After getting that 5-9K, 10K, 15K, 20K Sound system.
Seriously what's the rationale in spending that kind of money would justify?

I could live on at least half a year of food supply with that kind of money.

After upgrading to that monster coaxle cable and all that stuff, what kind of music you're gonna listen to, after that huge investment? Hokkien evergreen? or those typical (make no sense head banging) ahbeng disco sound?
Unless you want to listen to good quality music (maybe adult contemporary) then at least i could understand,...BUT to have such good quality ICE and to play less than average quality music, really baffles me.

I dunno, maybe some of you must have too much money or just couldnt lose out (kiasu) to the next guy. Maybe i just can't stand those typical ppl who spend monster budget on sound system and start playing those "dub dub dub" music (yeah like that's quality music justified to used on quality ICE) and for the sake of showing off his investment, turn up the music so loud even with his window fully wind up but still horribly loud from other car is enough to justify that kind spending?

Maybe now i know why Malaysia Buleh really flourish in this ricekid-cultured country.

Thats y i just spent only 300 on the HU of my Gen2 (Phase 1, amp and maybe speakers are coming later)... I prefer to go for these ICE items on a shoestring budget... Even though the equipment is cheaper, i can still get quality sound and listening experience without having to spend a bomb!

And btw, i ain't a head-banging music listener... I prefer to go for songs played by Mix FM or Light & Easy as these are more relaxing tunes while driving (although the noisy ones come out for long-distance trips, prevents sleepiness due to boredom !)

Also warrior, you've posted excellent points there, bro... Good thinking!

This post has been edited by ClieNut Gadget Freak: Aug 14 2006, 11:17 AM

Ok, the first thing you need to get into your head is that there are lots of ways to spend lots of money on ICE. It is unfair for you to label everyone who spends a lot of money on ICE as the same kind of person.

The "dub-dub-dub" ones are the ones you notice. There are thousands of others running around with setups that you cannot hear, but cost more than those ricer setups. Get it?

I just bought a new car, and have just spent 20% of the total cost of the car on ICE. And I am not done yet. Why? Because I insist on getting a very high level of sound quality from inside my car. I spend a lot of time in it, and it is worth every penny. Trust me, when you put on some nicely mastered classical music or some well-produced contemporary tunes, it is really warm and detailed and as you drive you enter a different world. It is amazing.

There are lots like me. If you think all people who invest in ICE listen to disco or techno and focus their money on massive subs to impress everyone else, then you need to get out more and you need to sit down in the driver's seat of a car with at least RM15k of equipment thrown at it in a good install and listen to your favourite CD. Then, my friend, you will understand.

Wah, what brand of ICE are u using, mate? And btw (OT here ya), what exactly is a crossover compared with amp? Noob in ICE here actually...

I have been driving my Kenari without any entertainment for more than 2 years.

Period.

amplifier - to amplifier sound signal
crossover - a device to change the cut-off frequence/ filter the frequency

@threadstarter
i agree with deadlock... in the end it all comes down to personal satisfaction... labelling people who spend money on ICE just aint right... what about people who spend money modding their cars? or buying expensive cars or bikes? or building huge houses.... same shit different bucket dude... in the end it all comes down to personal satisfaction.

one man's fun is another's hell.............

My friend spent around RM10k-15k and he won 2nd place in AMMA competition back in 2004.

Difference people difference requirement.
They spend on what they need & satisfaction, that is enough.
If send more than RM10k & can't get what they want... That is OMG..
Not everyone spend few k because of "Dub DUb DUb" le... We spend what we want, can say hobby guar...

Difference people difference point of view mah... some just need sound loud only, some need SQ, some need SPL...Depend what level you can go for loh..... U?



This post has been edited by loon1031: Aug 14 2006, 07:44 PM

Hey guys... Query here again...

I'm planning to upgrade my stock ICE in the Gen2... Is it advisable to change the entire system with a component set or place the amp first? The shops i went to all mentioned its up to me lor... Pardon me, still a noob in this!

Wah, that's an investment well-spent... How much was the price money then? Btw, what is the AMMA?

depends on ur budget

Hehe .. Yup see how much u can spend loh...then can "Follow the Bill Pick the medicine"

This post has been edited by loon1031: Aug 15 2006, 12:09 AM

Thanks guys... Looks like i should be going for the amp then... Two channel or four chan. recommended?

I am also the type of person who would throw in $ for personal satisfaction inside my car, which is also considered as my 2nd home.

I can't recalled back whether he received prize in money but he definitely brought back a trophy and it is still kept by his installer KF Audio. AMMA is a sub-group of EMMA. EMMA - European Mobile Media Association . AMMA - Asian Mobile Media Association.

http://www.emmanet.com/Intro.htm

If you want your money well spent, I reccomend you go for SQ. Do some research and join internet forums such as IASCA.

This post has been edited by igor_is300: Aug 15 2006, 09:21 AM

personal satisfaction...
some willing to spend 10k on ICE, some willing to spend 10k on exterior look....

I prefer spend for ICE than exterior look loh...
ICE for mylf enjoy mah...
Exterior look for other people eye enjoy ..hehe

When talk about budget, first we must talk about what we want. If not going for very high end, rm2-3k will do, can get a 'good' setup.
22 to go.

This post has been edited by kyheng: Aug 16 2006, 08:19 PM

@threadstarter

again it all come down to personal interest. some ppl would spend 1k++ a month at cybercafe. some ppl would spend a bomb on pc.

can you justify that?

almost RM1.5k on ice for my car. thats' it enough.

for me 1.8k. enough.. and moving to my next hobby which is err.. still thinking..

don u ppl think this thread should b placed in subforum of kopitiam??

Threadstarter, if you think people in lowyat.net forum spend alot in ICE, and if you think that ICE is just for DUB DUB DUB, you're wrong. Go do your homework before bombarding people okay?

go to mycarhifi.com and read up. See how people spend their money and what they know about ICE. They know every single detail. ICE is not just about DUB DUB DUB. For those ppl who DUB DUB DUB, they don't know what is ICE, they know what is DUB DUB DUB.

ICE is a hobby, why would someone risk his/her life doing things like bungee jumping, base jumping, or whatever.

Why would someone spend tens and thousands of DOLLARS for a single piece of baseball card with just a picture of player holding a bat? Does that satisfy them? Why would someone spend so much money modding their Casing? IT'S HOBBY for god's sake?

Are you sick of this because your children spends too much money in ICE? Then go speak to him/her and stop starting useless thread saying it's useless.

Threadstarter not here anymore, waste my time type so much ... ..

u wont satisfy with 10k 20k 5ok d ice laa.....no end 1...wasting money

its like computer also... today you spend 10K on them... the next day another new and better thing came out... you like it then you will spend another amount of money to hav it... so ICE and computer is basically the same thing...

wasting or not... well if you are not into it... then sure you say its wasting to put in so much money, effort and time jus to listen to music... or probably you will say "got sound then good liao"... but i am serious about getting the best sound from my system and i spend 3 hours of my weekends to "take care" of my system... and when i got the right tuning and setting, i think the money is well spent... not at all wasting because i got what i wan...

so its like a man's food is another's poison... no point if we keep arguing here... a person who go for car performance will say tht ICE will jus get him slower as it adds weight... my brother is a "rare car accecories" collector... he spends hundreds jus for a rear view mirror, hundreds for a rare momo steering... a few thousand for a slightly torned recaro A4... and in my opinion, its wasting, but for him, its pleasure...

cheers...

yaya....can listen then ok liao...nt ned compare wit others...hahaa

buy car also same ... can take u to the destination enuf

well..it's up to individual..see which that u can compromise with..there's no right and wrong
if ur ear can't differenciate a 10k system with 1k system
then why shud u spend the extra 9k.. got it?

yea... thts the simple way to put it... i believe tht enthusiast has different level of requirement compared to normal listeners...

Ya loh...
Same as Proton Wira compare with Evolution...
If you think car for you from a place go to other place... Buy Proton Wira enuf loh...
If you need performance then will go to Evolution la...but price difference alot la

ICE also same concept mah...
How much you spend how great you get..

but i like wira more le.. cuz i can mod it to various mitsu model... like evo, mirage, mivec, or jus a wira... hehehe...

same lor...
i like to have better sound... so that i can enjoy r&b, classical, new age, rock, heavy metal, vocal, trance, techno... or just.... 988 988 staging... DJ speaking in the middle of dashboard...kewl !!

well said, threadstarter must be a paranoia as u can see from his/her signature.

I was a newbie in ICE and I had the same thoughts of people putting so much into it too until I upgraded my sound system..

but then now I understand the difference between SPL and SQ which ppl like the threadstarter wouldn't understand....

sigh its like putting ur d*ck into the p*ssy and rubbing ur d*ck outside..both will still make you cum but which would you enjoy more...

just like a cantonese saying..."manh sai gan ching si ho mat"...

what is love...we just can't define it...our love for sound!!

Goddamn!! I just love the sentence..

This post has been edited by thom_chai: Sep 19 2006, 04:51 PM

erm....last tim i used 1.5k...now use 3k d......

You can tune for imaging/soundstage, stage height etc but you just cannot tune tonal quality, you'll have to buy it.
I'll salute to anyone who can tune a Mohawk to sound like Dynaudio.

uncle.. u still hangs around? glad 2 hear from u

Still surviving, stop upgrading!!

u haven update ur sig bout the silk dome tweeties

Anyway ICE is considered as 1 of the entertainment and entertainment is a very subjective topic to discuss/argue about. There's no 100% sure on certain things. But for some rich 'yee sai jou' rm20k is nothing for them, for me rm20k is my 1 year salary already. It depends on people's taste. To people that flaming the threadstarter, are you all 100% right on 'your' views? In forum, we are exchanging views/knowledge and not everytime we will be agree to everything. Instead of denying people's view, why not respect people's view? We must also think that people that living in Africa has no money to buy food, just think about it, if you were living in Africa, will you have so much of luxury to waste money?

what happened uncle..? y i stop listening about this name uncle soong in the forum edi ah? so all these while u r wif us

i miss ur woofer so so much..

i c tat ur signature there has an accord.. u stop driving the camry edi?

This post has been edited by mattchin: Oct 10 2006, 11:00 AM

Fusion, news travels fast!!!!
Yes, enjoying every minute of the new soft dome-great extension and very sweet.
mattchin, yes, been away from this forum for a while after I lost the web address after the PC kena virus.
Just changed to the Accord late last year and transferred all the equipment in the Camry to this new ride.

its like drug addict i guess, like tha amount u spend on yr pc, in the end they all did the same job only.

the camry now belongs to another taikor of ICE

uh..

siape tu? ICE gang? he he

btw, uncle.. wat nice tweets haf u got?? sounds like canggih onli..
those tua tua liap 1?

This post has been edited by mattchin: Oct 10 2006, 10:56 PM

The SEAS R27T soft dome, small small one!!

wat is dif between SQ or SQL system????wat it is stand for??

warh.. FULL set of SEAS speakers.. if onli i can audit again

Here we have 4 cars with complete SEAS speakers powered by 4 different amps-Brax, McIntosh, Luxman and Tube Butler Blue.
There's also another subless set up using Audison CS amp powering the SEAS front speakers as well.

all ur SEAS bought from oversea? like ur braX too?

wah lau... got so many luxurious amp arh.. never get 2 know.. ha! ha!.. geng ah, SIFU..

u should open ur eye to more forum then....hehe...

Yes, we bought the SEAS from the distributor in the US with the help of a forummer here who, from time to time, arrange group buy to save on the shipping cost.
The distributor is also a great friend of us here.

does the cheapest 6.5" SEAS comp touches 2k?

The cheapest SEAS comps is their Performance Series which lacks lower midbass terribly.
If you want SEAS, go get the Reference Series which retail for about US1,800, excl. tax and shipping.

fui yoh..!!

this is what i call speaker orang kaya..

No, speaker orang gila!!!