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post Jul 1 2014, 11:45 PM, updated 9y ago

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Okay, this one is one really unique device.
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Introducing, the BlackBerry Passport!

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lp16
post Jul 1 2014, 11:49 PM

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The phone looked squarish.... odd.
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post Jul 2 2014, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(lp16 @ Jul 2 2014, 12:49 AM)
The phone looked squarish.... odd.
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Wait till you see the keyboard in action. Jaw dropping!
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post Jul 2 2014, 12:51 AM

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Well, BB owned QWERT keyboard! No one can touch them.

Anyway, seriously considering getting a BB. Today, I got screwed by my S3. Phone went dead because of flat batt. Went back office to get it recharged. After a few min, turned the phone ON and ......ALL my contacts were lost! 2nd time. Now don't know how to restore my contacts.

Hate this stupid phone!
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post Jul 2 2014, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(lp16 @ Jul 2 2014, 01:51 AM)
Well, BB owned QWERT keyboard! No one can touch them.

Anyway, seriously considering getting a BB. Today, I got screwed by my S3. Phone went dead because of flat batt. Went back office to get it recharged. After a few min, turned the phone ON and ......ALL my contacts were lost! 2nd time. Now don't know how to restore my contacts.

Hate this stupid phone!
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I would recommend you to wait. The z3 LTE version is quite awesome. It should be worth if you are looking for a sub rm1000 phone. Really worth it. If you are willing to stick to proven, tried and true BlackBerry then the q20 would arrive I think in November.

The passport will arrive in September, but it's really worth trying out first. Even as a pro BlackBerry guy I would recommend you to wait and see at these new devices first.
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post Jul 2 2014, 01:26 AM

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Wow!, You really sounded positive about the phone! I'm planning to get the ageing Z30 but maybe like what you said, let's wait and see.
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post Jul 2 2014, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(lp16 @ Jul 2 2014, 02:26 AM)
Wow!, You really sounded positive about the phone! I'm planning to get the ageing Z30 but maybe like what you said, let's wait and see.
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The current Z3 is supposedly "worse" or "low end" to the Z10. The 3G version.

But Z3 3G > Z10 3G. I'm not joking.

this is with a supposedly "inferior" processor, and a .5GB lesser RAM.

The newer Z3 + LTE will have upgraded processor (faster speed), 2GB of RAM, and 8mp camera (as opposed to the current 5mp camera). It would be "in between of Z10 and Z30". A cheaper Z30 to be exact.

and its below RM1000. For a communication device, you can't beat that price with that specs. I'm sure it would be below RM1000, just not sure how low. maybe RM800.

Sure, it wouldn't be 'amazing' compared to a Xiaomi Mi3, or some Oppo devices, but against most other phones, you can't beat communication, the connectivity, and the battery life.

I mean, when has a smartphone really behaved like a phone these days? That serves the primary functions as to communicate first, then help to organize things, then help to make work easier, then only entertainment, and still be below RM1000? (for a supposedly low end that's a lot more better than competition's "low end")

The high end Passport, you'll either love it or hate it. But if anything goes, there's always the Q20. The tried, tested and proven formula of a workhorse, in a Bold form and function.
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post Jul 2 2014, 01:49 AM

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Z3 LTE at RM800 (if that's the price), no second thoughts!

Hope it's true. I just feel like throwing my S3 into a trash bin now!
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post Jul 2 2014, 10:20 AM

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With a smaller RAM, will Z3 experience lags when running apps? My main worry coz nowadays, smartphones are apps intensive. Just hope it won't be laggy like my S3.
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post Jul 2 2014, 10:46 AM

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Wow! Not bad design. Just read about at Businessinsider.com
I still love BB keyboard.But my main question is that their still apps "up to date"?


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post Jul 2 2014, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(lp16 @ Jul 2 2014, 11:20 AM)
With a smaller RAM, will Z3 experience lags when running apps? My main worry coz nowadays, smartphones are apps intensive. Just hope it won't be laggy like my S3.
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The short answer: no lag.

Long answer: Unlike other phones or the older operating system, BlackBerry adopts a system of run now, wake on notify system.

Basically, in the Z3, you can have 4 simultaneous things OPEN, and running. Unlike the Z10. As in 4 active frames. In 10.3 this limit is increased to 8.

Additionally, the coding system is in such a way that when you close it, only the headless portion is running (notifications, but not the program per se). When a system slows down (which is possible), the OS will determine what apps to kill by its own. When I say kill, as in real process kill, and it will never be awaken, unlike Android where some process can be killed, and some can't), but you can always restart them, or force "run" (pin to active frames)

In Android, some apps are notorious for running behind the scenes despite not open, such as FaceBook. Some apps cannot be killed (google Apps that continuously mine and log your data about you), and some refuse to die (like FaceBook, you just kill it and it will re-appear, despite already process killed) .

In BlackBerry, it is very difficult to achieve this effect. Once its killed, it can only be revived when there is a trigger such as time, notification, or place (geofencing), or when user triggers the app. This feature is expanded in 10.3

QUOTE(Joeyskullz @ Jul 2 2014, 11:46 AM)
Wow! Not bad design. Just read about at Businessinsider.com
I still love BB keyboard.But my main question is that their still apps "up to date"?
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It will be, because BlackBerry can run Android apps just as fine. In fact the APKs will be gotten from Amazon Store, so its up to date with the ones from Amazon Store. It won't be usable with Google Play services, but it will and can have the most up to date version when people update from Amazon App Store.

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Jul 2 2014, 02:37 PM)
The short answer: no lag.

Long answer: Unlike other phones or the older operating system, BlackBerry adopts a system of run now, wake on notify system.

Basically, in the Z3, you can have 4 simultaneous things OPEN, and running. Unlike the Z10. As in 4 active frames. In 10.3 this limit is increased to 8.

Additionally, the coding system is in such a way that when you close it, only the headless portion is running (notifications, but not the program per se). When a system slows down (which is possible), the OS will determine what apps to kill by its own. When I say kill, as in real process kill, and it will never be awaken, unlike Android where some process can be killed, and some can't), but you can always restart them, or force "run" (pin to active frames)

In Android, some apps are notorious for running behind the scenes despite not open, such as FaceBook. Some apps cannot be killed (google Apps that continuously mine and log your data about you), and some refuse to die (like FaceBook, you just kill it and it will re-appear, despite already process killed) .

In BlackBerry, it is very difficult to achieve this effect. Once its killed, it can only be revived when there is a trigger such as time, notification, or place (geofencing), or when user triggers the app. This feature is expanded in 10.3
It will be, because BlackBerry can run Android apps just as fine. In fact the APKs will be gotten from Amazon Store, so its up to date with the ones from Amazon Store. It won't be usable with Google Play services, but it will and can have the most up to date version when people update from Amazon App Store.
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Bro, you really know BB! rclxms.gif

You make me wanna get a BB even more; although many friends are laughing at me for wanting to go back to BB. Kept reminding me about my 9700.... cry.gif

Will BB's experience running apk files be any worst than a Android?
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post Jul 2 2014, 04:26 PM

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I will get this BB passport ! because it look unique from the design ! like previous years those nokia, sony ericsson flip flap and brick 9300 model... those kind of unique feel cant find it now. now all the phone model almost the same design...
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post Jul 2 2014, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(lp16 @ Jul 2 2014, 03:47 PM)
Bro, you really know BB! rclxms.gif

You make me wanna get a BB even more; although many friends are laughing at me for wanting to go back to BB. Kept reminding me about my 9700....  cry.gif

Will BB's experience running apk files be any worst than a Android?
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I dare say better Android than Android.

(if you play apps like Clash of Clans that uses Google services, matai lah)
(but if you use apps downloaded from Amazon Store... /GG Its a better Android than Android.

if you're a user that emphasizes on communication, BlackBerry is definitely the best choice out there.

Like I said, APK files from Amazon will come only after 10.3 (for Q20 and Passport) and 10.3.1 for Z10, Z3,Z30,Q10,Q5

QUOTE(terryfoo @ Jul 2 2014, 05:26 PM)
I will get this BB passport ! because it look unique from the design ! like previous years those nokia, sony ericsson flip flap and brick 9300 model... those kind of unique feel cant find it now. now all the phone model almost the same design...
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Heh, wait till you see the keyboard.
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post Jul 2 2014, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Jul 2 2014, 06:54 PM)
I dare say better Android than Android.

(if you play apps like Clash of Clans that uses Google services, matai lah)
(but if you use apps downloaded from Amazon Store... /GG Its a better Android than Android.

if you're a user that emphasizes on communication, BlackBerry is definitely the best choice out there.

Like I said, APK files from Amazon will come only after 10.3 (for Q20 and Passport) and 10.3.1 for Z10, Z3,Z30,Q10,Q5
Heh, wait till you see the keyboard.
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haha not sure about passport comfort for typing or not, but my previous BB 9700 its awesome ! best keyboard compare with those nokia or any other brand !
when it will land in malaysia ?
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post Jul 2 2014, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(terryfoo @ Jul 2 2014, 11:07 PM)
haha not sure about passport comfort for typing or not, but my previous BB 9700 its awesome ! best keyboard compare with those nokia or any other brand !
when it will land in malaysia ?
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I'll say right before Christmas, or after CNY, since the device launches in November.
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post Jul 2 2014, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Jul 2 2014, 10:28 PM)
I'll say right before Christmas, or after CNY, since the device launches in November.
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still long away..... sad.gif and i dont think the BBM is useful like last time
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post Jul 3 2014, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(terryfoo @ Jul 3 2014, 12:55 AM)
still long away.....  sad.gif  and i dont think the BBM is useful like last time
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Oh BBM is very useful, especially in group chats, and the mass chats. Privacy ada biggrin.gif
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post Jul 3 2014, 10:44 AM

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In terms of typing, no phone that I've used so far come close to my 9700. That's a fact. Only thing is keeps on lagging. That's why I changed to Samsung. At that time, Samsung was the 'IN' phone while BB is..... well, how to put it.... a laughing stock.

BTW, BB world for my old 9700 can't be used anymore? Try updating some apps in 9700 but can't!
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post Jul 3 2014, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Jul 3 2014, 12:43 AM)
Oh BBM is very useful, especially in group chats, and the mass chats. Privacy ada biggrin.gif
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what i mean is.... all my friend around me change to andriod... so if I use BBM...i think nobody chat with me in BBM

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