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 Are you guys ready for hike in interest rate?, Interest rate rising in July & September

Are you guys ready?
 
Yes, my loan percentage is low compared to my earning. [ 124 ] ** [63.59%]
No. (Explain why no?) [ 71 ] ** [36.41%]
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post Jul 12 2014, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(justjerm @ Jul 12 2014, 04:01 PM)
Now even more blur, BLR increased, GST coming.. Should buy now or wait.. If property market softening, will people be willing to lower the sale price, especially in the subsale market.. E.g BU, Bangsar, DU or AD..
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The longer u wait, the harder to u to buy one in future. Dont expect people to sell u low. Imagine yourself in their shoes, will u sell lower later??? Why must sell lower?? If economy is bad n affecting them, will u think during that time, will u be affected also???if u r affected, will u still think of buying a property??? Or rather how to survive....
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post Jul 12 2014, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Jul 12 2014, 04:06 PM)
Will the 460k go down below 400k if situation same as 1997?? My spain boss bought house 1.5mil in spain on 2004 now only left 900k wor....Euro so worst??
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U dont compare spain n malaysia. It is different. Spain can win world cup while malaysia cant even get thru the qualiflying round.

If 1997 crisis repeats....there could be some cases as many financial trapped people may want to off load their house fast. But u must ready with cash to catch them. They can give u 400k provided cash buy. But in a crisis time, u dare to spend 400k to buy???

If u cant offer cash, they wont wait u to go look for loan as probably they have gone bankrupt or kill by ah loong while your lian is still in processing.

So, will u still think u ll benefit from the crisis? It ll do more harm to u than benefit.
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post Jul 12 2014, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Jul 12 2014, 04:08 PM)
Correct oso, got point!! smile.gif
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The longer u wait, the shorter the loan tenure u ll be left with hence monthly installment ll be more n hence the lesser amount of loan u ll able to get n hence the lower the house price u can choose from n hence the lower quality n location yoy can choose from n hence the more frustrating u ll get as your neighbourhood is also full of frustrating n poorer people in general n hence the social environment is not that good n hence the resale value us not there n therefore it is cheaper hoyse that u can get.
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post Jul 12 2014, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(beyond86 @ Jul 12 2014, 04:17 PM)
That true, chicken rice price wont drop to rm3 even crisis.
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When crisis come, oil price may shoot to the ceiling n u can imagine lar apa boleh murah lagi....
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post Jul 12 2014, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(Mathew86 @ Jul 12 2014, 04:19 PM)
U also funny bro
U dint see he keep saying interest high and will keep increasing meh ?
U think he so stupid go mega sales now and buy property and let interest boom himself ?

Cooling period , everyone scare to buy
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After cooling period, he ll miss the boat n left with a high price tag property to choose n with high interest rate n may be with less disposable income to live in.
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post Jul 12 2014, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(HuiChyr @ Jul 12 2014, 04:23 PM)
Competing rate bcoz there many new signees for loan ma.
Now already dwindling, they focus on EXISTING customers with loan to squeeze money from them.
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If bank wants to squeeze u. U cant run away except u dont borrow. If more people putting more in the bank n less borrowing, bank ll bleeds, u know?
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post Jul 12 2014, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(hey_there @ Jul 12 2014, 04:24 PM)
I strongly agree with this. In 2010, I went and see a new launch condo selling at 29xk. Didn't buy. vp increase to 360k. Now close to 400k. Where else can I buy a new condo at below 300k. Now new launch easily 4xxk. If I dun buy now, later min to buy a condo become 600k. Lagi cannot buy. Some advice me to buy 2xxk more than 10 year old subsale. Wah Lao... That time can buy new condo at 2xxk now, same price 10 year old condo.
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My philosophy is like this. I dont worries property price higher, I dont worry installment is high. I ll just buy n tahan for few years to 10 years may be. Then, I believe I ll reap the benefits. Why? See below.

if I buy properties (few units) worth 2 millions combine. My installment per month could be 10k a month. I will rent them all out cheap even to collect half my installment amount also never mind. So, let's say I collect 5k in rental n my real installment is just 5k a month. With 10 years down the road, assuming I dont even increase the rental and it is still cheap, I can keep all the tenants for 10 years. U think the 5k u pay 10 years later is still too difficult for u? The money value will shrink n may be 5k in 10 years later is sap sap sui for u already. Plus the 2 million worth properties may become 4 million or more.

May be u your annual income already more than 200k++ n the cheapest property at that time, installment already start at 5k minimum.

I have regretted my life didnt pick up a house in SS15/2B many many years ago....now it increased almost 300% liao...because that time if I buy, I got to pay monthly installnent of 800 n u can imagine now....if paying about 800 is it too difficult compare to last time???

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post Jul 12 2014, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jul 12 2014, 04:37 PM)
After cooling period there supplies will still be more and more to come..

Of course you dont want to sell lower.. no reason.. keep the property then.. coz long run no matter what happen propeety still increase maa..

as such blr increase.. gst increase all are irrelevant..  even commenting in forum oso irrelevant if property keep shooting up..

ya we see you very good advising ppl to buy now or regret later.. needless for what you want to spurr thr market.. this increase will be uncertain.. ppl definately look and see..

you have mention everyting under the sun like need of buying and etc.. but never highlight the element of excessive greed that resulted the price in such a way..

Price correction drop are from the asking price.. you made tis mistake b4.. the drop of price below what you purchase is crashed..
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beae bear...please be remembered. I dont have n will never have the power to spur the market nor to stir the market. This is just a forum to express opinions n I am not collecting fees from expressing opinion nor do I earn commission fron you or anybody if u buy or not buy.

I came from a poor family, I worked 4 jobs simultaneously while in college. I get to where I am today n having positive thoughts n mixed with the right (lots of rich n influential) people has help me build my wealth n confidence. I once are as timid as u all n have failed along in my life journey n I am lucky I can pick up from where I fell down. Investing in properties is not the way I getting rich but just a way to enhance my n preserve my wealth n using the people to help me build up more wealth. As I mentioned several times before, I buy not brcause I want to sell n flipped. I rent. I use others to help me pay my installment or subsidize my installment. In the end of the day, the properties is still mine. The worthiness of the properties may have double or triple. The bosses I met, they are way richer than me, they not using properties to make their wealth, but they using machineries, equipment, plants, factories etc....

there are more n more things in life that u have not encountered or seen before although u said u also know many datuks or tan sris....tongue.gif

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post Jul 12 2014, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jul 12 2014, 04:42 PM)
Banks will increase blr.. and squeeze property investors instead.. they are rich wat.. that y can owe property.. ppl cant affotd to buy that y choose fd..
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My fulltime job is a banker with a foreign bank....we are giving loans in hundred of millions but not into properties loan lar tongue.gif.

so, I also have some ideas how bankers do their job. Wait one day, got chance I bring u to Club 33 at Marina bay to have happy hours with the bankers from around the world. They gather there....life is easy for them n splashing money like water is a norm to them.
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post Jul 12 2014, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jul 12 2014, 04:56 PM)
Yup annual income of 200k plus means monthly more than 10k.. PEMANDU and EPF already projected growth  by 2020 these groups of high salary workerd are still less than 10%.. salesman, ur criteria is different presuming you are not lying.. how to apply across the board.. last I heard you say one shot commisions can stop increase of blr of 0.5 for 30 years right.. high income earners..

your views if are true are based on your salary bracket.. that y you hold 10 years also a changed tone..
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I got several jobs under my belt....work hard while u can. On weekends, while many of you might be enjoying shopping or watching movies or sleep at home, I driving around to search for good properties n at night still need to go out working entertain customers or friends or even people I dont know. Build your network n connection. Very soon, u can jump out from the fire holes n can go pick up properties like buying sayur. If I see a good one n affordable n got potential to rent out, I can straight write a check for booking n down payment...why wait? Think too much sometimes ll confuse u.



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post Jul 12 2014, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jul 12 2014, 05:06 PM)
Yaya big names... which is only 7% of the working class.. 7% trying to ask thecremaining 93% workees to buy and spend.. of course..

tan sri here.. there.. datuk here there.. but how many of them in population? Bbb says 70% rich.. 30 % poors and middle class..
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U know the 7% controls how many % of the economy??? U dobt think that 7% only buying 7% of the properties...laugh.gif
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post Jul 12 2014, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(hey_there @ Jul 12 2014, 04:57 PM)
I think the same too. I buy a house and ppl help me to pay half of my installment. But ppl are afraid that they don't have holding power or what if can't rent or lose their job. I'm just a small potato. At least start with Buying a house and able to rent the rooms out. Come a time u might even get back 100% installment and u get a free room rental for urself.
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Yup. That's the way....but not the only way lar...
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post Jul 12 2014, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(hey_there @ Jul 12 2014, 04:57 PM)
I think the same too. I buy a house and ppl help me to pay half of my installment. But ppl are afraid that they don't have holding power or what if can't rent or lose their job. I'm just a small potato. At least start with Buying a house and able to rent the rooms out. Come a time u might even get back 100% installment and u get a free room rental for urself.
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Buy the house. If economy no good, lagi best. More people ll need to rent from u. More people renting, they help u pay off your house as u onlt pay a portion of the house price to own it eventually. If u got 10 houses, rent 9 out, afterall, u only need obe to live....after 20-30 years. U got 10 houses. But I guess if u can think like that, u ll not end up with 10 houses but more. Only God can tell how many...laugh.gif
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post Jul 12 2014, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 12 2014, 05:41 PM)
Only if banks treating compliance like flippers to bank loan.
If syndicate bought at 15% discount i.e 391k, no one could stop them to offload at 490k.
Household debt in % of gdp in Malaysia is higher than pre crisis Spain and over supply is not small if compare with Spain . Hence, price drop worst than Spain couldn't be ruled out.
Only if you could find tenants. When property market is soft, rent won't be enough even to cover interest payment only.
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Why worry so much? Did u go out to see if there are any aeroplane flying in top of your house as there are possibilities that they may droo down n hit u.
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post Jul 12 2014, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jul 12 2014, 06:01 PM)
Owayls have to character attack rather than issue addressing.. you guys are here only to tell ppl BBB is good to go.. nth should stop it..it is illogical..

tell us how has the property market been ,not the next 6 months.. that is timing..how about past 6 months of 2014.. any poised to increase signs... any where market is recovering..
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I am not against u to not buying nor rushing into the market. I just sharing to u that do not wait for property market to crash. That's all. Where n when to buy or need to buy or not, that's none of my business nor do I care about it n I couldn't really able to care even if I wanted to.

Just telling u that waiting property market to crash is like waiting TVB miss hong kong flies to malaysia to find u n tell u I want to marry to u....tongue.gif.

even if there is a major price correction. Those properties are not your cup of tea...example...bukit beruntung.
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post Jul 12 2014, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jul 12 2014, 06:08 PM)
bearbear, I have seen his comment enough to tell he is a pessimist. Not character attack lah, Just like if someone call me an optimist, I won't say he do character attack on me tongue.gif

I think he hates me liao. And afraid to talk to me now. Because truth is always not nice to hear
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He is just a student...no???
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post Jul 12 2014, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(shaquenator @ Jul 12 2014, 10:04 PM)
in this world, or even in malaysia or KL, there's only 1 "U" ? why would ppl come to rent from you if your unit is high rental, location also not good, wall also worn out, area is full of foreigners...etc ?

come one, dont talk as if everything is just only "U"....there are thousands and thousands of options just in KL alone.
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Mr. Shaquenator,

This ll be my first reply to u n ll be the last one if you replying with a tone of condemnation n vengeance as if I have stepped on your tail or kill your family.

I have mentioned this is just sharing opinions if u know how to read properly n to take my opinion that seriously, I dont know what u scare of. Are u hoping the market to crash n if what I said here ll save the market n thus it ll defeat your hopes? If yes, dont be silly as if my words really can influence market, developers shall pay me instead of spending millions in advertisement.

I have not met anyone here in person yet except few forumers in other topics. They know I am not an property agent thus dont worry I am here to lure people buying properties.

If u r so poor that cant even buy a house, telling u to work harder is wrong, I dont know what to say anymore n probably that's the reason your stayed in the bottom 93%. If u r ugly, u still can go do plastic surgery to help, but if u r stupid, then, cant do anything anymore.

In your above replies, how can u think only can rent from me? How u know location is not good? How u know rental is high? How u know neighbour full of foreigners? How u know wall is worn out? Is this all come from your own imagination? If not, I guess u may have mistakenly replied to the wrong person. If yes, please say sorry n I ll accept it. Or u can follow the way dern do, u dont need to say so as u wish as this is cyber world. I dont gain anything too whether u said or not. But it just showing whether you ll admit wrong or not. Do u have the courage n courtesy to say so n by continue to reply whether to me or others, apparent or silent readers ll know how to judge.

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post Jul 12 2014, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(hey_there @ Jul 12 2014, 11:15 PM)
Yea but he is not an investor. Just buy for own stay. I was worried like others about prop crash and no holding power, force to sell etc.. But think of it, I'm buying one for own stay. Not for investment. Whether crash or no crash, I still have to fork out some money to pay either rental or installment. At least, I don't have to worry that my rental will increase or worse, owner wants to kick u out for own stay (happened to me b4). smile.gif
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Yeah....I know how u feel. I bought a semi d in 2011, all my relatives telling me not to buy as price ll dip soon but I went against all advise n now the house vp n price has appreciated 100k n some agents want me to sell but I choose to rent it out instead but with a not so high rental because I want to keep that house.

again in 2012, I picking up a shop lot from people who had problems with bank loan n same again, people around me said tge same shit again but I went straight to buy it. Now vp already n agents called me there are ready buyers to buy it at 200k more than my purchase price but I declined as I only going for rental game n now has rented it out too.

2013, when I bought another one at melaka, nobody said anything this time because I ll feck them wrong again...I am not going for quick gain...just accumulating assets...
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jul 12 2014, 11:52 PM)
tiger has been very good in predicting such as DDD expecting property price to drop below purchase price... no wonder tiger view property will never go to those price
many angry, furious, unsatisfied, unsettled, increased heartbeat, cannot sleep situations coming in.. we all got nothing to lose
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As I said, if u have any nice location with reasonable good price. Let me know. I may be keen. U can even earn some commission too.....this world is business...not to make enemies....if u can get me good kang tao....that's the best..
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QUOTE(hey_there @ Jul 13 2014, 12:10 AM)
Yes nobody force him to buy at the location now. He needs a house. Everybody needs a house. He bought it in 2011 at rm370k then no need to buy another one now at rm670k la.  If he didn't buy in 2011 at rm370k and he likes it and wanted to buy at that location now, he have to pay rm670k for it. It's as simple as that. Again, maybe no one force him. But if he needs a house and didn't buy in 2011 at rm370k, does he still need a house? Answer is yes. If he missed the boat in 2011 and can't afford the same property at rm670k in 2014, he'll probably have to settle with a condo at at rm370k now. So u tell me, is there a need whether he buys it in 2011 or 2014? Yes. and why not buy in 2011 when price is cheaper?
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