just annoying when TNB does maintenance in your area, but good la............idiots help drive the prices down

depend on the voltage, and depend its ac or dc
if dc would be >500kv

It's useless to based on a poll to decide on the danger of HTC.

In those old days, if you run a poll on whether the earth is round or flat. All the answers come back will be the earth is flat.

So when the poll results says the earth is flat, does it mean the earth is really flat ?

I know someone working in TNB as an engineer. He told me the frequency of the high tension cable is only 50mhz and cause nothing to our health. The one that causing cells damage is the mobile phone which is more than 10x worst than anything you have in your house and still we are neglecting it and talking about high tension cables.

Bust myth also no use. Property with HTC will die.

did you even read the post? I'm telling you that HTC is harmless. The poll is just to gauge public's perception.

For investment maybe, but for those who are buying it for ownstay this might be helpful 

The purpose of this thread is to bust/discuss the myths/misconceptions regarding high tension cables.
Does this sound familiar? "aiya got high tension cable near your house, sure you'll get cancer" "I really like that house but didnt buy it because I dont wanna harm my family's health"

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Some General Knowledge First:

What are the harms associated with high tension cables?
-High tension cables carry Alternating-Current (AC), and due to the alternating nature of it generates a magnetic field that is constantly expanding and collapsing call Electromagnetic Field (EMF). Electromagnetic fields (EMFs) are a type of low-frequency electromagnetic radiation emitted from virtually everything electrical and electronic in our modern world — power lines, transformers, electrical panels, building wiring, computers, lights, clocks, appliances, televisions, hairdryers, cell phones, cordless phones, microwave ovens, Wi-Fi, wireless routers and other devices, TV/radio/cell towers, etc.
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The idea that living near high-voltage power lines is bad for your health has been around for many years. Illnesses attributed to power lines include childhood leukemias, other cancers, abnormal heart rhythms, miscarriages, low birth weight, birth defects, and other illnesses that might lead to premature death. Despite the conclusions of many studies that find no detectable risk, many people remain unconvinced about the safety of power lines, misconceptions passed on for generations.

Argument 1: Living close to high tension cables put you at a health risk.

- Over the last 20 years, multiple studies have been published reviewing the effect of high-power voltage lines on human health. Among the most recent was a study from England of more than 83,000 workers in the electricity industry. Researchers found no increase in brain cancer or overall death rate when compared to those who did not work around electromagnetic fields. Reports from major research centers in at least nine countries have come to similar conclusions:There is no compelling evidence of any health hazard from power lines. If power lines have any effect on human health, it is small.

Argument 2 : Even though there's no proof that high tension cables are harmful I would like to stay a safe distance from it.

- There're safe distance guide all over the internet, mostly just a generalized standard ranging from a few meters to a few kilometers. The best solution is to take an accurate measurement of the EMF at your house. This is where I come in, because of this same reason I've invested in an EMF meter. So now for the sake of our future generations I'll go to your place to take an EMF reading for free & during my free time. Based on the readings I've gathered from various sites I can say that most houses with high tension cables nearby, the EMF would've died off and WILL NOT reach your house. So even if you stay near high tension cables you would be getting most of the EMF radiation from your household appliances rather than the high tension cables.

With that I conclude this post, please do not hesitate to post constructive arguments. kthxbye

tldr : No proof that high tension cables are a health risk, even if there's a risk you won't be in range anyway.

HTC is harmless also useless. HTC is eyesore.

did you even read the post? I'm telling you that HTC is harmless. The poll is just to gauge public's perception.

And you asking keyboard warriors here to give you the answer, expecting them to know better than experts.. 

I expect the crowd here to be more matured since its not /k 
hopefully we can gain something constructive out of this

I am saying the poll has no bearing to the truth.

However :-

If you are concerned about property price, then you should be concerned with the perception, not the truth.

If you are concerned about the truth, then you should ignore the poll.

I expect the crowd here to be more matured since its not /k 
hopefully we can gain something constructive out of this

perseption is mother of all truth.. get it? 

(registered trademark of gogo2)

wonder why you dont want to use the search function and look for the same thread, and read from there
from those previous thread, you will know what to "expect" as the outcome of the discussion..

because nobody would read a huge wall of text in the middle of another thread right?
i need to keep the main points easily accessible at the first page
i expect uninformed people to gain awareness

I will wait for case of HTC touching ground and see how many die ... 

Should have safety features right?

If htc touch ground. The power by default cut off  at transmission station?

Nope. The cable drop on you and you touch the ground, you complete the circuit and die. Lol

Prospective buyer to your house you own may have negative perception abt HTC near to the house they may purchase if they believe in feng shui or frienda advice.. So if you want to buy for investment maybe its good to find a house elsewhere. If for own stay its up to your own feeling abt living near to HTC. Just my 2 cents.

This picture is taken from my garden.
As you can see it is quite close - above 50 meters away.
I did a lot of research before I bought this house last year.
From the research I concluded that the risk is very minimal, if at all.
Because of this I paid about RM 500 psf. Other places - about 100m away from my property is going for more than RM 1k psf.
I stay at Ampang Hilir. You will not find such a price in Ampang Hilir.
No regrets.
For all you know the HTC could have been underground and you would have no idea.

Very good thread.

I will wait for case of HTC touching ground and see how many die ... 

Nope. The cable drop on you and you touch the ground, you complete the circuit and die. Lol

i reckon that you're right, many proof in youtube.

For own stay, alright if you can sleep over it.
For investment, not recommended because the perception drives the price.

Google it and read reputable studies from gov agencies or universities.

Infants are affected in most of the reports that I had read previously and there was a recommendation of 500m distance, for safety precaution.

Emf is absorbed by earth when the cables are underground.

For those who keep talking htc is just fine, I wonder why.

It's like listening to morning radio and they keep mentioning Malaysia debt rating is grade A, and we're in a very good hand.

For those who keep talking htc is just fine, I wonder why.

It's like listening to morning radio and they keep mentioning Malaysia debt rating is grade A, and we're in a very good hand.

erm.. because we do our research instead of listening blindly to what people say?

ask those people to stay beside HTC lor.. see long they can survive..

this is pointless to debate. you can have all the truth in the world that htc is safe but in the end nobody wants a htc near their house if they have a choice. period. therefore houses near htc always trade at a discount.  period. if some people want to prove the truth and are not like keyboard warriors, can go purposely move your family next to the htc and live long lives and be part of a new study, but in the end if we had the money we would prefer look out of the window and see trees instead of htc.

Htc theory,
rebates gao gao = htc is safe for living nearby, there are plenty of research support this.

Please print out and keep those articles, it's necessary to tell next buyers about Htc = safe.

i dont care whether it is true or not..i will spread the false so that i will get a cheaper house for me to buy..hahahaha

Whatever the reports say. I'm sure most ppl will stay away given a choice.

i dont care whether it is true or not..i will spread the false so that i will get a cheaper house for me to buy..hahahaha

Mana ada discount lebih oh? Htc units selling for the same price nia, since it's safe to stay mah.

Why ask for discount / give you discount?
You tak mau, you go away.

those discount lebih can be saved for medical bills later la..

Yes bero, talk koker can tell whatever crap they want.

Link
Cannot say no effect especially those huge pylons.

HIGH TENSION CABLES DO NOT HARM YOUR HEALTH
The purpose of this thread is to bust/discuss the myths/misconceptions regarding high tension cables.
Does this sound familiar? "aiya got high tension cable near your house, sure you'll get cancer" "I really like that house but didnt buy it because I dont wanna harm my family's health"

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Some General Knowledge First:

What are the harms associated with high tension cables?
-High tension cables carry Alternating-Current (AC), and due to the alternating nature of it generates a magnetic field that is constantly expanding and collapsing call Electromagnetic Field (EMF). Electromagnetic fields (EMFs) are a type of low-frequency electromagnetic radiation emitted from virtually everything electrical and electronic in our modern world — power lines, transformers, electrical panels, building wiring, computers, lights, clocks, appliances, televisions, hairdryers, cell phones, cordless phones, microwave ovens, Wi-Fi, wireless routers and other devices, TV/radio/cell towers, etc.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The idea that living near high-voltage power lines is bad for your health has been around for many years. Illnesses attributed to power lines include childhood leukemias, other cancers, abnormal heart rhythms, miscarriages, low birth weight, birth defects, and other illnesses that might lead to premature death. Despite the conclusions of many studies that find no detectable risk, many people remain unconvinced about the safety of power lines, misconceptions passed on for generations.

Argument 1: Living close to high tension cables put you at a health risk.

- Over the last 20 years, multiple studies have been published reviewing the effect of high-power voltage lines on human health. Among the most recent was a study from England of more than 83,000 workers in the electricity industry. Researchers found no increase in brain cancer or overall death rate when compared to those who did not work around electromagnetic fields. Reports from major research centers in at least nine countries have come to similar conclusions:There is no compelling evidence of any health hazard from power lines. If power lines have any effect on human health, it is small.

Argument 2 : Even though there's no proof that high tension cables are harmful I would like to stay a safe distance from it.

- There're safe distance guide all over the internet, mostly just a generalized standard ranging from a few meters to a few kilometers. The best solution is to take an accurate measurement of the EMF at your house. This is where I come in, because of this same reason I've invested in an EMF meter. So now for the sake of our future generations I'll go to your place to take an EMF reading for free & during my free time. Based on the readings I've gathered from various sites I can say that most houses with high tension cables nearby, the EMF would've died off and WILL NOT reach your house. So even if you stay near high tension cables you would be getting most of the EMF radiation from your household appliances rather than the high tension cables.

With that I conclude this post, please do not hesitate to post constructive arguments. kthxbye

tldr : No proof that high tension cables are a health risk, even if there's a risk you won't be in range anyway.

Large study links power lines to childhood cancer
By Gaia Vince

Children living near overhead power lines may have an increased risk of leukemia but the association may not be causal, UK researchers say.

The confusing message, which comes from the largest study to date – of over 29,000 children with cancer – is that since “there is no biological mechanism to explain the higher risk”, the results, “although statistically significant, may be due to chance”.

The study – a collaboration between the Childhood Cancer Research Group at the University of Oxford and National Grid owners, Transco – looked at cancer data in England and Wales between 1962 and 1995, for children aged up to 15 years old.

They were able to map how far each child lived from a high voltage overhead power line. Comparing the children who had cancer with a control group of 29,000 children without cancer but who lived in comparable districts, found that children whose birth address was within 200 metres of an overhead power line had a 70% increased risk of leukemia. Children living 200 to 600 m away from power lines had a 20% increased risk.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7460...ildhood-cancer/
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2005/ju...dicineandhealth
http://news.cancerconnect.com/children-liv...sk-of-leukemia/ 
This study aimed to investigate association of living near high voltage power lines with occurrence of childhood acute lymphoblastic leukemia (ALL). Through a case-control study 300 children aged 1-18 years with confirmed ALL were selected from all referral teaching centers for cancer. They interviewed for history of living near overhead high voltage power lines during at least past two years and compared with 300 controls which were individually matched for sex and approximate age. Logistic regression, chi square and paired t-tests were used for analysis when appropriate. The case group were living significantly closer to power lines (P<0.001). More than half of the cases were exposed to two or three types of power lines (P<0.02). Using logistic regression, odds ratio of 2.61 (95%CI: 1.73 to 3.94) calculated for less than 600 meters far from the nearest lines against more than 600 meters. This ratio estimated as 9.93 (95%CI: 3.47 to 28.5) for 123 KV, 10.78 (95%CI: 3.75 to 31) for 230 KV and 2.98 (95%CI: 0.93 to 9.54) for 400 KV lines. Odds of ALL decreased 0.61 for every 600 meters from the nearest power line. This study emphasizes that living close to high voltage power lines is a risk for ALL.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20843128

mind posting your source? 

Whatever the argument on HTC,
Those who really didn't like HTC,
Will just like house "facing" a road...
Sometimes very hard to explain why ppl didn't like.
But just like our Malaysian culture...

most htc units can't sell in reasonable price when ppl finally want to get rid of the unit.

guys look, the science is out there, please see it for yourselves.
this is an EMF meter, this thing detects electromagnetic fields,

i suggest you get one and start pointing it at HTC cables,
most of the time most houses will be out of the EMF range or it'll be very weak,
after you've done that, bring the meter home and start pointing it at your electronics in your home,
you'll be surprised by how much more emf you're exposed to at home rather than those HTC cables.

so dont even bother fighting if HTC EMF causes cancer since you'll be out of range anyway

guys look, the science is out there, please see it for yourselves.
this is an EMF meter, this thing detects electromagnetic fields,

i suggest you get one and start pointing it at HTC cables,
most of the time most houses will be out of the EMF range or it'll be very weak,
after you've done that, bring the meter home and start pointing it at your electronics in your home,
you'll be surprised by how much more emf you're exposed to at home rather than those HTC cables.

so dont even bother fighting if HTC EMF causes cancer since you'll be out of range anyway

let's see what HTC fansi gonna say about this..

https://youtu.be/0zGnfL_Cc7M

Fluorescent tubes under power lines

If you take a normal long fluorescent tube and hold it vertically under a high voltage power line after dark you will be able to see that it lights up of its own accord.
http://www.larkinweb.co.uk/miscellany/fluo...ower_lines.html

yeah, household items are the worst.

i once place my water plant next to my house router, guess what, the leaf looks like burn for those facing the wifi router.

Can we explain this to future buyers of our units?

https://youtu.be/0zGnfL_Cc7M

Fluorescent tubes under power lines

If you take a normal long fluorescent tube and hold it vertically under a high voltage power line after dark you will be able to see that it lights up of its own accord.
http://www.larkinweb.co.uk/miscellany/fluo...ower_lines.html

WARNING: DO NOT attempt this experiment in the rain.

yeah, household items are the worst.

i once place my water plant next to my house router, guess what, the leaf looks like burn for those facing the wifi router.

Well it just proves your unwillingness to debate a subject properly,  go try it then come back and talk
Of course you can
You'll receive maximum emf by standing directly under the cable,  the emf meter will tell you that,  which is what this video is trying to say. Try holding the tube from far away and see if it lights up?

Well it just proves your unwillingness to debate a subject properly,  go try it then come back and talk
Of course you can

since when i want to debate anything here? i just sharing my finding about router wifi signal for my god sake you kiddo joker!!