why so much hate in this thread? lol. So what if you have degree and fulltime or whatsover?

All of us just play dota for fun. If you always speak like your a boss here you speak it when you are top of the mmr ladder.

All the players who go pro have sacrificed their time and golden opportunity to kickstart a stable career. They are all going for the large prize money and those that fail are leaving the scenes for sure unless some Datuks decide to venture in competitive scene.

Arrow's team is still young and they have been doing good so far especially scoring 2 pts with 2 games to go given their experience in the international scene. Out of all the teams, Arrow has only played with Titan and it is pretty expected that they would lose others on draft / experience (such as Lance throwing with PA on early game, neglecting all farms). They are still 18-19 and if they continue to improve by participating more tournaments next year provided they receive stable resources, they can aim for the money for nxt few years and retire to focus on their individual path.

B-god drafted twice today and they lost twice straight, they simply threw the first game against VG. After that, Lahm took over the draft and they won the next two with better heroes draft (timbersaw for ice3, puck for mushi)

This post has been edited by darksider: Jul 12 2014, 06:00 PM

Lol, very funny, what's so grand about having degree? And having degree doesn't make anyone more superior than others.

He can earn few grands every month, have all the fun in life, have sports car and all the luxuries but that does not make him more superior. The feeling of superior is nothing more than delusion and the self confidence exuded in that delusion is highly dependent on the eyes of the onlooker. Once he meets someone having more that defined attributes he would crumble to little sheeple feeling inferior.

No one can stop him from feeling superior over others and belittling them. It is very easy to talk cock and humiliate others with words, but that only shows how shallow is his spirituality.

I have a prestigious degree on my name and stable high paying job and yet I don't think I am superior than others. The society has been on a rat race so having degree or others just make you race faster and get exhausted more easily. Also, each of us have our own paths and degrading the others just because their paths are not as conventional as yours? That is how you start to f*** your own life.

Who cares about if Arrow has their attitude problems or whatever. They earned their place in Ti4 and even if they lost it it is their problem. To belittle them and talk about how they flamed people like you never flamed before in such unfriendly DotA 2 gaming full of ego personalities ultimately goes to one thing - sour grapes.

If you cant even make it to top 16 teams, then shut up. The dota 2 ranking system does not truly indicate how good do you play. You can have 5/6k and that doesn't make you a good player. CIS june is 6.8k in China but does that make him better than most veterans who don't even touch mmr? CIS lost and blamed the management like kids without thinking it is all their follies for having not trained over the past 40 days before ti4, citing reasons such as problems in visa application which they failed twice due to applying unprepared and celebrated like they had won ti4 when they finally got approved on visa, neglecting all the opportunities to train with Black. CIS inflames, june and those LGD are top 15 in their MMR in China and look, where are they? One is struggling for last spot another struggling with their despicable trip.

This post has been edited by darksider: Jul 12 2014, 06:41 PM

Why even bother to have proper conversation? Just relax and enjoy the game. The more you feed the trolls, the better it gets for them.

The people who belittle others are those that does not have self-confidence. They need to constantly boost their own inferiority-complex self identity by degrading others.

Many of them can talk such provocatively because they are not speaking face to face, they do it only in front of computer, sneaking behind bush like a coward. Doubt if they will talk like this face to face. Truly strong and humble people will never talk this way. I have a friend in university who always belittles others and boasts his own achievements when he is the one that is clearly inferior in almost every aspects which is very similar to some forumers here. In the end, he ended up getting second upper class when he thought he would nail first class.

This post has been edited by darksider: Jul 12 2014, 07:01 PM

Your words reek of barbarian smell who only knows uttering foul language when he loses his stance or faces challenge.

Get a life? Thank you, I have a life and you have too, but you think too great of yourself. So you believe other people deserve the slot, then form a team, get into online tournament, build the reputation instead of degrading the current roster. If you cannot do it, then shut the f*** up. You judged a lot of pro players like you are one of them when your name is unknown in the Dota 2 scene. You don't need all of your so-called enemies to remind you that you are just a nobody trying to make a fuss on people who worked hard to be there.

Maybe you dream of getting to ti yourself but you couldn't, hence all the sour grapes. You sound like you have been earning hundred grands per month when your salary is nowhere high.

If you really think degree is nothing why would you humiliate others who have no degree and full-time jobs? You think you are the one who has full-time here? You think you are earning decent salary? I don't even need to say anything.

Aiya, people like you are really delusional. Continue to live in denial and your small world.

People like these are everywhere. I have seen a lot during my university life in Singapore. These people are too self-centered to even appreciate and accept differing opinions. They bash on virtually everything they believe to be deserving and all they say and do are all tying up with their personal identity.

I believe the best way is to ignore people like this. You cannot have any proper discussion with them as their preconceptions and biases are as much as their uncountable hair.

I spent about 20 minutes to read and write about it and I rest my case now, time to go back to the peaceful world.

Alliance's performance in Ti4 thus far has been pretty expected. Their battle plans have been thoroughly studied and countered especially on their over-reliance on AdmiralBulldog. Since 2014, they changed captain twice or more (Loda, then to AdmiralBulldog) and then it didn't help them at all, their losing streaks over few tournaments shattered their confidence.

A good chinese analaysis on the falling of [A] can be read here
http://nga.178.com/read.php?tid=7028322

This post has been edited by darksider: Jul 12 2014, 08:59 PM

Assuming it is him, he has ties with Orange esports and he felt Orange deserved the wildcard spot better. So all the bashing on current roster of Arrow. Lol.

With his elitist attitude, I doubt he can even make it on the scene regardless of how good or skillful he is.

Basically the analysis says that [A] has a battle system that relies on synergy of all 5 members. Once any of them is broken down, the system will break. But if none of them is impeded, they will work perfectly like in TI3. Their synergies worked very well until people learnt that bulldog has only small pools of heroes, and they forced them to pick those heroes that bulldog cannot thrive on. But the whole synergy thing relies a lot on Bulldog's performance and if he doesn't play those selected few heroes, Alliance won't thrive. If Alliance compromised and allowed Bulldog to play other heroes not in their synergy tactic, their plan then will not work. This explains why [A] has not performed well since Jan 2014.

In analysis, they said S4 now always got picked off or engaged in very risky maneuver. Without S4 good initiation it is hard for [A] to win a teamfight, and everytime he makes mistakes, [A] loses a chunk of advantage.

They lost to Newbee, VG, IG (IG won them 2-0 in previous meeting), Titan, DK, Fnatic, Liquid and LGD. All the china teams won [A] pretty easily because they have hacked their synergy system. [A] doesn't have alternative strategy like VG and DK, so they are in huge disadvantage each time they play those who understood them too well.

1v1 depends on many things and element of luck is crucial. If u get some runes like DD/haste it is easy to first blood.

If sponsors have no confidence in them I think they will have hard time after ti4. They have to really develop more strategy and include more style in their plays in order to stay in the scene.

Best scenario : LGD loses last game, [A] win twice and remaining team below/par with [A] lose all their games.

Even better: NB, Titan lost their remaining games, then [A] plays tiebreaker for spot 8,9,10. Navi can potentially join them.

lol, at the same time, many heroes are unpicked now - naix, pl, pudge, spirit breaker, magnus, am (very low win rate - 41% at 6.81 and pick rate 10% in pub), terrorblade, zeus, necrophos, sniper.

C9 against VG that game, VG kind of underestimate C9 in their draft. C9 has a trump in visage (the drow + visage combo). They picked row but VG didnt bother, they didnt ban visage next. Visage and Drow combo is gonna kill many in teamfight due to the silence, stun, and slow. C9 has been doing this many times and the win rate is rather high with that combo. EG has done it, DK has done it too (DK pioneered this combo back in early 2014).

I guess billy chin just sent pm too all those who opposed him, which is what a kid will do.

navi newbee game is exciting, very fast tempo, 27 kills in 16 min

EE showed mercy, now LGD who did badly in first day had chance for usd 571k!

I think C9 negotiated with LGD. They will give them a win if LGD will give them half prize money if LGD made it to top 8.

as new invoker, best to go QW first.

Item, make phase boots ,magic wand, force staff/dagger, orchid, Agh, eul, necrobook

Take midlane, harass opponent with QQQ coldsnap, and regen with QQQ too.

try to go higher Wex than Quas, for tornado dmg (2x multipler more than 1x for Q) and range.

Then use tornado > EMP (WWW) > coldsnap combo, you can join initiate any teamfight at top/bot lanes.

EMP will restore your mana and burn opponents mana (550 mana burnt max W)

Once in danger, or when you wan to farm safely, make sure you already invoke Ghost Walk QQW as the earlier invoke (which a new invoke would remove it), with ghost walk on your skill, use WWW for easy escape on most situations (your walk speed will be very high).

On high level, when your E is higher lvl, you can add new combo

1) Tornado / eul opponent > Sunstrike in split sec > meteor followed > QWE (defeaning blast) when opponents come off from tornado.

2) always open EEQ (forged spirit) when both Q and E are level 4. Use C to control both, just use it to hit tanky heroes (-1 armor per hit) during teamfight or use them on weak support. If ganking only one target, open forged spirit and use coldsnap. or simply ghost walk and use icewall then open forged spirit.

More or less like this, try them in bot matches or normal matches first.

Some interesting stuffs for you guys to see. There is one forumer here who always boasts around his achievement and abilities but no where near having guts to show the actual mmr or things he is bragging about.

I am here to reveal the true color of the self-proclaimed handsome Billy Wannabe.


You can find his dota 2 detail here: http://dotamax.com/player/detail/49653238/?ladder=y

This pic shows his match analysis (high skill bracket - if all players in the match are averagely within 3200-3700 mmr)

In his last 6 ranked matches, he was in high skill bracket, and the last 7th is in 'normal bracket'.

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Here is my dota 2 detail:

And I will add mine for comparison. My secondary account has 4.25k mmr after playing 10 calibration and my mmr has been circulating within 3900 to 4200. In my ranked match, I have never been in 'normal' skill bracket, and I have been in only 2 'high' skill bracket for all my 342 ranked games ( and those are the games when I played with my 3.4k party mmr friend), the other 340 being all in 'very high' skill bracket.


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Maybe I ain't good enough to play a lot in 'high' and 'normal' skill bracket ranked games. I know it. I am just noob enough to play in 'very high' skill bracket games most of the time.


So here ends my debunking session. Let's look what he has to say. lol

Bro I am not bragging, I am just posting to showcase someone's proclaimed 4.5k mmr or even 5k sth and he has been downplaying those Arrow players with 6k mmrs.

And 4.25k is not even considered good yet. For most players that I played together in ranked solo, many of them still would pick 4/5 carries and threw the game easily. Some don't even wards. Some play like 2k mmr.

4k mmr is nothing close to being good. A very skilled dota player would have close to 5.5-7k mmr if they play.

This post has been edited by darksider: Jul 13 2014, 03:38 PM