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> Hitler might have been right, Hitler Kejam Ke Atas Yahudi Tapi Kenapa

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post Jul 20 2014, 01:09 AM

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kalau ostad asri perlu mintak maaf sebab buat artikel rasis, ostad badrul amin dah minta maaf kat ostad asri ke? laugh.gif


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post Jul 20 2014, 01:10 AM

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This just goes to show that we can't really delete anything in our era of internet and technology. Be mindful of what you say, it may come to haunt you in the future.
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post Jul 20 2014, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(cellfreezer @ Jul 20 2014, 12:10 AM)
They don't stress much on comprehension in vernacular schools, sadly.
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You think its ok to exterminate a race because of "bad history"?

They certainly don't stress too much on logic in your school definitely.
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post Jul 20 2014, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(shrimp.kebab @ Jul 19 2014, 11:57 PM)
Dr Asri only say the Jews have always have bad reputation in history. He never condone what Hitler did.

i see nothing wrong with that.
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meaning misleading title? hmm.gif
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post Jul 20 2014, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(kernel123 @ Jul 20 2014, 01:03 AM)
this the actual text.

an excert could be mistakenly interpreted without the full text.
" Kita bukan anti kaum tertentu, atau anti-semitic secara membabi buta seperti Hitler atau masyarakat Eropah dahulu. Namun jika kita melihat Yahudi Israel hari ini mengkhianati perjanjian atau bersikap jahat, itu bukanlah perkara baru dan pelik untuk mereka kerjakan. Kepercayaan Hitler itu, mungkin ada benarnya "
http://drmaza.com/home/?p=542

kindly read the full text. notice me if u want the english translation   tongue.gif
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that is a very very disgusting 'kerpercayaan'.

no, there is no true in that believe. it is never good to judge a race to deem they are good or evil. exactly same you can never say all Malaysia's Malay are all bad people.

when the 2 governments fighting each other, there's still many israelis giving help and visiting palestinians. because even though they have different belief, most people still believe humanity should be above any belief or idea.

what he's saying is trying to push Israel and Palestine to hate each other even more. this is not words from somebody who want peace.

the more all people around the world pushing both side to an extreme state, the more peace talk will be further from them.

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post Jul 20 2014, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(jonoave @ Jul 20 2014, 12:46 AM)
Interesting. Thanks for clarifying.

Guess the original post in TS can be slightly misleading.

However, I still think it's better if he'd have steer clear from this issue.
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exactly. even if it might be taken out of context it would have been a better article if he didn't mention Hitler in the first place.

and yes i do firmly believe that Hitler would have purged the Muslims as well if he had his way. but i guess i'm the odd one out here.
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QUOTE(mukhlisz @ Jul 20 2014, 01:13 AM)
exactly. even if it might be taken out of context it would have been a better article if he didn't mention Hitler in the first place.

and yes i do firmly believe that Hitler would have purged the Muslims as well if he had his way. but i guess i'm the odd one out here.
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Hitler tremendously hate coloured people, so he wouldn't think twice to eradicate Malaysia's muslims. Because he's a very devoted Christian (although most priests and bishops in Europe that time never agree with what he had done).
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Why certain m'sian always obsessed with hitler
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post Jul 20 2014, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(Zarazagoza @ Jul 20 2014, 12:20 AM)
QUOTE(kernel123 @ Jul 20 2014, 01:03 AM)
this the actual text.

an excert could be mistakenly interpreted without the full text.
" Kita bukan anti kaum tertentu, atau anti-semitic secara membabi buta seperti Hitler atau masyarakat Eropah dahulu. Namun jika kita melihat Yahudi Israel hari ini mengkhianati perjanjian atau bersikap jahat, itu bukanlah perkara baru dan pelik untuk mereka kerjakan. Kepercayaan Hitler itu, mungkin ada benarnya "
http://drmaza.com/home/?p=542

kindly read the full text. notice me if u want the english translation   tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Jul 20 2014, 12:57 AM)
quoted this again to show people he's a blindly racist people.

he should apologize to all the jews people that protest on israel attack on palestine.
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I help you quote part of this thread so that you read again and not blindly tembak. I'm not saying I pro Dr Asri kaw kaw, but unless you get the excerpt from the person who said it (direct source), chances are what the person said is to be manipulated by the media is so high. From football player interviews all the way to things like this.

But then again, each of us have different approach and rational to this matter. Racial issues will never be easy to solve, we were thought to be divided by race since long long time ago. So when this issue comes up, question for equality and generalization to a certain behaviour towards a race will spark a small flame that's capable of burning up a community

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post Jul 20 2014, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Jul 20 2014, 01:17 AM)
Hitler tremendously hate coloured people, so he wouldn't think twice to eradicate Malaysia's muslims. Because he's a very devoted Christian (although most priests and bishops in Europe that time never agree with what he had done).
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closest depiction of modern Nazism i could think of was in the movie V for Vendetta. in the movie it was alluded they systematically eliminated the homosexuals, muslims and prolly colored people too (i might be wrong but i can't recall any non-white characters in the movie).

i imagine it's how things would have turned out if they won WW2 and conquered the entire world.
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post Jul 20 2014, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(dotadellpro @ Jul 20 2014, 01:12 AM)
You think its ok to exterminate a race because of "bad history"?

They certainly don't stress too much on logic in your school definitely.
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In case of the jews, yeah I think its ok to exterminate them. whistling.gif
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post Jul 20 2014, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(arsengal @ Jul 20 2014, 01:19 AM)
I help you quote part of this thread so that you read again and not blindly tembak. I'm not saying I pro Dr Asri kaw kaw, but unless you get the excerpt from the person who said it (direct source), chances are what the person said is to be manipulated by the media is so high. From football player interviews all the way to things like this.
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I'm referring to what he posted in FB: https://www.facebook.com/DrMAZA/posts/10152623293357990

It is a very racist remark. My opinion is that this is a very blindly hatred, if it is spread to the media in Israel, it would make them hate Palestine even more. We do not want to add salt to the wound for this 2 nations.

What else have I misunderstand?

This is a very bad example to the muslims in malaysia:

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Jika jawapannya, Yahudi memang dalam sejarahnya telah bangsa merosakkan kehidupan manusia sehingga menjadi ketakutan kepada masyarakat Eropah, tindakan kejam atau rakus Adolf Hitler, sekalipun kejam dan tidak dapat diterima, namun ia secara tidak langsung mengurangkan jumlah kemerbahayaan Yahudi kepada masyarakat Eropah khususnya dan dunia amnya.

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QUOTE(TreyLey @ Jul 20 2014, 01:17 AM)
Why certain m'sian always obsessed with hitler
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they got no other idols mah ....
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post Jul 20 2014, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(mukhlisz @ Jul 19 2014, 08:13 PM)
exactly. even if it might be taken out of context it would have been a better article if he didn't mention Hitler in the first place.

and yes i do firmly believe that Hitler would have purged the Muslims as well if he had his way. but i guess i'm the odd one out here.
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Yeah, unfortunately I think you're the one of the few rare ones. Since muslims here have been told since young to that Jews are evil and the Palestine/Israel issue.
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post Jul 20 2014, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(mukhlisz @ Jul 20 2014, 01:22 AM)
closest depiction of modern Nazism i could think of was in the movie V for Vendetta. in the movie it was alluded they systematically eliminated the homosexuals, muslims and prolly colored people too (i might be wrong but i can't recall any non-white characters in the movie).

i imagine it's how things would have turned out if they won WW2 and conquered the entire world.
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it's not going to be easy, because population of muslims are quite large. I imagine they would have unite and against Nazi.

But Hitler ain't stupid either, he will brainwashed all caucasians to think their life are in danger if they do not eliminate muslims first.

Just show them a few extremist writings on anti-christian will do, human's heart and weak and fragile to be manipulated by fear and hatred.
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post Jul 20 2014, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(cellfreezer @ Jul 20 2014, 01:25 AM)
In case of the jews, yeah I think its ok to exterminate them.  whistling.gif
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If I put Muslims there, I am sure all Muslims would attack me for being a racist, ignorant etc.

Lord knows that Muslims are making really interesting history nowadays. whistling.gif

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Seems like he supports genocide like what Hitler did in WW2.

I wonder what has happen to him. Things that he said used to make sense but not this one.

I guess hatred has clouded his judgment. shakehead.gif
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post Jul 20 2014, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(Zarazagoza @ Jul 20 2014, 12:20 AM)
thanks, updated to the main post.

the news is taken from the malay mail online.

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post Jul 20 2014, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Jul 20 2014, 01:26 AM)
I'm referring to what he posted in FB: https://www.facebook.com/DrMAZA/posts/10152623293357990

It is a very racist remark. My opinion is that this is a very blindly hatred, if it is spread to the media in Israel, it would make them hate Palestine even more. We do not want to add salt to the wound for this 2 nations.

What else have I misunderstand?

This is a very bad example to the muslims in malaysia:
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if u just quote that part, he might sound racist. dont forget this part too "Pun begitu Islam tidak mengiktiraf kekejaman sekalipun ke atas Yahudi. Setiap individu tanpa mengira latar bangsa hendaklah dihukum secara adil dan saksama."

so what do u think of that line bro?
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post Jul 20 2014, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(marlick25 @ Jul 20 2014, 01:47 AM)
if u just quote that part, he might sound racist. dont forget this part too "Pun begitu Islam tidak mengiktiraf kekejaman sekalipun ke atas Yahudi. Setiap individu tanpa mengira latar bangsa hendaklah dihukum secara adil dan saksama."

so what do u think of that line bro?
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agreed he never condone to that.

basically the malay mail online twist it.

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