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 Are you guys ready for hike in interest rate?, Interest rate rising in July & September

Are you guys ready?
 
Yes, my loan percentage is low compared to my earning. [ 124 ] ** [63.59%]
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post Jul 12 2014, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jul 12 2014, 04:41 PM)
My philosophy is like this. I dont worries property price higher, I dont worry installment is high. I ll just buy n tahan for few years to 10 years may be. Then, I believe I ll reap the benefits. Why? See below.

if I buy properties (few units) worth 2 millions combine. My installment per month could be 10k a month. I will rent them all out cheap even to collect half my installment amount also never mind. So, let's say I collect 5k in rental n my real installment is just 5k a month. With 10 years down the road, assuming I dont even increase the rental and it is still cheap, I can keep all the tenants for 10 years. U think the 5k u pay 10 years later is still too difficult for u? The money value will shrink n may be 5k in 10 years later is sap sap sui for u already. Plus the 2 million worth properties may become 4 million or more.

May be u your annual income already more than 200k++ n the cheapest property at that time, installment already start at 5k minimum.

I have regretted my life didnt pick up a house in SS15/2B many many years ago....now it increased almost 300% liao...because that time if I buy, I got to pay monthly installnent of 800 n u can imagine now....if paying about 800 is it too difficult compare to last time???
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Yup annual income of 200k plus means monthly more than 10k.. PEMANDU and EPF already projected growth by 2020 these groups of high salary workerd are still less than 10%.. salesman, ur criteria is different presuming you are not lying.. how to apply across the board.. last I heard you say one shot commisions can stop increase of blr of 0.5 for 30 years right.. high income earners..

your views if are true are based on your salary bracket.. that y you hold 10 years also a changed tone..
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post Jul 12 2014, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jul 12 2014, 04:54 PM)
beae bear...please be remembered. I dont have n will never have the power to spur the market nor to stir the market. This is just a forum to express opinions n I am not collecting fees from expressing opinion nor do I earn commission fron you or anybody if u buy or not buy.

I came from a poor family, I worked 4 jobs simultaneously while in college. I get to where I am today n having positive thoughts n mixed with the right (lots of rich n influential) people has help me build my wealth n confidence. I once are as timid as u all n have failed along in my life journey n I am lucky I can pick up from where I fell down. Investing in properties is not the way I getting rich but just a way to enhance my n preserve my wealth n using the people to help me build up more wealth. As I mentioned several times before, I buy not brcause I want to sell n flipped. I rent. I use others to help me pay my installment or subsidize my installment. In the end of the day, the properties is still mine. The worthiness of the properties may have double or triple. The bosses I met, they are way richer than me, they not using properties to make their wealth, but they using machineries, equipment, plants, factories etc....

there are more n more things in life that u have not encountered or seen before although u said u also know many datuks or tan sris....tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jul 12 2014, 04:41 PM)
My philosophy is like this. I dont worries property price higher, I dont worry installment is high. I ll just buy n tahan for few years to 10 years may be. Then, I believe I ll reap the benefits. Why? See below.

if I buy properties (few units) worth 2 millions combine. My installment per month could be 10k a month. I will rent them all out cheap even to collect half my installment amount also never mind. So, let's say I collect 5k in rental n my real installment is just 5k a month. With 10 years down the road, assuming I dont even increase the rental and it is still cheap, I can keep all the tenants for 10 years. U think the 5k u pay 10 years later is still too difficult for u? The money value will shrink n may be 5k in 10 years later is sap sap sui for u already. Plus the 2 million worth properties may become 4 million or more.

May be u your annual income already more than 200k++ n the cheapest property at that time, installment already start at 5k minimum.

I have regretted my life didnt pick up a house in SS15/2B many many years ago....now it increased almost 300% liao...because that time if I buy, I got to pay monthly installnent of 800 n u can imagine now....if paying about 800 is it too difficult compare to last time???
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I think the same too. I buy a house and ppl help me to pay half of my installment. But ppl are afraid that they don't have holding power or what if can't rent or lose their job. I'm just a small potato. At least start with Buying a house and able to rent the rooms out. Come a time u might even get back 100% installment and u get a free room rental for urself.
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QUOTE(justjerm @ Jul 12 2014, 04:01 PM)
Now even more blur, BLR increased, GST coming.. Should buy now or wait.. If property market softening, will people be willing to lower the sale price, especially in the subsale market.. E.g BU, Bangsar, DU or AD..
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the general prop market might facing the pressure, if u are looking for only just 1 of it, u no need to find the most expansive unit to buy because even same prop also have plenty of different asking price.
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jul 12 2014, 04:42 PM)
Banks will increase blr.. and squeeze property investors instead.. they are rich wat.. that y can owe property.. ppl cant affotd to buy that y choose fd..
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My fulltime job is a banker with a foreign bank....we are giving loans in hundred of millions but not into properties loan lar tongue.gif.

so, I also have some ideas how bankers do their job. Wait one day, got chance I bring u to Club 33 at Marina bay to have happy hours with the bankers from around the world. They gather there....life is easy for them n splashing money like water is a norm to them.
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jul 12 2014, 05:00 PM)
My fulltime job is a banker with a foreign bank....we are giving loans in hundred of millions but not into properties loan lar tongue.gif.

so, I also have some ideas how bankers do their job. Wait one day, got chance I bring u to Club 33 at Marina bay to have happy hours with the bankers from around the world. They gather there....life is easy for them n splashing money like water is a norm to them.
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Yaya big names... which is only 7% of the working class.. 7% trying to ask thecremaining 93% workees to buy and spend.. of course..

tan sri here.. there.. datuk here there.. but how many of them in population? Bbb says 70% rich.. 30 % poors and middle class..
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jul 12 2014, 04:56 PM)
Yup annual income of 200k plus means monthly more than 10k.. PEMANDU and EPF already projected growth  by 2020 these groups of high salary workerd are still less than 10%.. salesman, ur criteria is different presuming you are not lying.. how to apply across the board.. last I heard you say one shot commisions can stop increase of blr of 0.5 for 30 years right.. high income earners..

your views if are true are based on your salary bracket.. that y you hold 10 years also a changed tone..
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I got several jobs under my belt....work hard while u can. On weekends, while many of you might be enjoying shopping or watching movies or sleep at home, I driving around to search for good properties n at night still need to go out working entertain customers or friends or even people I dont know. Build your network n connection. Very soon, u can jump out from the fire holes n can go pick up properties like buying sayur. If I see a good one n affordable n got potential to rent out, I can straight write a check for booking n down payment...why wait? Think too much sometimes ll confuse u.



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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jul 12 2014, 05:06 PM)
Yaya big names... which is only 7% of the working class.. 7% trying to ask thecremaining 93% workees to buy and spend.. of course..

tan sri here.. there.. datuk here there.. but how many of them in population? Bbb says 70% rich.. 30 % poors and middle class..
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U know the 7% controls how many % of the economy??? U dobt think that 7% only buying 7% of the properties...laugh.gif
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QUOTE(hey_there @ Jul 12 2014, 04:57 PM)
I think the same too. I buy a house and ppl help me to pay half of my installment. But ppl are afraid that they don't have holding power or what if can't rent or lose their job. I'm just a small potato. At least start with Buying a house and able to rent the rooms out. Come a time u might even get back 100% installment and u get a free room rental for urself.
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Yup. That's the way....but not the only way lar...
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post Jul 12 2014, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(Mathew86 @ Jul 12 2014, 04:19 PM)
U also funny bro
U dint see he keep saying interest high and will keep increasing meh ?
U think he so stupid go mega sales now and buy property and let interest boom himself ?

Cooling period , everyone scare to buy
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i do belief he might able to purchase at low price and also in the same time interest rate at low rate, anything is possible. smile.gif
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QUOTE(hey_there @ Jul 12 2014, 04:57 PM)
I think the same too. I buy a house and ppl help me to pay half of my installment. But ppl are afraid that they don't have holding power or what if can't rent or lose their job. I'm just a small potato. At least start with Buying a house and able to rent the rooms out. Come a time u might even get back 100% installment and u get a free room rental for urself.
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Buy the house. If economy no good, lagi best. More people ll need to rent from u. More people renting, they help u pay off your house as u onlt pay a portion of the house price to own it eventually. If u got 10 houses, rent 9 out, afterall, u only need obe to live....after 20-30 years. U got 10 houses. But I guess if u can think like that, u ll not end up with 10 houses but more. Only God can tell how many...laugh.gif
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In about 10 years ago, normal house price is RM200k
But that time nett blr is 6 sth

Compared now, is 4 sth, so from calculation, property price last time not so cheap as we think
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jul 12 2014, 04:41 PM)
My philosophy is like this. I dont worries property price higher, I dont worry installment is high. I ll just buy n tahan for few years to 10 years may be. Then, I believe I ll reap the benefits. Why? See below.

if I buy properties (few units) worth 2 millions combine. My installment per month could be 10k a month. I will rent them all out cheap even to collect half my installment amount also never mind. So, let's say I collect 5k in rental n my real installment is just 5k a month. With 10 years down the road, assuming I dont even increase the rental and it is still cheap, I can keep all the tenants for 10 years. U think the 5k u pay 10 years later is still too difficult for u? The money value will shrink n may be 5k in 10 years later is sap sap sui for u already. Plus the 2 million worth properties may become 4 million or more.

May be u your annual income already more than 200k++ n the cheapest property at that time, installment already start at 5k minimum.

I have regretted my life didnt pick up a house in SS15/2B many many years ago....now it increased almost 300% liao...because that time if I buy, I got to pay monthly installnent of 800 n u can imagine now....if paying about 800 is it too difficult compare to last time???
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jul 12 2014, 05:11 PM)
Yup. That's the way....but not the only way lar...
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U have positive minded, big boss thinking.
Earn more, look for more job / find a way to make more money when commitment increase.


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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jul 12 2014, 12:39 PM)
only if people want to buy from you.. or can afford to buy look at PEMANDU and EPF data.. where got many rich ppl.. middle class a lot.. if they stop buying before this hike like now subsales like dead fish.. after 2 cycles of increase and GST.. they just cant buy.. you guys will be holding..

and between, you play rental games, how is yields after BLR increase? increasing rentals or swallow? those newer prop rental yields already depressing now add salt to water luu
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As I have always said, bearbear you will never ever buy property. Interest rate movement, bad news, government statistics (like Pemandu/EPF you read now), government measures etc will always happen in your life every year. If such small event like 0.25% will affect you, wait until you encounter bigger things. So bearbear, forget about buying property. Your way of interpretation of news will make you delay and delay your purchase. Small incident only, and your legs will shake

Remember last budget when Ah Jib announced the measures to curb property prices ? Such big impact ! 30% RPGT !! Foreigner RM1m !! No more DIBS/zero entry !! Sure property market affected right ? I was dead sure the property prices will come down as you are now with 0.25% interest rate increase. I was dead wrong after 1/2 a year tongue.gif

Again my advice to you. Remember you are buying a home for you and your wife. You are not buying a property for investment. You buy a house you and your wife like. Not buy a house at a price you like. Ask yourself, if your property later increase by RM300k will you sell ? If your property later decrease by RM300k will you sell also ?

Future is so uncertain. The price may go down, but at the same time, it may go up also. Nobody will know.
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early i think bear bear have few unit house. Hahaha

IMO if can purchase affordable house. Currently have survey few apartment. After VP the price already increase near RM400K. Remember just a small unit apartment.


QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jul 12 2014, 05:25 PM)
As I have always said, bearbear you will never ever buy property. Interest rate movement, bad news, government statistics (like Pemandu/EPF you read now), government measures etc will always happen in your life every year. If such small event like 0.25% will affect you, wait until you encounter bigger things. So bearbear, forget about buying property. Your way of interpretation of news will make you delay and delay your purchase. Small incident only, and your legs will shake

Remember last budget when Ah Jib announced the measures to curb property prices ? Such big impact ! 30% RPGT !! Foreigner RM1m !! No more DIBS/zero entry !! Sure property market affected right ? I was dead sure the property prices will come down as you are now with 0.25% interest rate increase. I was dead wrong after 1/2 a year  tongue.gif

Again my advice to you. Remember you are buying a home for you and your wife. You are not buying a property for investment. You buy a house you and your wife like. Not buy a house at a price you like. Ask yourself, if your property later increase by RM300k will you sell ? If your property later decrease by RM300k will you sell also ?

Future is so uncertain. The price may go down, but at the same time, it may go up also. Nobody will know.
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jul 12 2014, 05:25 PM)
As I have always said, bearbear you will never ever buy property. Interest rate movement, bad news, government statistics (like Pemandu/EPF you read now), government measures etc will always happen in your life every year. If such small event like 0.25% will affect you, wait until you encounter bigger things. So bearbear, forget about buying property. Your way of interpretation of news will make you delay and delay your purchase. Small incident only, and your legs will shake

Remember last budget when Ah Jib announced the measures to curb property prices ? Such big impact ! 30% RPGT !! Foreigner RM1m !! No more DIBS/zero entry !! Sure property market affected right ? I was dead sure the property prices will come down as you are now with 0.25% interest rate increase. I was dead wrong after 1/2 a year  tongue.gif

Again my advice to you. Remember you are buying a home for you and your wife. You are not buying a property for investment. You buy a house you and your wife like. Not buy a house at a price you like. Ask yourself, if your property later increase by RM300k will you sell ? If your property later decrease by RM300k will you sell also ?

Future is so uncertain. The price may go down, but at the same time, it may go up also. Nobody will know.
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jul 12 2014, 12:39 PM)

and between, you play rental games, how is yields after BLR increase? increasing rentals or swallow? those newer prop rental yields already depressing now add salt to water luu
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BLR increase those outstanding loan I have, sure have to pay more lah. As for rental, I will increase whenever I got the chance. I have increased rental last year even my cost never increase. So, when their tenancy agreement ends, if can, sure I will increase. Businessman mah. This hike is a good excuse to increase rent later. My tenants all will anticipate. If I don't increase their rent, they will thank me like a god

Rental game is another story all together. Buying the right property is very very important


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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jul 12 2014, 04:41 PM)
My philosophy is like this. I dont worries property price higher, I dont worry installment is high. I ll just buy n tahan for few years to 10 years may be. Then, I believe I ll reap the benefits. Why? See below.

if I buy properties (few units) worth 2 millions combine. My installment per month could be 10k a month. I will rent them all out cheap even to collect half my installment amount also never mind. So, let's say I collect 5k in rental n my real installment is just 5k a month. With 10 years down the road, assuming I dont even increase the rental and it is still cheap, I can keep all the tenants for 10 years. U think the 5k u pay 10 years later is still too difficult for u? The money value will shrink n may be 5k in 10 years later is sap sap sui for u already. Plus the 2 million worth properties may become 4 million or more.

May be u your annual income already more than 200k++ n the cheapest property at that time, installment already start at 5k minimum.

I have regretted my life didnt pick up a house in SS15/2B many many years ago....now it increased almost 300% liao...because that time if I buy, I got to pay monthly installnent of 800 n u can imagine now....if paying about 800 is it too difficult compare to last time???
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QUOTE(hey_there @ Jul 12 2014, 04:57 PM)
I think the same too. I buy a house and ppl help me to pay half of my installment. But ppl are afraid that they don't have holding power or what if can't rent or lose their job. I'm just a small potato. At least start with Buying a house and able to rent the rooms out. Come a time u might even get back 100% installment and u get a free room rental for urself.
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Investors seek for max profit based on their projection. The method above are not applicable to ordinary investors because they have time limit / resources limit to achieve their financial goal, that will add in uncertainty that might cause themselves stay out of the course, because they cannot factor in something like cocr 1000% that really happen over this few years. But if ahead of the financial plan, this method will be a conservative way to accumulate net worth that might giving them unexpected surprise in future.
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jul 12 2014, 05:31 PM)
BLR increase those outstanding loan I have, sure have to pay more lah. As for rental, I will increase whenever I got the chance. I have increased rental last year even my cost never increase. So, when their tenancy agreement ends, if can, sure I will increase. Businessman mah. This hike is a good excuse to increase rent later. My tenants all will anticipate. If I don't increase their rent, they will thank me like a god

Rental game is another story all together. Buying the right property is very very important
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location very important.. KL areas.. rental game for next 10 years.. so pls buy as much as you can.. drool.gif

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