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post Aug 10 2014, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 10 2014, 12:02 AM)
Why choose to travel during peak hour?

You stay in a condo 15km away from city center maybe only early 15 minutes to reach office compare to those staying 30km away in DSL house.

The choice is yours.
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wah good taichi. like this we can totally forget about the fact SEH and EM is far and we can condone the price by staying there.

should give more views on the travel pattern, 4.50 sort of like peak hours? the houses in SEH & EM target taukeh to stay meh? target middle class and below... 4.50 leaving office...

that day TKJ only praise you, now you show partial truth, I still remember last year when SEH baru launch, moment i comment on the distance TKJ, you and that dude robert82, doom immediately start travel from SEH to Leisure mall on 10 am and screenshot the waze report for me.. telling how close is semenyih is to Leisure mall only..

you went on further to say 40 minutes time inclusive of parking into leisure mall , grab stuffs and travel back.. so enthusiastic, but the wrong side lehh..
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post Aug 10 2014, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 10 2014, 12:14 AM)
BBW, I tell you the facts, that's the time taken for me to travel. I show proofs.

By the way, please don't skip my question.

If there is a project near Berjaya Time Square, what's the travel time we should claim to reach KLCC from this project?

Should we say 50 minutes as this maybe the time taken for peak hour?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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around that maybe 40 minutes..on peak hours .. not hose 4.50 pm peaks hours..
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post Aug 10 2014, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 10 2014, 12:21 AM)
I never claim 450pm is peak hour, I only said after 5pm is almost reaching peak hour.

So for you my fren,

Sunway Velocity - 50 minutes to reach KLCC
EkoCheras - 1 hour 40 minutes to reach KLCC
TTDI Kajang - 1 hour 55 minutes to reach KLCC
Setia Ecohill - 2 hours to reach KLCC

So, do you agree with this?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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straight to the point.. looks like you trying to find fault mr professional more professional than TKJ...

facts: Semenyih is far... with peak hours it is worse.
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post Aug 10 2014, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 10 2014, 12:27 AM)
My friend, Semenyih is far, indeed, but far by 15 - 20 minutes..  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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see already knew it when you first post the question.. this compensate the price of subsales in SEH & EM..
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post Aug 10 2014, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Aug 10 2014, 12:36 AM)
BBW kor, What u mean?

Compensate the price of subsales in SEH & EM ?
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sorry ah, throw tantrum again.. means the distance is compensated by SEH & EM price which is lower than a decent condos in KL..
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post Aug 10 2014, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 10 2014, 12:41 AM)
Which area of KL BBW?

Can you tell me a very decent 600k condo (> 1000 sqf at least) in kl that you can travel less than 1 hour to reach KLCC during peak hour?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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yup there are:

Green teraine condo, 1368sq, freehold, less than 1 hour KL, 550k to 600k (nego)
PV20 Setapak condo, 1400sq, leasehold, price 560k to 600k , traffic condition dunno
Cheras Heights condo, 1400sq, leasehold, price 560k to 650k, less than 1 hour
Royal Regeant condo (Putramas 3), 600k above, less than 30 minutes to kl
Areas around north Kiara areas, less than 30 minutes, price 500k to 700k condo , more than 1000sq
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post Aug 10 2014, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 10 2014, 01:02 AM)
We are talking PEAK HOUR HERE!

yup there are:

Green teraine condo, 1368sq, freehold, less than 1 hour KL, 550k to 600k (nego) - near Alam Damai? Sunway Velocity also 50 minutes during peak hour, this one doable less than 1 hour?
PV20 Setapak condo, 1400sq, leasehold, price 560k to 600k , traffic condition dunno - dunno traffic time during peak hour no point to consider

Cheras Heights condo, 1400sq, leasehold, price 560k to 650k, less than 1 hour - near Alam Damai again?

Royal Regeant condo (Putramas 3), 600k above, less than 30 minutes to kl - near Segambut? Have done traffic checking during PEAK HOUR less than 30 minutes? As you say, 600k and above.

Areas around north Kiara areas, less than 30 minutes, price 500k to 700k condo , more than 1000sq - this one near Segambut already woh... Are you sure during PEAK HOUR will be less than 30 minutes? Any proof?
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you go and find to rebut... if all thes are more than 1 hours, then we can really forget about Semenyih.. try make more damage in these areas..
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post Aug 10 2014, 09:32 AM

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wow good , looks like ppl who bought EM has no negativ preception at all..

go on and define how far is far... at the end there will be reasonable far rather than your subjective far...

stop pursuading that it is not far.. try the traffic jams daily on peak hours before concluding for potential buyers.. 2 of my friends saw SP setia just wallop first.. not even know where is this Semenyih project, first time go, wallop 2 units..

many more are the same... these are just another heavily invested in EM hope to shed the same profit margin or more like Setia Alam... they staying in sEMENYIH? they say "Only waterfish will stay in Semenyih, we all just investing"
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QUOTE(tengster @ Aug 10 2014, 09:37 AM)
You should go advise them accordingly. Have they made adequate study or homework?

BBW... I am not sure why you insist coming casting doubts without much facts. We all recognize the distance. That is the trade off for a proper landed home.
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you a;l realize? where got see SP Setia wallop first.. buy first think later, there kind of thinking flies around a lot..

those who bought , anything new in Semenyih is updated.. so called added value of your investments.. blind also can see.. what hospital going to move to Semenyih and etc.. all just to shed hope on a failing investment..
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Aug 10 2014, 03:32 PM)
Seriously I think this BBW has several serious issues - very silo minded, couldn't accept the views from others, like to simply hentam without solid or convincing facts and at times simply put words in people's mouth.  Don't mean to be rude here but this is based on observations and experience. Don't you feel the same?
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if you ask all the EM buyers of course all will echo similar answer.. if you ask about negativity of EM and semenyih project sure none.. if got also surely compensated by sth.. to justify the sub sale price..

what i think the problem with investors is, there is only advantages in the projects they bought.. it is similar in every threads... cant be true right?
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Aug 10 2014, 03:40 PM)
Bro dun like this lah......BBW just want buy "The Best of the Best". Not every one is very rich......he just wan buy a BEST one.....I support him  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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a guys who stay Kajang travel 5 years to KL for work experience is lacking behind a dude who just invested in SEH.. how on earth..

take more on the Kajang folks experience, to KL for work.. then you will know.. how far is Semenyih.. and unjustified price upon sub sales..

there is no such thing to 40 minutes from UM to Semenyih during peak hours time, even it does happen in peak hours time, this is just another lucky day in traffic..this is rare

the possibility of one getting stuck in traffic jams during peak hours so high...

buyers dun forgot the property price today is a resultant of flippers profit margin/greediness with no basis.. bear that in mind... once you bought, the next 5 years price will surely at least stagnant or drop.. not to mention the depressing occupancy rates.. look at Setia Alam.. this is exactly the same.. thought the Setia alam mall works good? all tenants full? think again, those business does not even have enough ppl to service upon due to depressing occupancy.. ppl who went there are just 66cc only.
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Aug 10 2014, 02:41 PM)
I second your comment boss.

Far is always too subjective. Near to KL City is definitely good, prior to pay to more premium price. Far and very very far from KL City is not a big deal for most folks. Honestly, I prefer to buy or even stay in location which is medium or far away from KL City, though I regularly going KL City.

A lot of the property which is far away from KL City also performed very well, in terms of occupancy or price appreciation.

My Alam Impian landed, Spira the first ever phase in AI and also got ppl questioning me why buy such untested location but why not Kota Kemuning. Its about 30+ kms to KL City and if drive out at 8am, you need 1 hour and 30 min to reach nearby KLCC. BBW would claim it was terrifice far.

Sunway Suriamas, the lowest grade ever condo i ever enter upon subsale 1 year after VP. Its about 20-30km to KLCC area, maybe BBW would claim it is very far again. But to travel from guard house to KLCC just took me 30-40 min via NPE at 8am peak hour. My record best 20 min to reach Pavillion. The appreciation was very great until now and thanks to heavy loaded demand fr the students and the management did well to improve after many incidents. My vendor must be regretted to upgrade earlier bcz I earned few times more than him in the same period we hold.

The Zest, about 20-30km away to KLCC area. Is this consider far? For BBW could be deem so, since its more than 20kms. If to travel to KLCC at 8am, its about 1 hour and if via LDP to NPE to Smart, it took minimum 1 hour and 15 min. If u r lucky, it even took you almost 2 hours. BBW must condemn again this is freakinh sibeh far and macam Hulu Selangor. But, guess almost every bros here know how great Zest had appreciated since VP to now. Thanks god I still manage to hold this unit and last value checked recently  was RM 650k, approx RM 200k appreciated since VP in early 2012 or RM 380k appreciation since bought from Trinity in 2009.

What about Bdr Botanic township, Setia Alam township, Bdr Bukit Tinggi township and Bdr Bukit Raja township? It even terrible if based on range to KL City. Not everyone of the owner from these township would like the idea of 30-40kms to KL City but is that needed?

But how well this township did and its proven than the slamming keyboard works by bro BBW.

Yes, to repeat to slamming warrior, the above statistic is proven. Lets talk with fact and let the fact rules.
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that is a very good choice of word... near KL.. so subjective.. once you cross cheras border to KL also falls within your scope.. hard to tackle point..

and because 20km-30 km is being claimed to be so good, you insert a 100% or 150% profit margin on top of it.. and hope ppl will not see this and condone the distance based on the distance you mention above..

those era, properties are 300k plus, now EM is selling 600k above... try double it upon vp see whether going to have the same effect..even i ask you now you also wont dare to confirm..

a\but as usual, constant self bragging among investors may give some high feeling to do..such as school open, hospital open, coffin shop open, fishing open, all of a sudden everything which used to be far and unknown becomes trade marks/selling point of SEH.. claim credit like this..

just like a product, all these while the same product has certain ingredients within the product say like children milks, suddenly, one fine day the companies discovers the same product can also increase child memory when it is inherently existed in the product but was not known in the past, company goes on and promote that there is this new added formula in the milk (which was not discovered) and what is next , increase the price..

like wise, those things existed in Semenyih since god damm years, suddenly being claimed as new discoveries and subsequently upgrade their respective profit margins to another 10k or 20k..



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QUOTE(tengster @ Aug 10 2014, 04:21 PM)
Where were you when Setia Alam was started 10 years ago?
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straight to the point no need to beat around the bush.. what is the main factor to the property price hike today?
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QUOTE(tengster @ Aug 10 2014, 04:29 PM)
What are your doubts? Don't be circuitous...
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answer it.. for the sake potential EM buyers or SEH buyers to know...dun taichi here and there..words coming from DDD like me= no facts, no justifications, we need words like yours to hold water over here.. that also cannot do?
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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 10 2014, 05:25 PM)
BBW... not only you have stay in kajang for 5 years and travel to KL working. I have many friends staying in Semenyih but working in KL too, some of them already stay here more than 10 years. Why they can stay here for such a long time? Is because they know how to adapt to the condition. 

If there is so called a situation which you need 2.5 hours to reach Semenyih from KLCC, let say you depart 6pm but only reach home 8.30pm, why not stay at office until 8pm, or hanging around in KL city center for dinner, and back home after 8pm, most probably you will reach home at 845pm, no?
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did they purchase SEH or EM and mention so many benefit like yourgoodselves does or not.. go and ask Semenyih ppl who live there and work.. is SEH & EM that good as described by you? this is totally over the edge.. irregardless there are special preference like robert82, this all are not the common traits..

there is a meeting point between all there distance... the one most buyers are expecting.. investors is different.. see property SP setia buy first think later.. some forumers even better.. comparison to the properties bought at 300k and flip successfully at 500k.. applying across the board.. EM 600k plus so based on past experience... 1.2 million lor.. double up.. where is that Chris?
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QUOTE(treehill @ Aug 10 2014, 08:58 PM)
BBW very firm on his thinking. That I salute  notworthy.gif  but also need to respect the buyers too that are willing to stay in EM. Is far but is their decision la. Meaning they accepted they are staying FAR from KL. icon_rolleyes.gif
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you gotta chill man.. these are for the potential buyers to Judge.. not those staying in SEH and EM genuinely... those who are intended to stay.. I salute you who will be staying in Semenyih.. taking the trouble in the traffic everyday and extra expenses upto 600 per month for tolls and petrol..

my friend staying in Sunway semenyih only need to start before 600 am to reach kl at 730 if lucky..
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QUOTE(treehill @ Aug 10 2014, 08:31 PM)
Bro, sudahlah. He is in his own world. People wanna live outskirt or far from KL also cannot. Again, i stress again that is ppl choice and they know th distance and time to travel to KL if need to.

BBW, is ok that EM is far... Is ppl decision so please respect that. Again, I am not sided anyone or support EM. Just that I feel a buyer would do the evaluation themselves before buy a property. If ppl wanted to buy just for the sake of the developers, then that risk is for them to take.
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i never shoot down again ppl who stay in SEH& EM.. they bought their fair share of price there.. the potential buyers are those looking at the premium sub sales which incorporated 100% to 150% profit margin at least..
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QUOTE(treehill @ Aug 10 2014, 09:46 PM)
Bro, I am not making decision for anyone. What I am implying is for those who brought a unit in EM who willing to stay there. They accepted the distance and the travelling time. Again, I am not sided anyone and I am not asking ppl to buy EM and not recommending ppl to buy. So pls dont be mistaken. You have your thinking is fine and you wanna warn ppl that semenyih is far is fine but at the end is also not you to judge or decide for potential buyers.
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but i never attacked those who genuinely stay.. it was meant clearer to those flipping and painting like UM to Semenyih less than 40 minutes.. or like reach around KL.. you understand what i meant.. unless you are not a genuine owner.. surely there will be uturn somewhere.. like "what is wrong if i choose to sell also? if good price why not"
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QUOTE(treehill @ Aug 10 2014, 10:47 PM)
I stayed in cheras. I took bus to KL when I dont owned a car. If lucky can reach within 1 hour if not more than that. Took early bus before 7am. Distance to KL just around 15-17KM. When owned a small car, wanna skip jam so go office very early and no traffic encountered and no need to fight with others for a parking space. Go home, I know is tricky. Go back sharp got chance to reach home within 1 hour. Go back late around 7:30-8pm, can reach home in shorter time. Everyone got a choice and is about time management. Cheras is known for traffic jam and recently is getting worse but I accepted it. Ppl are still buying houses in cheras too. I dont see any issue at all with the distance or traffic. Can argue to say semenyih is much further away and take more time. No problem, manage your own time and learn to adapt if want to have a comfortable home.
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that means are you asking potential buyers to accept too the exorbitant price after this? you also wont the price you flipp yourself, how to persuade others to buy? and blame cement and Gst increae instead of flippers profit margin?
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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 10 2014, 11:10 PM)
This also another problem BBW. How we can predict the price of EM/SEH upon VP since it is still another 1 - 3 years down the road?

If the price after really goes exorbitant upon VP, do you think we can persuade others people to buy? Overall, as I mention before, nobody know how many are flippers  or investors or for own stay. Let it VP first, don't jump in to conclusion without any solid proofs mah...
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come on.. it cannot be lower than 408k and cannot be more than 900k.. this is not predict meh?

what are figures in between.. easy, what is the expected profit margin? really know nuts about it meh? then when you guys investing unless for own stay.. do not have any vision about the price afterward?

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