QE build is very difficult for new player. In early game you need to spot easy kills / combo with teammates sunstrike anywhere on map. Then, on mid, you use EEQ for forged spirit, open one, make it harass your enemy, if he comes, QQQ him and hit. Else, just focus on last hit with triple exort. If ppl gank you, be fast to use QEE ice wall to hold them especially near t1.

Up your skill till 4 Q 4 E you will have 2 forged spirits, you can pick off rather easily now.

Invoke EEQ, then QQQ, when near enemy, use forged, then invoke QEE. Just select your forged to hit enemy hero, then QQQ them, if they are still high health, phase boot go near use ice wall, then finish them. This is for teamfight. If solo kill, or nuking only 1 enemy, just use sunstrike instead of icewall.

After 4 0 4, up 1 Wex, then you can use the meteor , susntrike combo (if you decide to go euf), else, stick with forged spirit nuke.

you can train this in AI or normal pub match.

11 min dk c9 second game, shortest game so far in ti4

go titan, really impressive play

in interview NWP said they had studied them alot and they never did first minute rosh, so they totally didnt expect it and even so with the lineup.

They were pretty shocked

for the gamefy eavesdropping, the spy journalist has actually been caught on tape. It is right after DK won EG and they walked out of the room, there was a blue jacket guy sneaking into the room empty-handed and came out 10 seconds later with a camcorder.

check 00:26, 00:43

you can view the video here
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNzM5Njk3MDYw...90502-90497.2-1

espn covers only online streaming. but espn2 will stream the grand finals post ti4 maybe.

there are 5 channels in dota 2 official stream, player cam A, player cam B, crowd cam, newcomer and the main stream

This post has been edited by darksider: Jul 19 2014, 12:37 AM

1:00 if not mistaken. Dk starts on 3am

lol xiao8 in interview said he would tell his son he has won ti4.

newbee outdrafted vg this round. The first SS pick is sick. SS win rate is very high, abt >70% in ti4.

fenrir cant play sk, he jump in stun naix. why dont he wait tide ulti and ulti jump or just initiate

IMO burning hit by arrow at top lane without bb is key. it just handed over the whole dominance on map to eg

if burning didnt die DK would take all the remaining roshans. Why did burning ocmmit that mistake, running into arrows. gt punished so hard. 90 seconds

This post has been edited by darksider: Jul 19 2014, 05:30 AM

I hate it that DK lost their confidence in their style. They no longer play teamfight and only seeked lane controls going for late games. But this style is not dominating in current meta. They have to play like they did in star season 9. Aiming to win teamfight like NB.

I have analysed how DK lost the game. I remmeber commentators mentioned afterwards that ice3 actually pinged bot towers a lot of times but all others decided not to push while aegis is there.

I watch all the players perspective from DK players. Their defeat can be attributed in following points:

1) Burning was dead at mid in high ground. They killed lycan, centaur and witch doctor, leaving only Centaur and Batrider. Both of them were then stunned with bounces by rubick. At that point three heroes in radiant still had at least 60 sec of respawn cd. They decided not to finish off those stunned bat and alche, going for mid raxes.

Remarks: They should just kill both of them, without them it will be easier to clean up all buildings as lycan CW and bat didnt have buy back.

2) After top raxes were down, they retreated with still 28 cd on Lycan, 13 on CW and 23 on Witch. They decided not to finish bot tower with 30% health.

Remark: they could do it, with ice3 dmg and mushi dmg easily in just 5 sec (they have at least 28 sec more without lycan there). If the tower is down it would be infinitely easier for ice3 to finish the raxes while radiant was going all in or committing fights.

3) After they backed off, they started farming again. Ice3 was the only one with the desire to push tower at bot, the rest just smoking up to find ganks but failed twice with smoke. They had an aegis in mushi. Ice3 was juggling with couriers at bot and suddenly, burning decided to farm bottom creep waves, knowing all LGD players were at mid low ground. He still went. He got caught then rather easily , and he didn't use ulti. He thought he could be able to escape Bat's pull with 4s CD on dagger. In the end he died for really nothing (just like his weaver catching ppd arrow). This death was totally unnecessary.

4) Ice3 pinging them to push bottom, but mushi, mmy still hanging around top clearing jungle and once they saw Wolf alone at top, they both decided to kill it quick, so went in with Lahm just coming from behind. Ice3 was still at bot playing with courier and I guess Mushi, MMY didnt inform ice3 to come to help. From player's perspective, ice3 was still jungling actually waiting them to come bot and finding chances to finish off bot. But eventually, MMY died, Lahm died and Mushi died. Ice3 continued his farm. Just before that, Lahm thought he would finish off lycan easily when he was down to 15% health from Mushi burst on top lane, but suddenly Lycan activated armlet and came 1 hit stun, Lahm was flabbergasted. He had force staff to use but he didnt use it immediately when Lycan was coming to him, if he used Lycan would die as long as he sent an arrow to him right after force staffed.

Remarks: If they had communicated well, ice3 would have tped top to help gank Lycan when mush decided to go all in with mmy. They should have shouted ice3 to come at top, he didnt get any signal and was just watching top fight like there was no communication or any calls for him to come top. If he had come top, they would have finish Lycan easily and took the rest.

And burning wasn't even mentioned because he just respawned right before Mushi's death at top.

5) They continued to farm afterwards, without any plan to force pushing the bottom. At the same time, Lycan and Alche had obtained their abyssal, which was the crux for them. They just need it to finish off Mushi, alongside two halbergs.

Remarks: They should have all gone bottom lane to finish off the tower btu they chose not to, and Aegis expired on Mushi. It was time for LGD to come in. At this time, ice3 was a bottom jungle. The moment he saw all LGD players mid, he boots travelled back to his own base, instead of clearing off bottom waves and quickly forced push the tower (this would make LGD retreat), but instead, he went back, stored his BKB, took out Manta, and decided not to rat BOT but went to defend mid lane. Once he went out, he was caught by bat rider straight (he replaced BKB with manta) and he died immediately, he bought back but all his teammates were dying, then he tped top, and then next 10 secs, LGD already finished their throne.

So my verdict is that, when DK plays, they don't communicate well as a team. All their decision makings are rather individual. They don't talk much during gameplay, and because of this, they are alwasy caught offguards and being non-responsive on teammates gank/push decision (ice3 on top mushi gank on Lycan, and ice3 pinging to push bot couple of times).

Ice3 made very bad decision not to teleport straight to bot and finish those raxes, which he could with the damage output he had during the LGD snowballing at mid.

Buring was virtually non-existant in last 10 minutes which was the most crucial time. After his feeding at bot, he did nothing to help the team. He virutally threw.

Another thing is Mushi's item choice. His purpose on abyssal is to catch those heroes that try to TP away when they gank. This is only useful here. But at the first smoke gank on Bat, mushi didnt have the abyssal yet, so they failed at that time. when he had that abbysal, LGD all moved at one unit and fought as one unit, and Abyssal virtually had lost its purpose. The few second of stun during team fights are not worth it, he could have gone either desolator / divine / butterfly / MKB (which I prefer butterfly) for the extra evasion or divine for extra burst. In all subsequent teamfights after the top ganking failures on Lycan, Mushi posed very low threats in all fights (he was abyssal bladed TWICE during mid fight on dire).


My final thoughts: DK doesn't operate well as a team. There is an inherent lack of team decision and all the individual decisions are rather costly ( all the individual mistakes by Burning on recent games, all the decision makings that don't sync well with teammates ). Their lack of leadership and team communication on their decisions are appalling and evident in their last few fights.

I believe that they will be knocked out by LGD if they don't work as a team now, and judging from their plays so far, they will be happily disbanded.

Ice3 and Mushi have lost their individuality (they compromised alot, they didn't do what they thought they should do, because they were restricted by likes of Burning, Lahm and MMY). Many times their intuitions told them to do this or that, but they stopped because their teammates would be against it.

This sums up DK potentially last second match on current roster.

i think is mix thai chinese. u can check 2009 photo