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post Jun 22 2014, 11:05 PM, updated 12y ago

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Greetings!
I'm currently having a basic DSLR set,

- Nikon D7000 ( whole set including lens )
- Nissin Di622
-AF NIKKOR 50mm f/1.8D


and I was thinking whether should I sell it off and get an extremely good compact camera?
My DSLR has been collecting a lot of dust unfortunately due to the fact that I'm just too darn busy nowadays
And whenever I'm heading out, I'll be too lazy to bring out my DLSR due to the fact that it's heavy and bulky

What I'm seeking for is a Digital Compact Camera that has built in WiFi in it so that I can straight away send my photos to my iPhone and upload it on social networking websites
Also, a camera that is small and light, not forgetting good recording audio quality

I'm more to an outgoing person. What do you guys think?

My budget would be around RM2000+-
Depends on how much I can sell off what I'm having right now sweat.gif

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post Jun 22 2014, 11:14 PM

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Sell your DSLR & Get this...

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post Jun 22 2014, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(IccyAsd @ Jun 22 2014, 11:14 PM)
I'd get that if I never had a phone :/ Looks amazing though

This is pretty wicked too!
http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-gala...le-Phone_review
Saw it in Singapore. Damn.
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 22 2014, 11:05 PM)
Greetings!
I'm currently having a basic DSLR set,

- Nikon D7000 ( whole set including lens )
- Nissin Di622
-AF NIKKOR 50mm f/1.8D
and I was thinking whether should I sell it off and get an extremely good compact camera?
My DSLR has been collecting a lot of dust unfortunately due to the fact that I'm just too darn busy nowadays
And whenever I'm heading out, I'll be too lazy to bring out my DLSR due to the fact that it's heavy and bulky

What I'm seeking for is a Digital Compact Camera that has built in WiFi in it so that I can straight away send my photos to my iPhone and upload it on social networking websites
Also, a camera that is small and light, not forgetting good recording audio quality

I'm more to an outgoing person. What do you guys think?
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I can totally understand your feeling. there are a lot of good compacts on sale nowadays.

For smaller zoom and size, you can go for Sony RX100 (I, II or even III) or the Canon g1x ii, these 2 are the top players in premium compact field.

For bigger zoom, there's sony RX10 and panasonic FZ1000, these 2 shares a lot of similarity and have really long zoom (8.3x and 16x) but size wise close to entry level dslr.
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post Jun 22 2014, 11:22 PM

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Look at Sony RX100. mk3 just out
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post Jun 22 2014, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(krayden @ Jun 22 2014, 11:22 PM)
Look at Sony RX100. mk3 just out
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Isit WiFi? Just wanna double check
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post Jun 22 2014, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 22 2014, 11:05 PM)
Greetings!
I'm currently having a basic DSLR set,

- Nikon D7000 ( whole set including lens )
- Nissin Di622
-AF NIKKOR 50mm f/1.8D
and I was thinking whether should I sell it off and get an extremely good compact camera?
My DSLR has been collecting a lot of dust unfortunately due to the fact that I'm just too darn busy nowadays
And whenever I'm heading out, I'll be too lazy to bring out my DLSR due to the fact that it's heavy and bulky

What I'm seeking for is a Digital Compact Camera that has built in WiFi in it so that I can straight away send my photos to my iPhone and upload it on social networking websites
Also, a camera that is small and light, not forgetting good recording audio quality

I'm more to an outgoing person. What do you guys think?
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I think you already answered your question lol. You might wanna try to take a look at mirrorless camera's but then you must tell yourself you're gonna loose all those bullets for something small. whistling.gif Unless you're really keen on selling off your entire DSLR and its equipments for a digi cam.
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post Jun 22 2014, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Jun 22 2014, 11:21 PM)
I can totally understand your feeling. there are a lot of good compacts on sale nowadays.

For smaller zoom and size, you can go for Sony RX100 (I, II or even III) or the Canon g1x ii, these 2 are the top players in premium compact field.

For bigger zoom, there's sony RX10 and panasonic FZ1000, these 2 shares a lot of similarity and have really long zoom (8.3x and 16x) but size wise close to entry level dslr.
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The canon looks tempting! Thanks for the recommendation though but its pretty big
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 22 2014, 11:26 PM)
Isit WiFi? Just wanna double check
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Yes, since mk2.
Dun expect dslr quality but will be very acceptable AND pocketable.
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QUOTE(sp6068 @ Jun 22 2014, 11:26 PM)
I think you already answered your question lol. You might wanna try to take a look at mirrorless camera's but then you must tell yourself you're gonna loose all those bullets for something small.  whistling.gif  Unless you're really keen on selling off your entire DSLR and its equipments for a digi cam.
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I was thinking of a compact digital camera. Or would it be better if i get a mirrorless instead although its bigger? I wouldnt want my pictures to end up iphone-quality like the background is bright but the object is dark doh.gif
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QUOTE(krayden @ Jun 22 2014, 11:28 PM)
Yes, since mk2.
Dun expect dslr quality but will be very acceptable AND pocketable.
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 22 2014, 11:29 PM)
I was thinking of a compact digital camera. Or would it be better if i get a mirrorless instead although its bigger? I wouldnt want my pictures to end up iphone-quality like the background is bright but the object is dark  doh.gif
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Depending on which mirrorless camera, their sensor is way more advance than mobile phone sensors (and yes that incl Nokia's Pureview sensors). You can try to go Sony centre to test out their mirrorless camera's. I've personally one of their camera's (can't recall the model unfortunately). Other brands you can check out Panasonic's Lumix series too.

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QUOTE(sp6068 @ Jun 22 2014, 11:36 PM)
Depending on which mirrorless camera, their sensor is way more advance than mobile phone sensors (and yes that incl Nokia's Pureview sensors). You can try to go Sony centre to test out their mirrorless camera's. I've personally one of their camera's (can't recall the model unfortunately). Other brands you can check out Panasonic's Lumix series too.
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Will consider, it would be great if I can find one which fits into my pocket haha, thanks though!
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 22 2014, 11:29 PM)
I was thinking of a compact digital camera. Or would it be better if i get a mirrorless instead although its bigger? I wouldnt want my pictures to end up iphone-quality like the background is bright but the object is dark  doh.gif
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From my experience, a Fujifilm XM-1 coupled with a tiny XF27mm lens is perfect for light travel without compromising image quality smile.gif
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QUOTE(Pacmangoku @ Jun 22 2014, 11:50 PM)
From my experience, a Fujifilm XM-1 coupled with a tiny XF27mm lens is perfect for light travel without compromising image quality smile.gif
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Hmm looks good though, any idea how much did it roughly cost you?
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QUOTE(Pacmangoku @ Jun 22 2014, 11:50 PM)
From my experience, a Fujifilm XM-1 coupled with a tiny XF27mm lens is perfect for light travel without compromising image quality smile.gif
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btw your flickr, are all those taken with the XM-1?
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post Jun 23 2014, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 22 2014, 11:59 PM)
btw your flickr, are all those taken with the XM-1?
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are taken with the Fuji X20, more recent ones are by the Fuji XE-2. Getting a new XM1 with a twin lens might cost less than 1.8k. I have used the XM1, the sensor and image quality are more than decent. If you don't mind giving up the optical viewfinder, I think a mirrorless gives the best bang for yur buck smile.gif

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QUOTE(Pacmangoku @ Jun 23 2014, 12:38 AM)
Most of the photos are
are taken with the Fuji X20, more recent ones are by the Fuji XE-2. Getting a new XM1 with a twin lens might cost less than 1.8k. I have used the XM1, the sensor and image quality are more than decent. If you don't mind giving up the optical viewfinder, I think a mirrorless gives the best bang for yur buck smile.gif
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Looking at your gear of having basic lenses you're not going to miss much ditching the DSLR gear for a premium compact. The only thing you're going to miss is the 50mm f1.8.

If you like external flash you can get a Canon G1x mk2 with a Canon 270ex w diffuser. At events the picture quality will be impossible to tell the difference between that and a DSLR w flash. Slightly pricey altogether but its a killer combo.

Pocketable will be the Sony RX100. Its is the hot selling travel camera. But if you're patient a lot of new cameras from other brands like Panasonic, Canon etc. are soon coming with their 1" sensor compact cameras. And those new models might even come with 4k video.

Mirrorless camera might not be for you unless you love bringing a range of lenses out or can't live without prime lenses.
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QUOTE(Rice_Owl84 @ Jun 23 2014, 10:46 AM)
Looking at your gear of having basic lenses you're not going to miss much ditching the DSLR gear for a premium compact.  The only thing you're going to miss is the 50mm f1.8. 

If you like external flash you can get a Canon G1x mk2 with a Canon 270ex w diffuser.  At events the picture quality will be impossible to tell the difference between that and a DSLR w flash.  Slightly pricey altogether but its a killer combo. 

Pocketable will be the Sony RX100.  Its is the hot selling travel camera.  But if you're patient a lot of new cameras from other brands like Panasonic, Canon etc. are soon coming with their 1" sensor compact cameras.  And those new models might even come with 4k video. 

Mirrorless camera might not be for you unless you love bringing a range of lenses out or can't live without prime lenses.
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Hmm, will do some research about it, thanks!
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I did the same, sold my M43 n get a rx100 m2 soon......

Most of the time, dam lazy to bring out lenses…

Maybe will aim a used dslr later, if i wan to play around....
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I'm moving from a semi pro DSLR, Canon 60D to a mirrorless camera too! smile.gif It's the Sony A6000! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(kennypotatoes @ Jun 23 2014, 11:01 PM)
I did the same, sold my M43 n get a rx100 m2 soon......

Most of the time, dam lazy to bring out lenses…

Maybe will aim a used dslr later, if i wan to play around....
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planning to sell of my D7000 heh
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jun 23 2014, 11:21 PM)
I'm moving from a semi pro DSLR, Canon 60D to a mirrorless camera too! smile.gif It's the Sony A6000! rclxms.gif
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thats what im planning to do!!! im looking into the A6000 too!

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jun 23 2014, 11:21 PM)
I'm moving from a semi pro DSLR, Canon 60D to a mirrorless camera too! smile.gif It's the Sony A6000! rclxms.gif
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What lens ur going with the a6000?
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 23 2014, 11:58 PM)
thats what im planning to do!!! im looking into the A6000 too!
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A6000 is very very nice...... was stand there at The Curve sony store.... play with it.......
Uuush.... so tempting....

but, i know i lazy to bring bulky stuff.... so stick with my plan for a higher range compact digi cam.
LoL.....
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 24 2014, 10:45 AM)
What lens ur going with the a6000?
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the standard one i guess, might consider getting the pancake lens next year thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(kennypotatoes @ Jun 24 2014, 10:46 AM)
A6000 is very very nice...... was stand there at The Curve sony store.... play with it.......
Uuush.... so tempting....

but, i know i lazy to bring bulky stuff.... so stick with my plan for a higher range compact digi cam.
LoL.....
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cant wait to sell off my D7000 bleh
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 24 2014, 11:40 AM)
cant wait to sell off my D7000 bleh
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What lens ur going with the a6000?
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For now, just the 16-50 kit lens and the SEL 35 f/1.8 OSS rclxms.gif
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I'm moving from a semi pro DSLR, Canon 60D to a mirrorless camera too! smile.gif It's the Sony A6000! rclxms.gif
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I own A6000. a very nice camera smile.gif
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For now, just the 16-50 kit lens and the SEL 35 f/1.8 OSS rclxms.gif
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I also tempted. Why not sigma instead?
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 22 2014, 11:05 PM)
Greetings!
I'm currently having a basic DSLR set,

- Nikon D7000 ( whole set including lens )
- Nissin Di622
-AF NIKKOR 50mm f/1.8D
and I was thinking whether should I sell it off and get an extremely good compact camera?
My DSLR has been collecting a lot of dust unfortunately due to the fact that I'm just too darn busy nowadays
And whenever I'm heading out, I'll be too lazy to bring out my DLSR due to the fact that it's heavy and bulky

What I'm seeking for is a Digital Compact Camera that has built in WiFi in it so that I can straight away send my photos to my iPhone and upload it on social networking websites
Also, a camera that is small and light, not forgetting good recording audio quality

I'm more to an outgoing person. What do you guys think?

My budget would be around RM2000+-
Depends on how much I can sell off what I'm having right now  sweat.gif
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this is what situation i facing years ago, DSLR set is good but not so portable, imagine we go traveling oversea, still need to take so heavy camera doh.gif

i end up with sold DSLR set and bring in sony NEX camera. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ho1286 @ Jun 24 2014, 05:22 PM)
this is what situation i facing years ago, DSLR set is good but not so portable, imagine we go traveling oversea, still need to take so heavy camera  doh.gif

i end up with sold DSLR set and bring in sony NEX camera.  thumbup.gif
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welcome to Sony NEX territory thumbup.gif

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I also tempted. Why not sigma instead?
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I got a good deal on it haha. Is the sigma version good? I hear most people talk about the Sony and Zeiss version
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So yeah here's an update, i just sold my D7000! Getting the Sony A6000 tomorrow smile.gif Or is there a better choice? Within the budget
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 24 2014, 10:50 PM)
So yeah here's an update, i just sold my D7000! Getting the Sony A6000 tomorrow smile.gif Or is there a better choice? Within the budget
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if for mirrorless camera, i believe ur decision is wise choice
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QUOTE(Leekarsing @ Jun 24 2014, 11:48 PM)
if for mirrorless camera, i believe ur decision is wise choice
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jun 23 2014, 11:21 PM)
I'm moving from a semi pro DSLR, Canon 60D to a mirrorless camera too! smile.gif It's the Sony A6000! rclxms.gif
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same with me..ditch my 60d for a6000.... brows.gif
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Already got the A6000, it's amazing guys!
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 26 2014, 11:12 PM)
Already got the A6000, it's amazing guys!
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 26 2014, 11:12 PM)
Already got the A6000, it's amazing guys!
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just get my external flash HVL-F43M for my A6000. with A6000 with SEL1670Z & HVL-F43M, i'm amazed of the IQ produced by them smile.gif
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I, on the other hand, switch from RX100 to Olympus E-M1 and never regret at all. I find compact camera without viewfinder is really hard to take daylight picture mirrorless is the perfect combination of portability and performance smile.gif

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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Jun 27 2014, 12:18 AM)
just get my external flash HVL-F43M for my A6000. with A6000 with SEL1670Z & HVL-F43M, i'm amazed of the IQ produced by them smile.gif
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How much you buy HVL-F43M? Im also looking for F43M..
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How much you buy HVL-F43M? Im also looking for F43M..
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well, my price is direct from dealer since i have relationship with dealer, thus price is *censored*

but if not mistaken outside is selling around 900
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Jun 26 2014, 11:18 PM)
just get my external flash HVL-F43M for my A6000. with A6000 with SEL1670Z & HVL-F43M, i'm amazed of the IQ produced by them smile.gif
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Zeiss 16-70 is way too big for a small camera like the A6000 brows.gif
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Zeiss 16-70 is way too big for a small camera like the A6000 brows.gif
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i feel quite ergonomic and well balance when attach the SEL1670Z to A6000 body smile.gif
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QUOTE(Moonflown @ Jun 27 2014, 12:28 AM)
I, on the other hand, switch from RX100 to Olympus E-M1 and never regret at all. I find compact camera without viewfinder is really hard to take daylight picture mirrorless is the perfect combination of portability and performance smile.gif
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for me, i use my NEX7 when travel but mostly use my RX100 II (90%). It sticks with me like my phone as its easy for my to carry any where without hassle
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Jun 26 2014, 11:18 PM)
just get my external flash HVL-F43M for my A6000. with A6000 with SEL1670Z & HVL-F43M, i'm amazed of the IQ produced by them smile.gif
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Amazed myself too, shall invest on lenses first since i seldom use flash heh
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Jun 27 2014, 02:28 AM)
well, my price is direct from dealer since i have relationship with dealer, thus price is *censored*

but if not mistaken outside is selling around 900
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can you get me same price with your dealer for me.. Ori sony flash quite expensive lor..
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 27 2014, 09:51 AM)
Amazed myself too, shall invest on lenses first since i seldom use flash heh
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i suggest u can get prime lenses 1st, like SEL30M35 or SEL50F18, which suitable for portrait photography.
of coz, depends on ur preference smile.gif
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QUOTE(noramin @ Jun 27 2014, 10:15 AM)
can you get me same price with your dealer for me.. Ori sony flash quite expensive lor..
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to be frank, i can't do like that. if i do like this, market will be spoiled. hope u understand wat i mean
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Jun 27 2014, 02:16 PM)
to be frank, i can't do like that. if i do like this, market will be spoiled. hope u understand wat i mean
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no problem.. just try my luck.. =D
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I sold my nikon D3100+kit lens+50mm f1.8 too and got the A6000.
Recently I got the 35mm f1.8. Loving it so much so no regrets letting my dslr go.
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Jun 27 2014, 08:01 AM)
i feel quite ergonomic and well balance when attach the SEL1670Z to A6000 body smile.gif
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It should be very front heavy leh.
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jun 27 2014, 06:33 PM)
It should be very front heavy leh.
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not that heavy. i believe most user may accept it

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QUOTE(avanpiper @ Jun 27 2014, 06:30 PM)
I sold my nikon D3100+kit lens+50mm f1.8 too and got the A6000.
Recently I got the 35mm f1.8. Loving it so much so no regrets letting my dslr go.
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Someone told me the A6000 has the same sensor as the D3100! Haha
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Jun 27 2014, 01:10 PM)
i suggest u can get prime lenses 1st, like SEL30M35 or SEL50F18, which suitable for portrait photography.
of coz, depends on ur preference smile.gif
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I'm planning to get SEL16F28 first. Pretty tight on budget sad.gif
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 27 2014, 07:47 PM)
Someone told me the A6000 has the same sensor as the D3100! Haha
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impossible, d3100 is a dinosaur already compared to the technology packed a6000.
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Jun 27 2014, 08:37 PM)
impossible, d3100 is a dinosaur already compared to the technology packed a6000.
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Well...
http://snapsort.com/compare/Nikon_D3100-vs...00#similarities
Large sensors
D3100: APS-C 23.1x15.4mm
A6000: APS-C 23.5x15.6mm

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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 27 2014, 09:03 PM)
Well...
http://snapsort.com/compare/Nikon_D3100-vs...00#similarities
Large sensors
D3100: APS-C 23.1x15.4mm
A6000: APS-C 23.5x15.6mm
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Its true Nikon does use Sony Sensors. The A6000 is probably the newest apsc sensor sony has. The nikon d3100 has 14.1MP sensor so probably nowehere close to A6000 sensor. The Nikon D3200 is probably using the same 24MP sensor as the NEX or A SLTs.

Nothing new that companies buy other company's parts to use in their products, of course with contract deal.

Edit: Well seeing Canon rumors of the Canon 7Dmk11 might be using a foveon sensor. Maybe they outsourcing too with Sigma?

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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 27 2014, 09:03 PM)
Well...
http://snapsort.com/compare/Nikon_D3100-vs...00#similarities
Large sensors
D3100: APS-C 23.1x15.4mm
A6000: APS-C 23.5x15.6mm
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doh.gif

Sensor size NEVER indicate that sensors are same.

For example, both the 5D mark III and mark II has the same size of sensor.

Does this make the sensor same?

Just like Toyota and Honda having the same displacement size engine, but they will never be the same block.
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 27 2014, 07:49 PM)
I'm planning to get SEL16F28 first. Pretty tight on budget sad.gif
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if planning to use UWA or fisheye converter, u can go for SEL16F28. otherwise u just continue use the kit lens SELP1650, since both lens wide end is same 16mm (24mm equivalent with full frame camera's field of view)
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 27 2014, 09:03 PM)
Well...
http://snapsort.com/compare/Nikon_D3100-vs...00#similarities
Large sensors
D3100: APS-C 23.1x15.4mm
A6000: APS-C 23.5x15.6mm
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well,
according to technical specification, both were using APS-C size image sensor, and Sony is the image sensor manufacturer for both camera. however, they were manufactured with different technology and image processor, thus their image output is quite different
moreover, A6000 is mirrorless camera, with electronic front curtain shutter, enable faster shutter response, which is faster and better than d3100
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Jun 27 2014, 10:40 PM)
if planning to use UWA or fisheye converter, u can go for SEL16F28. otherwise u just continue use the kit lens SELP1650, since both lens wide end is same 16mm (24mm equivalent with full frame camera's field of view)
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Hold up... I'm a lil' bit confused here.
Whats the difference between SEL16F28 and SELP1650 then? Let's assume that I'm not planning to get either the UWA or fisheye converter.
Will the images of the SEL16F28 turn 'sharper'?
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It should be very front heavy leh.
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Jun 27 2014, 10:51 PM)
well,
according to technical specification, both were using APS-C size image sensor, and Sony is the image sensor manufacturer for both camera. however, they were manufactured with different technology and image processor, thus their image output is quite different
moreover, A6000 is mirrorless camera, with electronic front curtain shutter, enable faster shutter response, which is faster and better than d3100
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no need go into so detail la, compare the age already know. impossible to use a same sensor for so long on different cameras right (other than silly canon tongue.gif)

QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 27 2014, 10:52 PM)
Hold up... I'm a lil' bit confused here.
Whats the difference between SEL16F28 and SELP1650 then? Let's assume that I'm not planning to get either the UWA or fisheye converter.
Will the images of the SEL16F28 turn 'sharper'?
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Don't prioritize sharpness when you are just a beginner looking to get a good camera.

the 1650 might not be as sharp as the 16 since it's meant to be a cheap and convenient kit lens instead of a professional high quality lens. but you get a good wide angle (24mm on FF equivalent) and telephoto (75mm on FF equivalent) instead of getting stucked on 24mm with the 16.

sharper image is useless if you don't get the zoom/ reach you wanted, cropping a image will always degrade it compared to physical zoom.
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 27 2014, 10:52 PM)
Hold up... I'm a lil' bit confused here.
Whats the difference between SEL16F28 and SELP1650 then? Let's assume that I'm not planning to get either the UWA or fisheye converter.
Will the images of the SEL16F28 turn 'sharper'?
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SEL16F28 is fixed focal wide angle lens, meanwhile SELP1650 is standard zoom lens. if u never plan to get converter u should stick on the kit lens, and actually SELP1650 overall IQ is better than SEL16F28

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Jun 27 2014, 11:05 PM)
no need go into so detail la, compare the age already know. impossible to use a same sensor for so long on different cameras right (other than silly canon tongue.gif)
Don't prioritize sharpness when you are just a beginner looking to get a good camera.

the 1650 might not be as sharp as the 16 since it's meant to be a cheap and convenient kit lens instead of a professional high quality lens. but you get a good wide angle (24mm on FF equivalent) and telephoto (75mm on FF equivalent) instead of getting stucked on 24mm with the 16.

sharper image is useless if you don't get the zoom/ reach you wanted, cropping a image will always degrade it compared to physical zoom.
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Jun 27 2014, 11:05 PM)
no need go into so detail la, compare the age already know. impossible to use a same sensor for so long on different cameras right (other than silly canon tongue.gif)
Don't prioritize sharpness when you are just a beginner looking to get a good camera.

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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Jun 27 2014, 11:05 PM)
SEL16F28 is fixed focal wide angle lens, meanwhile SELP1650 is standard zoom lens. if u never plan to get converter u should stick on the kit lens, and actually SELP1650 overall IQ is better than SEL16F28
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Advice taken! Much thanks. May i ask does the SEL20F28 cost more expensive? Isnt the SEL16F28 'wider'?
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 27 2014, 11:08 PM)
Advice taken! Much thanks. May i ask does the SEL20F28 cost more expensive? Isnt the SEL16F28 'wider'?
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SEL16F28 is wider than SEL20F28, but if terms of IQ, for my test, i feel SEL20F28 sharpness is slightly better. otherwise both lens perform quite similar

*just take note of i never own SEL20F28 before and i just having a short test which my friend own it. maybe other user can share with even more detail
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Jun 27 2014, 11:12 PM)
SEL16F28 is wider than SEL20F28, but if terms of IQ, for my test, i feel SEL20F28 sharpness is slightly better. otherwise both lens perform quite similar

*just take note of i never own SEL20F28 before and i just having a short test which my friend own it. maybe other user can share with even more detail
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Conclusion, people get the SEL16F28 because its pocketable, light, small and they want to use either the fish eye or wide angle converter
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This is a good read guys about the A6000
http://www.alinpopescu.eu/blog/full-review...eautiful-dream/
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 27 2014, 11:19 PM)
Conclusion, people get the SEL16F28 because its pocketable, light, small and they want to use either the fish eye or wide angle converter
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A6000 body itself is not pocketable. In the old days the sony kit lens was long like a dslr kit lens so that's why the pancake really made sense. Now sony kit lenses are all retractable zoom lens that shrink close in size to a pancake lens. And the new kit lens already has the range 16mm@F3.5, so not much use for a sony 16mm@F2.8.

The next lens should be something that the kit lens can't do. Like a telephoto zoom 55-210mm lens for portraits, birds, sports etc. Or a 30mm macro to shoot bugs or other macro stuff. Or a 50mm f1.8 prime for sharp bokehlicious portraits. But before you get them you have to think what do you want to do or else you're just buying a lens just to sit in a drybox.
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 27 2014, 07:49 PM)
I'm planning to get SEL16F28 first. Pretty tight on budget sad.gif
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seriously, SELP1650 is very good enough for general use, compare with SEL16F28. i would recommend u to get SEL55210
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QUOTE(Leekarsing @ Jun 28 2014, 12:08 PM)
seriously, SELP1650 is very good enough for general use, compare with SEL16F28. i would recommend u to get SEL55210
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 28 2014, 12:14 PM)
i seldom zoom  sweat.gif  haha
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then go for prime lens. like SEL30M35 or SEL50F18. both perform very well in terms of portrait, although SEL30M35 is used for macro photography

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Just to widen your choices

- Fujifilm X-E1 with 18-55mm = RM 2390
- Sony NEX-5T with 16-50mm = RM 1750
- Sony A6000 with 16-50mm = RM 2490
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Just to widen your choices

- Fujifilm X-E1 with 18-55mm = RM 2390
- Sony NEX-5T with 16-50mm = RM 1750
- Sony A6000 with 16-50mm = RM 2490
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I got the A6000 + extra battery + 8GB C10 HDSC + Bag for rm2,100 rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 28 2014, 09:13 PM)
I got the A6000 + extra battery + 8GB C10 HDSC + Bag for rm2,100  rclxm9.gif
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i get better than yours. for A6000 body + Sandisk class10 16GB + Extra Original Battery + Original External charger + 3 years warranty from Sony Malaysia
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i get better than yours. for A6000 body + Sandisk class10 16GB + Extra Original Battery + Original External charger + 3 years warranty from Sony Malaysia
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a warm welcome to join ILCE-6000 club icon_rolleyes.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Leekarsing @ Jun 29 2014, 12:15 AM)
i get better than yours. for A6000 body + Sandisk class10 16GB + Extra Original Battery + Original External charger + 3 years warranty from Sony Malaysia
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price u get? mind to share??
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 27 2014, 07:47 PM)
Someone told me the A6000 has the same sensor as the D3100! Haha
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I think EVF really makes it a better experience for me after I changed to A6000.
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QUOTE(Leekarsing @ Jun 29 2014, 12:15 AM)
i get better than yours. for A6000 body + Sandisk class10 16GB + Extra Original Battery + Original External charger + 3 years warranty from Sony Malaysia
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What's the price? RNM2,100 also?
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Jun 29 2014, 12:20 AM)
a warm welcome to join ILCE-6000 club  icon_rolleyes.gif  thumbup.gif
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price u get? mind to share??
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 29 2014, 11:14 AM)
What's the price? RNM2,100 also?
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not really, around RM21XX
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QUOTE(avanpiper @ Jun 29 2014, 11:06 AM)
I think EVF really makes it a better experience for me after I changed to A6000.
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i prefer OVF as it drain lesser battery than using EVF, however EVF real-time display really awesome
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QUOTE(Leekarsing @ Jun 29 2014, 11:48 AM)
not really, around RM21XX
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but body only right? mine was with kitlens

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dayuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
but body only right? mine was with kitlens
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depends ppl preference. anyway i not reveal the exact price
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Jun 29 2014, 12:18 PM)
definitely poisoned by the Zeiss
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definitely poisoned by the Zeiss
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i prefer OVF as it drain lesser battery than using EVF, however EVF real-time display really awesome
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exactly, the evf is really great. Though yes, the downside is the battery finishes faster. That's why need to prepare about 2-3 extra if traveling.
Still I'd pick mirrorless anytime over dslr now.
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QUOTE(avanpiper @ Jun 29 2014, 12:38 PM)
exactly, the evf is really great. Though yes, the downside is the battery finishes faster. That's why need to prepare about 2-3 extra if traveling.
Still I'd pick mirrorless anytime over dslr now.
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QUOTE(avanpiper @ Jun 29 2014, 12:38 PM)
exactly, the evf is really great. Though yes, the downside is the battery finishes faster. That's why need to prepare about 2-3 extra if traveling.
Still I'd pick mirrorless anytime over dslr now.
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OVF feels more 'original' but EVF feels like I'm keeping up with the latest technology. Hehe
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a warm welcome to join ILCE-6000 club  icon_rolleyes.gif  thumbup.gif
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Just finish COD-ing with Vincent, thanks buddy its a really good lens!
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Get a mirrorless camera, like Fujifilm XE1 or XE2. You will be amazed at the image quality. I used to be a canon DSLR owner with L lenses (100mm f2.8L, 200mm L2.8 etc) and after using the fujifilm, I realised that getting a DSLR was a mistake for me.
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Just finish COD-ing with Vincent, thanks buddy its a really good lens!
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QUOTE(gabrielle_lee @ Jun 29 2014, 10:05 PM)
Get a mirrorless camera, like Fujifilm XE1 or XE2. You will be amazed at the image quality. I used to be a canon DSLR owner with L lenses (100mm f2.8L, 200mm L2.8 etc) and after using the fujifilm, I realised that getting a DSLR was a mistake for me.
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QUOTE(gabrielle_lee @ Jun 29 2014, 10:05 PM)
Get a mirrorless camera, like Fujifilm XE1 or XE2. You will be amazed at the image quality. I used to be a canon DSLR owner with L lenses (100mm f2.8L, 200mm L2.8 etc) and after using the fujifilm, I realised that getting a DSLR was a mistake for me.
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Hi Gan the master of photography,

Just wanna ask, is 5d mark ii still worth buying
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QUOTE(fas29 @ Jun 29 2014, 11:37 PM)
Hi Gan the master of photography,

Just wanna ask, is 5d mark ii still worth buying
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Just finish COD-ing with Vincent, thanks buddy its a really good lens!
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Wow, there is a lot of poison here... Sadly im broke, i have to sell my kidney if i want to buy other lenses...
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QUOTE(akira87 @ Jun 30 2014, 12:53 AM)
Wow, there is a lot of poison here... Sadly im broke, i have to sell my kidney if i want to buy other lenses...
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Buy second-hand lenses  icon_rolleyes.gif
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using Fuji XE1...ditched my Canon EOS 600D cause it's too bulky and obvious.
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I will do that if im not getting married in December. So lesson of the day, dont get married until u have what u want...
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I still have my 600D, but I'm not using it anymore.

 

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