my friend is currently worried about taking long leave for a family reunion and vacation in europe for 2 weeks. can the superior of his account department reject his leave if he gives a valid reason?

he said the superior always never foresee staffs going on vacations and never have a plan when this happen. I been wondering if the superior who has a higher pay check than his subordinate, he should have some contingency plan and back up or else why is he in this higher position in the first place.

I just told my friend to apply and if reject then proceed with unpaid leave . They can't stop someone for taking leave for attending to family matters. Just want to know if the employee had commit any wrong in the company in terms of legality?

As the leave is going to be for 2 weeks, your friend should inform his superior early. There should be sufficient time given for planning a handover process for the temporary delegation of your friend's tasks

To be fairly honest, why not? If the company is currently understaffed/work performance not up to par/the person is handling most of the stuff in a major project and etc etc, an employer has the right not to give you the holiday that you requested.

I would agree with @klsmurf on the handling over part, if I am taking over a long leave, I used to take 2 weeks or more (too many days accumulated), I'd inform earlier as in a month or more so that they know about it.

Also, get a reliable person to cover for me when I am off. Let they know where the important docs are and stuff like that.

Still, if the company uses email a lot, ask you friend to get ready to reply to emails on-the-go as unexpected events might happen during the holidays.

do a proper planning there is no reason to reject the leave

Why should a superior who has a higher pay check have some contingency plan?

yes, you submit leave form for approval, not to notify
unpaid leave will still need approval too, what they need is people to work, not some tiny saving from the unpaid leave
it is a common mistake that peoples thought if i take unpaid leave, then it is okay

long leave should inform earlier and give appropriate time to plan and handover on hand/future job, if it is done properly i dont see any reason to reject it

Holiday is not "family matters."
Leave is entirely 100% up to management approval. The supervisor / manager can reject any leave application and doesn't even need to give excuse. You giving your friend this kind of advise is only going to get him/her in trouble

Can. My company sometimes cancel my leave after been approved 2 month ago.

This post has been edited by athrun300: Jul 9 2014, 12:24 PM

His taking his leave in November.

Thats what they call the hybrid leadership. You dont expect human to live forever, what if he is gone or die tomorrow. And after all, if he took such a long leave, it a blessing for the company to figure out what they got to do and also prepare in the worst case scenario just like germans and japan can rebuilt their city back after war or disaster. Dont you know anything abou this at atll??

Any leave is up to management. They can approve or reject. Taking unpaid leave due to rejection will only incur a bad performance review which will affect bonus or promotion. As long you're not the shareholder or director, better listen to the bosses. They hold your future. If don't agree, become your own boss.

Nope, he said it open up his perspective a bit.. He said if the manager cant prepare to lose him for 2 weeks, he expected the manager dont truly understand the word of Family and he wont expect his supervisor to value his work given and even makes effort to be part of the team.

Nope. Some of my friends got the leave so easily and they worked in some of the best companies.

MNC different ok. Not everyone can work there. Some have stick with Chinaman companies for years b4 moving up.

I guess ts friends is a well to do person. family vacation is an important matter??? as important as if there is a family funeral??? somehow vacation overseas lagikk, in europe??? i don't understand why is so important in family vacation unless tt ask his/her friend to tell what actually the real reason.

somehow, i feel vacation punya reason x berapa kuat. lainlah kalau family sakit ker, kematian ker, anything in the matters of life and death..mungkin boleh diconsider kan.

better kawan ts berhenti jer la. I mean since it doesn't matter kalau dia not working there.

This post has been edited by abdz: Jul 9 2014, 12:44 PM

okay! maybe i should b more specific. okay, it's a sdn bhd company. consider a big sdn bhd company with few millions of assets but never go into blue chip listing.

yes , a bit old skool he said.

how bout your company? will they allow you to go away for 2 weeks ? some MNC companies encourage staffs to go unpaid or even take leaves if they find the person is disruptive or not performing, a holiday is a way for them to eject and get back to the ground again.

Usually these long leave would be discussed with the approver and agreed upon in advance. In team setting this may be even during start of financial year, and in regular discussions throughout the year.

For account base jobs, logically you'd take leave based on your work cycle. Eg closing by 10th then 11-25 would be your two weeks off. Anything in between someone wold need to cover. Again, as per discussion with team.

You asked whether it is "OK" for you/your friend to just go ahead and take emergency leave if your superior doesn't approve it. The issue here is your superior is perfectly within his rights not to approve any leave application for any reason whatsoever. You/your friend insisting that "family holiday" is a valid reason to then say screw you supervisor I don't give a f*ck what you think is crazy talk.

Whether your friend's superior is capable or understanding or incompetent or an ******* is a separate discussion entirely.

1. MNC or big companies are the same in that context.

2. Superiors dont need contingency plans for these. It is your responsibility if you are taking a long leave to inform early so that the superior can plan ahead. And that is definitely not a blessing. (If you talking about this contingency plan, then did you ask your friend whether he had made a contingent plan of taking up some of his boss roles too in case his boss suddenly die the next day?) - Blessing for your friend too...

Anyway back to the topic, since now is July, he applying in November. Then just ask him to inform the superior and apply now. End of story.