowen @ Jul 25 2014, 01:37 AM)
wah.. sibeh detailed, salute  notworthy.gif
exactly what i feel when drive the mYVvi.
lack of feedback and worried if i will buang on the corner...
GaGa seems better here  whistling.gif  whistling.gif (can cornering at 110km/h (not those sharp corner la....) but my body still haven't buang out from the seat... with god car, already half ass moved out from my seat)
it is too responsive or "lack of feedback" and make you into mind to go slow on corner..
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Seriously dude, when you're the owner of MyBi, got so used to EPS, you have loss the alertness of road feedback. It's like holding a joystick mouse controlling direction. It's not wrong for them to make it full time engaged with the EPS either, just like when ABS was newly introduced, half the world was cursing the loss of foot brake feedback. And nowadays, 80% of the world has been relying on ABS. Give them an old Wigra 1.5, could have crashed ady yawn.gif Guess what, the car was very welcomed by the family. None of them even notice the steering being over SENSITIVE(instead of responsive). What I got was, after my waifu being pampered by the EPS, she now komplen said my GaGa steering is heavy(now this is a real feeling, real comparison, heavy or light, not responsive or retarded) blink.gif

A properly designed/manufactured handling car, came with a front dropped spindle, self aligned castor, flexi camber by default. After 15 years, still selling 65k(cash)

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lhwj said wanted to buy 1 of this wor whistling.gif
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post Jul 25 2014, 06:48 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 25 2014, 02:20 AM)
Wind noise is not noticable, because covered by tire roar and engine noise whistling.gif
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Engine whine very nicely, I think sounded better then FLX's CVT whining noise laugh.gif
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post Jul 25 2014, 06:52 AM

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QUOTE(pherac @ Jul 25 2014, 03:46 AM)
my saga is 8 months old
recently there have been 2 incidents where whe I started  the car, the engine suddenly revved up. I swear I did not pedal the accelerator. Is this normal?

Also was driving my friend's new viva, the steering is sooo light as compared to my saga's.
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This looks like throttlebody self calibration after fuel return line got stuck with too much petrol before engine shut down previously. Does it happen all the time? If it's an isolated case(happen once in a blue moon), can just ignore it. If you're still under warranty, get SC to look into it. If woranti sudah koyaked, get it scan to see if there's fault code in the ECU. If not, try Techron since can flush fuel system.
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post Jul 25 2014, 06:55 AM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Jul 25 2014, 06:54 AM)
Bro why the hatred? Wow much despair such pain
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post Jul 25 2014, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(wmd3477 @ Jul 25 2014, 09:54 AM)
My gaga oso cum with the same prob..3 times i went to SC to reset ECU..now baru ok...
Now people at SC oledi noe me...kikiki
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post Jul 25 2014, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(NOX @ Jul 25 2014, 04:01 PM)
haha. i forgot the figure.

seem electronic stuff do some magic to the result too.

just done some research.

"The 1.6-liter engine produces 125 metric horsepower (92 kW; 123 hp) and 148 newton metres (109 lb·ft) torque".

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gerun dgn 1.3 sana horsie more powderful then my 1.5.
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post Jul 26 2014, 09:32 AM

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Spoon feed needed. What's the huait kaler kot for MyBi SE ar? My GaGa is so much huaiter den my MyBi hmm.gif
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post Jul 26 2014, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Jul 26 2014, 11:08 AM)
Pink tarak ke... hmm.gif

Saw pink coloured basic myvi...
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post Jul 27 2014, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Jul 26 2014, 08:16 PM)
If now it is whiter, then wait somemore until ur LPLB becomes yellowish white.
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My GaGa is huaiter sleep.gif
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post Jul 27 2014, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(uncleben @ Jul 26 2014, 10:50 PM)
iinm for 13" rim cover is rm50 only.. at brother i saw for rm98 is for 15"
seems like u kena chop..  ohmy.gif

btw.. sory bro david.. cant make it to dyno.. had to go shah alam fetch my bro at intec..
guys.. im gonna change rims soon.. stick with 15" still.. got this rim price around rm900.. tot its very cheap so im scared its gonna kemek easily.. or maybe im wrong? can some1 advice me on this?
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post Jul 27 2014, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 27 2014, 01:15 AM)
NippleNippon paint gooding
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post Jul 27 2014, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(uncleben @ Jul 27 2014, 08:43 AM)
selamat hari raya to every1 here.. to all the muslims.. jgn igt lauk raya jek smpai tinggal solat raya... maaf zahir and batin.. haha.. do you guys have raya tities?
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post Jul 27 2014, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 27 2014, 09:28 AM)
Last time I remember u told us your gaga also pakai Nippon paint geh sleep.gif
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Have u notice my side mirror, door handles all came with different kaler laugh.gif
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post Jul 27 2014, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(uncleben @ Jul 27 2014, 03:23 PM)
just came back from tyre shop.. change new sets of rims... rclxm9.gif 
blik kg with new shoe..  rclxm9.gif
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post Jul 28 2014, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 28 2014, 12:16 AM)
That JayChowhigh piece of crap sohigh film, watch liao make my IQ drop.
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post Jul 28 2014, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 28 2014, 12:28 AM)
my mom kept saying "neh racing ah, you like punya"

i'm like "err..."
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QUOTE(Razsus @ Jul 28 2014, 04:42 AM)
When you apply brakes when the car is trying to stop ( not fully stop tok sound )  should be caliper pin loosen kot, ( my case is that la one in a million saga got this ) hahahaha maybe your number 2 tongue.gif
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For Plotong GaGa, make it 3 whistling.gif Its supposed to be wear & tear. Most 2006 MyBi ady kena whistling.gif

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