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Do you think that high tension cables are harmful to your health?
 
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OperaGhost
post Oct 28 2016, 08:31 PM

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Whatever the reports say. I'm sure most ppl will stay away given a choice.
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post Oct 28 2016, 08:32 PM

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i dont care whether it is true or not..i will spread the false so that i will get a cheaper house for me to buy..hahahaha
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QUOTE(scyter @ Oct 28 2016, 08:32 PM)
i dont care whether it is true or not..i will spread the false so that i will get a cheaper house for me to buy..hahahaha
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this!..i think whoever near emf will become stupid, son stupid and become retard..pls go away from htc..

so i can buy rm50k per house...hahahah..u guys choose to believe what u want to believe...

i just believe on the discount i could get. the discount money can be invested somewhere else.
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post Oct 28 2016, 09:07 PM

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Mana ada discount lebih oh? Htc units selling for the same price nia, since it's safe to stay mah.

Why ask for discount / give you discount?
You tak mau, you go away.
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post Oct 28 2016, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(OperaGhost @ Oct 28 2016, 08:31 PM)
Whatever the reports say. I'm sure most ppl will stay away given a choice.
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Yes bero, talk koker can tell whatever crap they want.
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QUOTE(scyter @ Oct 28 2016, 08:32 PM)
i dont care whether it is true or not..i will spread the false so that i will get a cheaper house for me to buy..hahahaha
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lol what a tactical minded like CIA.
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post Oct 28 2016, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Oct 28 2016, 09:07 PM)
Mana ada discount lebih oh? Htc units selling for the same price nia, since it's safe to stay mah.

Why ask for discount / give you discount?
You tak mau, you go away.
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those discount lebih can be saved for medical bills later la.. icon_rolleyes.gif
heavensea
post Oct 28 2016, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(MonGJiHyo @ Oct 28 2016, 09:13 PM)
those discount lebih can be saved for medical bills later la.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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contact agents to top up/renew a good medical rider with no annual and lifetime limit. Then the soul and body is ready to stay with htc or even bts.

Don't worry, many research has support it's completely safe to stay there. Just don't play layang-layang around there.
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post Oct 28 2016, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Oct 28 2016, 09:09 PM)
Yes bero, talk koker can tell whatever crap they want.
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It's just common sense. Ofcourse applies to only common ppl.
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post Oct 28 2016, 10:33 PM

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Cannot say no effect especially those huge pylons.

This post has been edited by aspartame: Oct 28 2016, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Oct 28 2016, 10:33 PM)
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Cannot say no effect especially those huge pylons.
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Large study links power lines to childhood cancer
By Gaia Vince

Children living near overhead power lines may have an increased risk of leukemia but the association may not be causal, UK researchers say.

The confusing message, which comes from the largest study to date – of over 29,000 children with cancer – is that since “there is no biological mechanism to explain the higher risk”, the results, “although statistically significant, may be due to chance”.

The study – a collaboration between the Childhood Cancer Research Group at the University of Oxford and National Grid owners, Transco – looked at cancer data in England and Wales between 1962 and 1995, for children aged up to 15 years old.

They were able to map how far each child lived from a high voltage overhead power line. Comparing the children who had cancer with a control group of 29,000 children without cancer but who lived in comparable districts, found that children whose birth address was within 200 metres of an overhead power line had a 70% increased risk of leukemia. Children living 200 to 600 m away from power lines had a 20% increased risk.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7460...ildhood-cancer/
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2005/ju...dicineandhealth
http://news.cancerconnect.com/children-liv...sk-of-leukemia/


This study aimed to investigate association of living near high voltage power lines with occurrence of childhood acute lymphoblastic leukemia (ALL). Through a case-control study 300 children aged 1-18 years with confirmed ALL were selected from all referral teaching centers for cancer. They interviewed for history of living near overhead high voltage power lines during at least past two years and compared with 300 controls which were individually matched for sex and approximate age. Logistic regression, chi square and paired t-tests were used for analysis when appropriate. The case group were living significantly closer to power lines (P<0.001). More than half of the cases were exposed to two or three types of power lines (P<0.02). Using logistic regression, odds ratio of 2.61 (95%CI: 1.73 to 3.94) calculated for less than 600 meters far from the nearest lines against more than 600 meters. This ratio estimated as 9.93 (95%CI: 3.47 to 28.5) for 123 KV, 10.78 (95%CI: 3.75 to 31) for 230 KV and 2.98 (95%CI: 0.93 to 9.54) for 400 KV lines. Odds of ALL decreased 0.61 for every 600 meters from the nearest power line. This study emphasizes that living close to high voltage power lines is a risk for ALL.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20843128

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Oct 29 2016, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(XP750 @ Jul 11 2014, 03:01 PM)
HIGH TENSION CABLES DO NOT HARM YOUR HEALTH
The purpose of this thread is to bust/discuss the myths/misconceptions regarding high tension cables.
Does this sound familiar? "aiya got high tension cable near your house, sure you'll get cancer" "I really like that house but didnt buy it because I dont wanna harm my family's health"

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Some General Knowledge First:

What are the harms associated with high tension cables?
-High tension cables carry Alternating-Current (AC), and due to the alternating nature of it generates a magnetic field that is constantly expanding and collapsing call Electromagnetic Field (EMF). Electromagnetic fields (EMFs) are a type of low-frequency electromagnetic radiation emitted from virtually everything electrical and electronic in our modern world — power lines, transformers, electrical panels, building wiring, computers, lights, clocks, appliances, televisions, hairdryers, cell phones, cordless phones, microwave ovens, Wi-Fi, wireless routers and other devices, TV/radio/cell towers, etc.
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The idea that living near high-voltage power lines is bad for your health has been around for many years. Illnesses attributed to power lines include childhood leukemias, other cancers, abnormal heart rhythms, miscarriages, low birth weight, birth defects, and other illnesses that might lead to premature death. Despite the conclusions of many studies that find no detectable risk, many people remain unconvinced about the safety of power lines, misconceptions passed on for generations.

Argument 1: Living close to high tension cables put you at a health risk.

- Over the last 20 years, multiple studies have been published reviewing the effect of high-power voltage lines on human health. Among the most recent was a study from England of more than 83,000 workers in the electricity industry. Researchers found no increase in brain cancer or overall death rate when compared to those who did not work around electromagnetic fields. Reports from major research centers in at least nine countries have come to similar conclusions:There is no compelling evidence of any health hazard from power lines. If power lines have any effect on human health, it is small.

Argument 2 : Even though there's no proof that high tension cables are harmful I would like to stay a safe distance from it.

- There're safe distance guide all over the internet, mostly just a generalized standard ranging from a few meters to a few kilometers. The best solution is to take an accurate measurement of the EMF at your house. This is where I come in, because of this same reason I've invested in an EMF meter. So now for the sake of our future generations I'll go to your place to take an EMF reading for free & during my free time. Based on the readings I've gathered from various sites I can say that most houses with high tension cables nearby, the EMF would've died off and WILL NOT reach your house. So even if you stay near high tension cables you would be getting most of the EMF radiation from your household appliances rather than the high tension cables.

With that I conclude this post, please do not hesitate to post constructive arguments. kthxbye

tldr : No proof that high tension cables are a health risk, even if there's a risk you won't be in range anyway.
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A lot of crap being written here, and Iceman finally provided some sources to show that the associated risks in leukemia and cancer on children with high tension cables are not "myths" as you have implied. (Iceman reminded me of the movie Top Gun where Iceman played sidekick to Maverick).

For those who may not want to believe on the risks with high tension cables and have no issues living with units close to these cables, it is their choice and it is fine. Apart from the increased risk with cancer and leukemia which are health-related, there is also another factor which is FENG SHUI related. It is almost the same as getting a property that is close to the oxidation pond or grave yard. Imagine when you come out from your house and you see the grave yard in front of you, or the oxidation pond which may stink a bit.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 29 2016, 12:28 AM)
Large study links power lines to childhood cancer
By Gaia Vince

Children living near overhead power lines may have an increased risk of leukemia but the association may not be causal, UK researchers say.

The confusing message, which comes from the largest study to date – of over 29,000 children with cancer – is that since “there is no biological mechanism to explain the higher risk”, the results, “although statistically significant, may be due to chance”.

The study – a collaboration between the Childhood Cancer Research Group at the University of Oxford and National Grid owners, Transco – looked at cancer data in England and Wales between 1962 and 1995, for children aged up to 15 years old.

They were able to map how far each child lived from a high voltage overhead power line. Comparing the children who had cancer with a control group of 29,000 children without cancer but who lived in comparable districts, found that children whose birth address was within 200 metres of an overhead power line had a 70% increased risk of leukemia. Children living 200 to 600 m away from power lines had a 20% increased risk.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7460...ildhood-cancer/
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2005/ju...dicineandhealth
http://news.cancerconnect.com/children-liv...sk-of-leukemia/ 
This study aimed to investigate association of living near high voltage power lines with occurrence of childhood acute lymphoblastic leukemia (ALL). Through a case-control study 300 children aged 1-18 years with confirmed ALL were selected from all referral teaching centers for cancer. They interviewed for history of living near overhead high voltage power lines during at least past two years and compared with 300 controls which were individually matched for sex and approximate age. Logistic regression, chi square and paired t-tests were used for analysis when appropriate. The case group were living significantly closer to power lines (P<0.001). More than half of the cases were exposed to two or three types of power lines (P<0.02). Using logistic regression, odds ratio of 2.61 (95%CI: 1.73 to 3.94) calculated for less than 600 meters far from the nearest lines against more than 600 meters. This ratio estimated as 9.93 (95%CI: 3.47 to 28.5) for 123 KV, 10.78 (95%CI: 3.75 to 31) for 230 KV and 2.98 (95%CI: 0.93 to 9.54) for 400 KV lines. Odds of ALL decreased 0.61 for every 600 meters from the nearest power line. This study emphasizes that living close to high voltage power lines is a risk for ALL.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20843128
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let's see what HTC fansi gonna say about this..

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post Oct 29 2016, 11:49 AM

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truthfully..all i am worried is just that the cable would fall off..hit somebody house, lightning strike due to high electrical charge over there..nothing more..so i would choose not to stay at that area
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post Oct 29 2016, 12:00 PM

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how about these?

What do expert organizations conclude about the cancer risk from EMFs?

In 2002, the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), a component of the World Health Organization, appointed an expert Working Group to review all available evidence on static and extremely low frequency electric and magnetic fields (12). The Working Group classified ELF-EMFs as “possibly carcinogenic to humans,” based on limited evidence from human studies in relation to childhood leukemia. Static electric and magnetic fields and extremely low frequency electric fields were determined “not classifiable as to their carcinogenicity to humans” (12).

In 2015, the European Commission Scientific Committee on Emerging and Newly Identified Health Risks reviewed electromagnetic fieldsExit Disclaimer in general, as well as cell phones in particular. It found that, overall, epidemiologic studies of extremely low frequency fields show an increased risk of childhood leukemia with estimated daily average exposures above 0.3 to 0.4 μT, although no mechanisms have been identified and there is no support from experimental studies that explains these findings. It also found that the epidemiologic studies on radiofrequency exposure do not show an increased risk of brain tumors or other cancers of the head and neck region, although the possibility of an association with acoustic neuroma remains open (56).

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Childhood leukaemia is a comparatively rare disease with a total annual number of new cases estimated to be 49,000 worldwide in 2000. Average magnetic field exposures above 0.3 μT in homes are rare: it is estimated that only between 1% and 4% of children live in such conditions. If the association between magnetic fields and childhood leukaemia is causal, the number of cases worldwide that might be attributable to magnetic field exposure is estimated to range from 100 to 2400 cases per year, based on values for the year 2000, representing 0.2 to 4.95% of the total incidence for that year. Thus, if ELF magnetic fields actually do increase the risk of the disease, when considered in a global context, the impact on public health of ELF EMF exposure would be limited.

A number of other adverse health effects have been studied for possible association with ELF magnetic field exposure. These include other childhood cancers, cancers in adults, depression, suicide, cardiovascular disorders, reproductive dysfunction, developmental disorders, immunological modifications, neurobehavioural effects and neurodegenerative disease. The WHO Task Group concluded that scientific evidence supporting an association between ELF magnetic field exposure and all of these health effects is much weaker than for childhood leukaemia. In some instances (i.e. for cardiovascular disease or breast cancer) the evidence suggests that these fields do not cause them.

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QUOTE(XP750 @ Jul 12 2014, 08:52 AM)

mind posting your source? 
Mind sharing with us your source (for everything you mentioned in Post #1)?

Someone has shared some useful finding above. Good read.


All in all, this is an age-old topic, and the result is always.... Perception 1 : 0 Truth.
Nobody can prove anything anyway.
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Whatever the argument on HTC,
Those who really didn't like HTC,
Will just like house "facing" a road...
Sometimes very hard to explain why ppl didn't like.
But just like our Malaysian culture...
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post Oct 29 2016, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(DS4 @ Oct 29 2016, 03:22 PM)
Whatever the argument on HTC,
Those who really didn't like HTC,
Will just like house "facing" a road...
Sometimes very hard to explain why ppl didn't like.
But just like our Malaysian culture...
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most htc units can't sell in reasonable price when ppl finally want to get rid of the unit.

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