I disagree, with the amount of mobs that has the ability to revive, I think it's extremely important to have team presence.

depends on both team's aspd setup, taking down opponent's cc in 1 turn can be vital, especially water sylph.

If you can take her down in 1 turn, your other 3 units can concentrate on killing another 1 thus that's 4v2 already. even if they res, you can still take her down immediately thus that's 2 turns of no damage on your monsters

but ultimately... it depends on both team's setup :S

unless its some archangel, if not the amount of hp after revived is insignificant, its only purpose is to waste opponent's turn. With a speed team, it doesn't really matters. almost everyone above the 1600-1700 possess a Rina or Sylph, so its basically a bunch of either tank of speed. Wind ninja has the ability to counter both, ability to kill rina? faster than sylph? of course there are downside if you're using ninja as a leader, you have to be picky on the element of opponent

This post has been edited by azaleon: Jul 15 2014, 09:26 AM

I get wad you mean. But look at this, you are slitting in somebody who has almost zero team presence, trying to kill someone who is pretty much the best team contributor in the line up. That alone goes to show how important team presence is.

Let’s not forget there might be a chance that you are unable to take him down in 1 turn as we wished. With the quality of runes on top meta one should not be surprised. Let’s assume we took one down in 1 turn, all it takes is an archangel, or a light garuda n wind yeti, or a water undine and rina (the list goes on…) to revive. Then, your wind ninja is pretty much fck-ed up. That CD is horrendous.

The reason I bring this to an argument is this. Usually skills are scaled to an attribute, and skills have what we call synergy among one another. But sadly to say, wind ninja has none. I’m not saying he is not strong, if he wasn’t the discussion and the effort to nerf him should be non existent. Hope can get more input^^

The thing is, as an attacker, you can choose who to attack and who to avoid, which is why i say it depends on team setup.

I can't speak for everyone but for me...
becoz I have shit luck.. I don't have any (ZERO/NONE/NOBODY/SAD/CRY/SHITLUCK) top tiered 4/5* monsters in my team, thus i need to build a few monsters to rotate when fighting different opponents.

I agree he may not be a team player but, another method to utilize him is to build a team that complements him instead (CC team or buff team).

Anyway.. I've got no luck with the game T.T

This post has been edited by siaopoi: Jul 15 2014, 09:48 AM

Budden dia sana tulis HP ><

Until they decide to modify him with ATT then its worth building a team revolving him??

On a sidenote my Gambir macam fail la>< Macam Kambing more.

English please T.T Orz

I get your point, let's not forget nothing is perfect and every summon has its downside, you gain something but lose something. Whether to use the ninja entirely depends on whether it can help your existing team, not to mention different player different play style, you focus on team synergy whereas i focus on offensive, its like either you die or i die


Edit: his atk is extremely high for a hp summon, thats one of his good point

This post has been edited by azaleon: Jul 15 2014, 09:54 AM

But if u wanna go deep into dungeons. Wind Nin FTW.

wind griffon equip + SPD or + spd % better ah?

commonly seen with swift (%) since his base spd is fast/

Both, since he's there only to buff lolx

true lol, once he buff, his is pretty much non-existent, felt like wasting a slot

like quite hard to get the spd % one leh, always got the + SPD one, hai~~~

Hiah spend another 120k mana for fire griffon, total 360k for in 12 hours for water epikon, fire grim reaper and fire griffon Dono happy or cry... Popkai liao

if you're talking about individual rune stat, there is no spd%, oni the fixed stat one on slot 2. Spd% is the set effect of swift runes

me ytd spent 2M mana le.....now me really super pokai==

How u farm 2m

120k for MS , why i cant saw any MS selling at my shop ..

its about level problem ?

or i need unlock more slot ?

orh...icic, no wonder, cus i can only get + SPD, till now farm still didnt get to see any + spd % one, lol