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Do you think that high tension cables are harmful to your health?
 
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TSXP750
post Jul 11 2014, 03:01 PM, updated 10y ago

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HIGH TENSION CABLES DO NOT HARM YOUR HEALTH
The purpose of this thread is to bust/discuss the myths/misconceptions regarding high tension cables.
Does this sound familiar? "aiya got high tension cable near your house, sure you'll get cancer" "I really like that house but didnt buy it because I dont wanna harm my family's health"

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Some General Knowledge First:

What are the harms associated with high tension cables?
-High tension cables carry Alternating-Current (AC), and due to the alternating nature of it generates a magnetic field that is constantly expanding and collapsing call Electromagnetic Field (EMF). Electromagnetic fields (EMFs) are a type of low-frequency electromagnetic radiation emitted from virtually everything electrical and electronic in our modern world — power lines, transformers, electrical panels, building wiring, computers, lights, clocks, appliances, televisions, hairdryers, cell phones, cordless phones, microwave ovens, Wi-Fi, wireless routers and other devices, TV/radio/cell towers, etc.
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The idea that living near high-voltage power lines is bad for your health has been around for many years. Illnesses attributed to power lines include childhood leukemias, other cancers, abnormal heart rhythms, miscarriages, low birth weight, birth defects, and other illnesses that might lead to premature death. Despite the conclusions of many studies that find no detectable risk, many people remain unconvinced about the safety of power lines, misconceptions passed on for generations.

Argument 1: Living close to high tension cables put you at a health risk.

- Over the last 20 years, multiple studies have been published reviewing the effect of high-power voltage lines on human health. Among the most recent was a study from England of more than 83,000 workers in the electricity industry. Researchers found no increase in brain cancer or overall death rate when compared to those who did not work around electromagnetic fields. Reports from major research centers in at least nine countries have come to similar conclusions:There is no compelling evidence of any health hazard from power lines. If power lines have any effect on human health, it is small.

Argument 2 : Even though there's no proof that high tension cables are harmful I would like to stay a safe distance from it.

- There're safe distance guide all over the internet, mostly just a generalized standard ranging from a few meters to a few kilometers. The best solution is to take an accurate measurement of the EMF at your house. This is where I come in, because of this same reason I've invested in an EMF meter. So now for the sake of our future generations I'll go to your place to take an EMF reading for free & during my free time. Based on the readings I've gathered from various sites I can say that most houses with high tension cables nearby, the EMF would've died off and WILL NOT reach your house. So even if you stay near high tension cables you would be getting most of the EMF radiation from your household appliances rather than the high tension cables.

With that I conclude this post, please do not hesitate to post constructive arguments. kthxbye

tldr : No proof that high tension cables are a health risk, even if there's a risk you won't be in range anyway.

This post has been edited by XP750: Jul 11 2014, 06:52 PM
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post Jul 11 2014, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(Gregyong @ Jul 11 2014, 03:06 PM)
just annoying when TNB does maintenance in your area, but good la............idiots help drive the prices down thumbup.gif
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wouldn't it be nice if they drive up the price instead? rclxms.gif


QUOTE(fireballs @ Jul 11 2014, 03:09 PM)
depend on the voltage, and depend its ac or dc
if dc would be >500kv
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HTC are mostly AC

QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 11 2014, 03:10 PM)
It's useless to based on a poll to decide on the danger of HTC.

In those old days, if you run a poll on whether the earth is round or flat. All the answers come back will be the earth is flat.

So when the poll results says the earth is flat, does it mean the earth is really flat ?
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did you even read the post? I'm telling you that HTC is harmless. The poll is just to gauge public's perception.


QUOTE(ronn77 @ Jul 11 2014, 03:10 PM)
I know someone working in TNB as an engineer. He told me the frequency of the high tension cable is only 50mhz and cause nothing to our health. The one that causing cells damage is the mobile phone which is more than 10x worst than anything you have in your house and still we are neglecting it and talking about high tension cables.
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exactly, there're much more harmful things around us everyday
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post Jul 11 2014, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 11 2014, 03:17 PM)
Bust myth also no use. Property with HTC will die.
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For investment maybe, but for those who are buying it for ownstay this might be helpful icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 11 2014, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jul 11 2014, 03:22 PM)
And you asking keyboard warriors here to give you the answer, expecting them to know better than experts..  thumbup.gif
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I expect the crowd here to be more matured since its not /k icon_rolleyes.gif
hopefully we can gain something constructive out of this
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post Jul 11 2014, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 11 2014, 03:26 PM)
I am saying the poll has no bearing to the truth.

However :-

If you are concerned about property price, then you should be concerned with the perception, not the truth.

If you are concerned about the truth, then you should ignore the poll.
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yup i agree,
but for people looking for a place to stay the truth is what they want.

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post Jul 11 2014, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 11 2014, 03:29 PM)
perseption is mother of all truth.. get it?  icon_idea.gif

(registered trademark of gogo2)
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agreed, which is the purpose of this post, to raise awareness
if everybody just live off "perception is mother of all truth" how are we to advance?
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post Jul 11 2014, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jul 11 2014, 03:30 PM)
wonder why you dont want to use the search function and look for the same thread, and read from there
from those previous thread, you will know what to "expect" as the outcome of the discussion..
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because nobody would read a huge wall of text in the middle of another thread right?
i need to keep the main points easily accessible at the first page
i expect uninformed people to gain awareness
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post Jul 12 2014, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(slickerooo @ Jul 11 2014, 05:28 PM)
Prospective buyer to your house you own may have negative perception abt HTC near to the house they may purchase if they believe in feng shui or frienda advice.. So if you want to buy for investment maybe its good to find a house elsewhere. If for own stay its up to your own feeling abt living near to HTC. Just my 2 cents.
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yup agreed, which is why more awareness is needed so that people know that the cables are not a threat

QUOTE(sekkee @ Jul 11 2014, 05:46 PM)
This picture is taken from my garden.
As you can see it is quite close - above 50 meters away.
I did a lot of research before I bought this house last year.
From the research I concluded that the risk is very minimal, if at all.
Because of this I paid about RM 500 psf. Other places - about 100m away from my property is going for more than RM 1k psf.
I stay at Ampang Hilir. You will not find such a price in Ampang Hilir.
No regrets.
For all you know the HTC could have been underground and you would have no idea.
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nice one! glad that you're willing to research first instead of believing rumours icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(tikaram @ Jul 11 2014, 10:31 PM)
Very good thread.
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thanks for supporting! icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Jul 12 2014, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(Kevin Chan @ Jul 11 2014, 10:40 PM)
I will wait for case of HTC touching ground and see how many die ...  doh.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 11 2014, 11:15 PM)
Nope. The cable drop on you and you touch the ground, you complete the circuit and die. Lol
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QUOTE(Sikit2JadiBukit @ Jul 11 2014, 11:43 PM)
i reckon that you're right, many proof in youtube.
aiyo even the small electric tiang or trees in front of your house can fall and kill you what..
these are freak accidents, not related to EMF radiations

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post Jul 12 2014, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(HeartRock_Cafe @ Jul 12 2014, 12:45 AM)
For own stay, alright if you can sleep over it.
For investment, not recommended because the perception drives the price.
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agreed

QUOTE(ibwo @ Jul 12 2014, 05:32 AM)
Google it and read reputable studies from gov agencies or universities.

Infants are affected in most of the reports that I had read previously and there was a recommendation of 500m distance, for safety precaution.

Emf is absorbed by earth when the cables are underground.
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mind posting your source?
did you know that you're absorbing emf from your household appliances everyday? and the dosage is much higher than high tension cables
those 500m guidelines are just very rough generalization, you'll need and emf meter at your site to accurately gauge the emf exposure, I've gotten readings as little as 30m
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post Oct 28 2016, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Oct 27 2016, 07:41 AM)
For those who keep talking htc is just fine, I wonder why.

It's like listening to morning radio and they keep mentioning Malaysia debt rating is grade A, and we're in a very good hand.
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erm.. because we do our research instead of listening blindly to what people say?
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post Nov 8 2016, 11:18 AM

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guys look, the science is out there, please see it for yourselves.
this is an EMF meter, this thing detects electromagnetic fields,
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i suggest you get one and start pointing it at HTC cables,
most of the time most houses will be out of the EMF range or it'll be very weak,
after you've done that, bring the meter home and start pointing it at your electronics in your home,
you'll be surprised by how much more emf you're exposed to at home rather than those HTC cables.

so dont even bother fighting if HTC EMF causes cancer since you'll be out of range anyway
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post Nov 8 2016, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(peri peri @ Nov 8 2016, 11:33 AM)
yeah, household items are the worst.

i once place my water plant next to my house router, guess what, the leaf looks like burn for those facing the wifi router.
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Well it just proves your unwillingness to debate a subject properly, go try it then come back and talk

QUOTE(heavensea @ Nov 8 2016, 02:08 PM)
Can we explain this to future buyers of our units?
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Of course you can

QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 8 2016, 02:36 PM)
https://youtu.be/0zGnfL_Cc7M

Fluorescent tubes under power lines

If you take a normal long fluorescent tube and hold it vertically under a high voltage power line after dark you will be able to see that it lights up of its own accord.
http://www.larkinweb.co.uk/miscellany/fluo...ower_lines.html

WARNING: DO NOT attempt this experiment in the rain.
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You'll receive maximum emf by standing directly under the cable, the emf meter will tell you that, which is what this video is trying to say. Try holding the tube from far away and see if it lights up?
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post Nov 9 2016, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(peri peri @ Nov 9 2016, 11:01 AM)
since when i want to debate anything here? i just sharing my finding about router wifi signal for my god sake you kiddo joker!!
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so you were actually serious about the burnt leaf?
if so i apologize laugh.gif



 

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