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Investment PANORAMA RESIDENCES @ KELANA JAYA, Ultimate Prestige Living in Kelana Jaya

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post Jul 23 2018, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(JasonLeeX @ Jul 23 2018, 09:22 PM)
Don't need to LCLY bro

Anyway, I've met with one of my friend working for UBG Bhd (parent of loh and loh), I've understood more about the project liao, it is not that great of a deal compared to other project that I've mentioned ...considering what he told me when comparing apple to apple (basically quality/price in comparison). It's like Toto vs Johnson Suisse for toilet bowl (i don't know much about these stuff but it seems that Toto is like the high end brand for toilet stuff?) ... basically premium vs affordable finishing...I've also heard some very interesting story about the company itself..
I saw you've already signed the SnP.... Good Luck  biggrin.gif
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Trust me there is no developer that give you toto like quality when compared to other johnson suisse quality in malaysia.

Even 4seasons also built by cina mari contractor.

To me loh n loh is ok developer. Not too shabby. Other that you meantioned definitely not toto type quality.


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post Aug 10 2018, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(twom @ Aug 10 2018, 11:55 AM)
There is SA of the projects in this forum. Last time I went to the sales gallery, golf view almost finished.
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I thought they have at least 2 golf courses nearby...if not 3
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post Sep 13 2018, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(twom @ Sep 13 2018, 08:41 PM)
Title commercial but development full residential under HDA. After VP,  developer will help to change to residential and i don't think no issue because development is fully residential and not even one retail or shop.

In my opinion this project overall is much better than ryan n miho.
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I think its not that

The original usage was residential. Developer changed to commercial so that they can increase plot ratio. Thats why no need to provide retails. Hda or not got nothing to do with land title. As long as you are building residential units you can have schedule h spa hence its protected under hda.

Tis is a restricted freehold development.
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post Sep 20 2018, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(twom @ Sep 20 2018, 01:09 PM)
Passed by the project too. They put up a sign stating co.pletion 19th June 2021. There are works progress on site.

Any buyer here?
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Haiz...loh n loh...
Fishy company.

Cina owned then sold to middle easterner then hearsay jhlow got share then hearsay will swap w mainlander as part of ercl.

Dare not touch
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post Sep 20 2018, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(zzstormriderzz @ Sep 20 2018, 03:29 PM)
As long as the project is delivered, who cares whether it's fishy/ non-fishy company ? tongue.gif
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Rite.....as long.....

See if there is any cement n brick on site.
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post Sep 23 2018, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(gReen aXe @ Sep 22 2018, 05:44 PM)
I thought it'll take 4years..?
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1 yr land clearing and doing foundation.

2 5yrs building structure.

0.60yr road servicing and others
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post Sep 28 2018, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(newbiefinder @ Sep 28 2018, 02:34 PM)
1) If the title is commercial, it is commercial usage. It is based on the title. There is nothing called "Usage" in planning term or land title.

2) Developer doesnt need to convert to commercial to increase plot ratio, if still residential, to increase "density" (commercial uses the term "plot ratio" )

3) No need to provide retail? this statement looks a bit out. Increase plot ratio and no need to provide retails are 2 separate issues.
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I shall let other more qualified or professional in this field to comment.
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post Oct 4 2018, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(xtracooljustin @ Oct 4 2018, 05:08 PM)
If land category is commercial, any building meant for residential shall only be called serviced residence. The built up is controlled by plot ratio.

If land category is residential, a strata building meant for residential can then be called flat, apartment or condominium. Residential land is restricted by density ie units per acre.
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Thks for explanation.

For commercial land resi development, are shoplots or/and offices compulsory?
Why some developments can exclude such elements?

What is the highest units per acre allowed under current system for resi land development?
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post Oct 5 2018, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(xtracooljustin @ Oct 5 2018, 02:47 PM)
Under certain planning guidelines, for example, Selangor planning guidelines, shop or retail component can be allowed in Service Apartment developments up to max 30% of GFA if im not mistaken. Normally, developer will add in office component just to give variation and differentiation in product.
Depends on the gazetted local plan. You will have to refer to the local authorities. But as far as I know, Im aware that 120units per acre especially in RUMAWIP developments are quite common.
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Taiko

I dun think the words are 'can be'

It is "have to include".
Bcos its commercial land. All developers must have the element of commercial.

You think developers like to sell resi w shoplots n offices? Most service apartments ground floor all look so kelian de...
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post Oct 5 2018, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(JasonLeeX @ Oct 5 2018, 07:51 PM)
You do know pandora and paloma is under residential title right? That is why the entire area of metropark is called "mixed title"

The land itself was an industrial land but tropicana convert the land over and since they are doing that.. might as well segregate residential and commercial.
Whereas you can't convert a land which is presently an area of commercial to residential just for yourself.
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thks Jason.

where i dont know any particular history abt a piece of land, you guys can google a piece of write up by a local llawyer.

if a piece of land was originally residential n the developer converted to commercial, there is no need for commercial element. case: setia sky residences.

otherwiise there is no escape of providing shops n office if its a commercial land.

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post Oct 8 2018, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(kimzee @ Oct 8 2018, 05:47 PM)
I am a buyer. Initially was looking at  Sunway Serene or Highpark Suites, but this property closer to MRT and to me is better buy for investment.
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Lrt not mrt.

I also think tis project location is better than the two u mentioned.

But within walking distance tak ada non halal food and the developer is in question.
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post Oct 13 2018, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(newbiefinder @ Oct 13 2018, 10:20 AM)
i m very doubt this BOLD statement is correct..it is not compulsory to build retails at the lower floors.

the purpose why the developer builds the retail shops at the lower floors for serviced apartments...it is because rarely ppl will buy ground floor for staying..a better bet by developer is to build retail shops at the lower floors  ...
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Like i said go google an articke writren by a lawyer.

Am not law maker n i dun write law.. just share wat i read.

See southbrookes...how many low floor units atill avaible?
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post Oct 23 2018, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(yjtan15 @ Oct 22 2018, 11:06 PM)
any further updates on the site?

by the way this project is under HDA right? so the chance of being abandoned is lower?
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this is a residential land title, restricted freehold and no shops on ground floor.
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post Oct 23 2018, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(JasonLeeX @ Oct 23 2018, 12:33 AM)
Abandon is up to developers capability and nothing.

HDA may protect the buyers but if a developer go bust or run away with the money, who is going to refund you anything? GOV?
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HDA protected project lah taiko...

how can developer run away with your money???

they can only claim from you/bank after completion of stages. you are paying what they have completed the work.

yes, the risk of abandonment will still be there, but you got what you paid for, even if its half complete.

if you look at the progressive payment schedule, only the 1st 10% signing of spa you have nothing physical. from 10% onwards to 70%, the building is almost completed jor.
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post Oct 24 2018, 06:21 AM

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QUOTE(Tan&tan @ Oct 24 2018, 04:05 AM)
Previously developer appoint agency to sell . Now they sell at Their own maybe sales to good they don’t want to cut cost and sell at their own btw I’m One of the owner .
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Tantan congrat......

I grew to like old subang airport road but never found one sam sui development there....
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post Oct 24 2018, 10:17 AM

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I think there are two golf courses.

saujana and KL something golf course?

the road in front of condo not busy. its the old subang airport road that jam, bcos ppl cant decide which lane to stick to...they just want the fastest lane and cut queue at last minute.

THIS condo got EVERYTHING I am looking for EXCEPT non halal food within walking distance.

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post Oct 24 2018, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(A.B.D. @ Oct 24 2018, 10:50 AM)
boss, non halal can always open at kelana business centre when there is demand

to have everything you want except that is very good already, it is not a permanent issue like geographical, terrain, land tenure, cemetery and other buildings that create noise, traffic jams issues etc.
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i know taiko....

am just pick bones nia....a bit of a prick...try not to commit therefore find faults. there is no perfect property.

BTW long time i havent been to KBC. is there non halal food there now?

actually I am more concern about Loh&loh.
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post Oct 26 2018, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(pilotHans @ Oct 26 2018, 10:56 AM)
1. mcm panorama yg satu lagi jer ni  biggrin.gif
2. put curtains . 2 or 3 layers. even the street noise u can avoid  flex.gif  normally in good hotels do u even hear the noise outside? biggrin.gif
3. unless the balcony is huge and u hang out at the balcony most of your time, which brings me to the point..what a view to see a golf course. hope they is a 100 years least on that golf course. laugh.gif
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2... hotels mostly got double glaze. singapre airport transit hotel is the BESTEST. you cant even feel you are sleeping next to runway.
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post Oct 26 2018, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(pilotHans @ Oct 26 2018, 09:52 AM)
Type A 749sqf 2+1. RM753psft .
yup. around this pricing
+ yes indeed,i comes to personal preference + budget of coz. Thanks for having details on other near surrounding projects.  :thumbsup:
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actually tis pano not cheap at all......1000psf.
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post Oct 28 2018, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(newbiefinder @ Oct 28 2018, 09:48 PM)
Title PT5197, HS(D) 315718, Section 40, Bdr Petaling Jaya
Syarat syarat nyata : Bangunan Perniagaan.
It is freehold with a restriction/consent imposed at the title.

Is this clear ur earth?
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If this panorama no shoplots or office on ground and 1st floor, confirmed original plan was residential but developer converted to commercial to increase the plot ratio.

Suidai thinks nia. I often wrong de.

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