Unfortunately Malaysian students have adapted to that method of learning ever since they are young. Lucky enough that I chose to learn by myself in the beginning of my form 6 and teachers are more like a guidance to me. In my opinion, tuition is the biggest culprit that causes spoon-feeding education on going even in pre-university education. I think the engineers in the future would only think of which formula to apply instead of using their critical and creative thinking skills to solve problems.

This post has been edited by crazywing26: Sep 3 2014, 08:42 PM

Thumbsup!

Lol, whereas I don't understand how some students could score 4.00 and they take all science subjects. (Phys, Bio, Chem, Maths T). I think you are doing great with your results, a whole lot better than mine. Maybe can consider to retake Biology Term 2.

Because we are all lack of MUET teacher.
Not that much since, like I told you, I was only taught a few basics and my level of writing is just Form 5. I pretty much follow anything that is found in Longman reference book.



She has been teaching for 8 years in SPM Chemistry. Cathode and anode is pretty much a SPM level. It wasn't my group that asked her that question. I was happened to be nearby to hear the conversation. So, yes, it was quite shocking to find out she didn't know which one. And no, I'm not expecting her to be able to teach F6 syllabus. It's just sometimes she messed up basic things, it's kinda hard to listen to her in the class.


In between of spoon-feeding > understand better or non-spoon feeding > fail exam, I would rather choose spoon feeding. I tried to study on my own in STPM Term 1 and it didn't come out that well. What solution I could come out with? Tuition. But could I said half-half? I studied on my own for Biology and Pengajian Am. Well, actually I studied on my own during SPM except for Maths & Add Maths. It's just in STPM, there is no choice for me but to get tuition.


This post has been edited by moonnightsilver: Sep 3 2014, 09:18 PM

Nowadays, students are just expecting to obtain good result to hope for a better future(?). And they have lost interest in the process of learning. Personally I think that students nowadays are not even learning. They are studying like mad just for a better outcome. Is the outcome so important that students should prioritise the result rather than enjoy learning and going through the hardship by themselves or with friends. I also think that tuition has already lost its main purpose, even most top scorers (in KL) score well relying a lot on tuition notes while thinking that how horrible their teachers are in school. Or worse, I witnessed that the 2014/15 batch of form six in my school tend to show disrespect to teachers thinking that they are useless thinking that the tutors are the best teachers.

Would you teach your future generation to feed themselves or feed them until you are gone? Ask yourself. Sorry if I offended you but I can't stand on spoon-feeding education as the best solution. Or maybe I am being too sensitive.

This post has been edited by crazywing26: Sep 3 2014, 09:41 PM

Okay, advice accepted.

Agreed with you..

I had a cousin who scored 3As in A-levels, and now she's doing medicine in an IPTS. She told me that it's mostly spoon feeding for her course. When I asked her whether would she prefer spoon-feeding or not, she said of course she preferred spoon feeding.

My classmates also told me that most students also only study for the sake of exams, not really for the sake of learning..

So yeah, sad to say, I assume most of the top scorers don't really care much about the process of learning(I don't deny that I'm a victim of this too).

Call me dumb or stupid(or whatever) if you want too.

That's unexpected, given that you've never even praised or complimented me before.

I praise you for having the courage to follow your heart and intuition

Thanks for sharing another heartbreaking story.

One thing your classmates probably don't know is that some job interviews today involve written test. The tests are conducted to make sure that the candidates have certain types of knowledge and skills, because some employers have determined that that’s an important factor to know whether the candidates are the right fit for the job. If the candidates don’t do well on that test, that’s not just a sign for the employers not to hire them, it’s also a sign for themselves that this isn’t the right job for them.

Our education systems at Primary & Secondary schools are designed in such a way, that students do not have to show any initiative. As long as they just follow the instructions of their teachers, they will be somewhat “Okay”. The students just have to consume the “food” when instructed “Open wide,” without having a second thought whether the food is healthy or harmful. Most of the work is about memorizing, and that is what they will do just before their exams, to have forgotten most of that material within one or two weeks.

Perhaps, it's time to encourage maximR to give a TED talk at TED×Teen 2015.

This is easy to talk about in theory, but it’s more fun to about in practice.

(1) Would you share with me and your juniors about your study techniques?

(2) Many students wasted their time slogging through confusion. How did you break through the frustration barrier?

(3) Is it possible to acquire a new knowledge or pick up a math skill less painfully?

(4) How did you invest your time wisely in study and everything else?

I know some of you are probably just venting about your teachers, but keep in mind that they're human too and most of them gave good intentions. They might seem nasty and prepare too many exercises, but at least they care enough to do so. Some aren't the best teachers, but that doesn't mean they didn't try their best.

At the start of Form 6, I was a little envious of the more elite schools in my area because their teachers were just so good (subjective though). After a while, I realised that, hey, most of my class don't bother with my teachers and instead rely on they tuition classes, so why not get a little closer with my subject teachers? Thus, they became personal tutors who I go to when I need guidance. I had the luxury of being able to call them for A LOT of extra classes

I think I know which school you're referring to. You're from PJ right?

Just found out from my MUET teacher about the statistics for the latest MUET exams results:

Band 4: 6 students

Band 3: 29 students

Band 2: 28 students

Total candidates for the MUET exams: 63 students. None even achieved a score of Band 5 and above.

While we're on it, I'd like to congratulate yellowpika for achieving an amazing Band 5 in her MUET test. Your hard work has paid off!

Thank you! I think I'm just lucky to get a Band 5.

Elite schools don't necessarily have good teachers. Some teachers in elite schools are transferred in from other schools while some teachers in elite schools are transferred out to other ordinary schools.

There's nothing special about elite schools except the students. Trust me I am an elite school graduate and I've been taught by many new teachers transferred from other schools and they are all still great.

The young graduate teachers, and especially *a*hem, are however totally devoid of quality and don't deserve to be teachers. Sorry, this is just the truth.

Would you clarify this statement, please?

It's kind of vague actually... Initially for Maths T, my teacher insisted that the entire syllabus of first term Maths come out in the trials. But, not too long ago, I got confirmation from her that there was a change in plans and that only the final chapter(Vectors) be excluded from the test. I didn't receive any word from my PA teacher so far pertaining to the coverage of the PA chapters in the trial exams. As for Physics and Chemistry, I will only get the answers and some conformations on next week.

I don't know if it's just me or what, but whenever I think of the upcoming trials, I'll always get the inconceivable sense of foreboding...

It's hard not to agree. No. It's okay to state your opinion and I agree spoon feeding is not the best solution. But I guess seeing for example, my situation it was the only way or you could say it's a temporary solution. However, I do believe that learning is a never ending process.

I might sound silly or somewhat. But oh well.
It's an advice taken from Chemistry teacher. My results aren't one of the top scorer so I don't want to brag too much. Just wanna share it out.

Was digging through old files in my computer and I came across IELTS exercises I scanned for my friend early this year. I hope it'll give you guys a good impression of what to expect of the external tests you might opt for after STPM.

http://www.4shared.com/rar/p_uhQgOFba/IELTS.html

*I hope I uploaded it right...*

I heard from my form teacher that those students from elite schools are more hardworking than those from ordinary schools, and that's why their results are much better.

Is that true?

Like I said, it is easy to talk about in theory, but it’s more fun to talk about in practice.

In reality, many students wasted their time slogging through confusions and doubts, trying to understand a concept or learn a new skill.