Hehe twincharger appreciate your insight
so here's my insight pulak

the 2 situations given by you i would say is extreme opoosite ends of scenarios
ure saying as if one is mutually exclusive of the other, which isnt really the case, theres a middle landing point somewhere in between

do agree that with expected population increase, u will get more traffic congestions
but do note that everywhere also highrises are coming in thick supplies man, so its not a problem limited to cbj
cheras? kota damansara? ara damansara? already crazy as it is yet more highrises on the way
tho mrt will somewhat offset this, taman bahaga and kj still jam like crazy even with lrt station there

point that ure missing is at least cbj is traffic good now, if worsen also wont be as bad as others
besides that, cyberjaya planning is controlled and u can easily forsee master developer improving roads when traffic increases
not to mention ALOT of greenery in cbj with a beautiful lakeside jog/walkway..incredibly hard to find such luxuries

u got many infor.....geng

if you look at cyber, junctions are using traffic lights, and also non traffic light junctions..
good traffic for now only but IF you are expecting cyberjaya to be a vibrant city (if), will it still be the same?
cyberjaya planning is good and in control? do you know that setia haruman started to sell all the plots of land to any developer after they realize their ICT plan for cyberjaya was not gonna feasible as their initial blueprint? Setia Haruman suppose to be the developer and master planner for cyberjaya.. when other more cost effective countries are cheaper than us interms of IT outsourcing and cyberjaya fail to attract more ICT company here, they decided to sell their land to developers and that is where you see all sorts of funny product and shoeboxes mushrooming in cyberjaya..

its use to have a good blue print on building heights and density.. but now what you see now is developer sucking profit as much as possible in cyberjaya..

I am here for more than 10 yrs.. but i only come here to work, and stay else where..

I have nothing against jam as its part of urbanization.. if you want amenities nearby, businessman also depending economy of scale to run business and setup if there is sufficient population.. most ppl also like to have amenities nearby and thus area will be crowded when amenities improve. population increasing is unavoidable..

maybe you are right cyber will hav good traffic, when most of the highrise completed but unoccupied..

This post has been edited by twincharger07: Jul 10 2014, 07:56 AM

I agree with bro twincharger07 some of his points - traffic jam in cyber is unavoidable in future especially when the city is vibrant with high population. But - have a second tot again which vibrant city is not having traffic issue? Even places like mt kiara someone mentioned that it takes him 10-15 mins in the morning just to come out from mt kiara area. Personally think that in next 5-8 years and amenities (entertainment, commercials) are within the township itself so even jam also won't be too long trap inside the traffic. In fact that is part of the reason I choose project next to hwy and main road to avoid any traffic lights where possible.

Since cyber is not that big, who knows they will build monorail connecting main spots within cyber to reduce the jam issue?

This post has been edited by Soros007: Jul 10 2014, 08:13 AM

good sharing. Ty

I could forsee in the near future, the low-mid cost highrise will be occupied by students and bangla;
Landed will be purely residential.

Cyber dont build low cost..

Mostly going towards shoebox n highend highrise..
Take a look at the list .. havent include those newly launch n soon to be launch

http://propcafe.net/cyberjaya-love-it-or-hate-it/

The Crescent and Cyberia Smarthomes are low cost to me; Cyberia Town Villa is low-mid cost to me.

Thanks for the website, really informative... let me digest first..

yes...anywhere for a fact...gng estate that is.
but this development is sort of no frill gng...with very average facade (kinda like 90's design), simple streetscape and non innovative garden. And the site is not the bestest in ciber.

Its by a non reputable developer and having higher (was told 50%) bumi quote....so effectively someone is subsidising the discount and I strongly believe its not going to be the developer or the master title holder.

ppl always claimed that cyberjaya is high class area with all those lxuury landed and condos, and sg long is more on mid end residential area..

but bear in mind that, cyberjaya luxuriousness is created by developer itself...more flippers than ownstayers...

too much oversupply..sg long take 10 years become a very mature residential area, started with affordable landed and condo, after that start to attract population, now whatever new launch in sg long is on >1 mil landed, and can sttratc real homestayers to buy, why? because that area mature oledy...

cyberjaya, still long way to go..go to visit it during night time...like ghost town...

Wah. Why ghost town also sales so expensive.

This post has been edited by tikaram: Jul 10 2014, 10:47 AM

No choice..many rich ghosts like there ma... what to do then?

actually i beg to differ.

4-5 years ago, MahSing's garden residences launched their so called superlink homes at 600-700k.
now ceria asking a tad more expensive than GR nia......

i see the prices in ciber has slowed down plenty....

Should have purchased 2 row of GR superlink 5 years ago

That very hard selling by so call rich ghost there.

It's true what...ppl complaining ghost town...expensive.... African town..... siber-far....no amenities...failure of IT theme township... not enough MNCs but look at the sales record.... it's still doing very well.
End of the day, if u think cyber is OK buy la else stay away only what...right?

If is is good than no need so hard selling like wat u did ma.

if ppl dont buy. Dont buy lo.

If ppl buy than buy lo.

why u need si beh hard selling?

for the first time I agree... jokers are absurd.. new project means high end and justify d price.. bad start for this project..

Wah banyak support.. berapa biji sudah beli?

It is very funny when you said it coz u have been selling Jade Hills and Pearl Avenue so hard while trying to "unsell" other projects which are the competitors to those. LOL