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 WTA Want to build muscle and lose weight., 185cm tall, 103kg, body fat 29%

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TSFreestyling
post Jun 9 2014, 10:35 PM, updated 12y ago

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Hello to all.

i just started my gym last month and been consistently training 4-5 days a week.

Now I have some question just to make sure i am going to the right path.

My goal is to get slimmer and at the same time retain/build muscles.
I am 185cm, 103kg and currently with 29% fat.

my training is to follow through a weight training program, and also maintain a daily calories deficit of -15%-20%.
program such as this 4 weeks program
Can I lose weight gradually and won't lose my muscle (or maybe even gain more muscle)?

any opinion?

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post Jun 10 2014, 11:44 AM

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At your weight the first 10kg-15 kg or so should be easy to lose. It'll get harder as you move closer and closer to your lower body fat range.

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post Jun 10 2014, 12:15 PM

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target losing weight to below 85kg first before thinking of building muscle.
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post Jun 10 2014, 05:18 PM

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yes bro, you can lose the excess fat first. after that, you can focus on building some serious muscle. good luck...
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post Jun 10 2014, 06:40 PM

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with current weight, it's so much easier to lose weight by fixing your diet alone.
TSFreestyling
post Jun 11 2014, 12:00 AM

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thanks for all the advises!

will work harder ... control my diet and at the mean time continually working out!


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post Jun 11 2014, 10:51 AM

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control diet with deficit calorie intake plus moderate weight training 5days/week wont lose the muscle? i hv same situation with TS. want to lose some excess weight.

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TSFreestyling
post Jun 11 2014, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(habibz84 @ Jun 11 2014, 10:51 AM)
control diet with deficit calorie intake plus moderate weight training 5days/week wont lose the muscle? i hv same situation with TS. want to lose some excess weight.
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just share what I've found



I think this is good..
lose the fat first and don't be so calculative in the muscle lose at the beginning..

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post Jun 11 2014, 04:30 PM

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yeah, elliott hulse. he got some solid advice there!
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post Jun 11 2014, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(fariddarif @ Jun 11 2014, 04:30 PM)
yeah, elliott hulse. he got some solid advice there!
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i heard he mention atkin diet. is this diet safe? i think this diet will cause some muscle lose. sweat.gif
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post Jun 13 2014, 02:46 PM

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Bro, I would just train hardly to build up my strength and muscle if I were you. Ideally, you have perfect height with perfect weight. This is what I want now T_T
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post Jun 13 2014, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(habibz84 @ Jun 11 2014, 04:50 PM)
i heard he mention atkin diet. is this diet safe? i think this diet will cause some muscle lose.  sweat.gif
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yes, you definitely need a little carbs to ensure your body isn't in a deficit state.
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post Jun 13 2014, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(Freestyling @ Jun 11 2014, 03:24 PM)
just share what I've found



I think this is good..
lose the fat first and don't be so calculative in the muscle lose at the beginning..
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how about milk. does milk consider sugar drink?

you know after workout and you take one cup of choc milk. man it taste like heaven.
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post Jun 13 2014, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(iceman31 @ Jun 13 2014, 08:17 PM)
how about milk. does milk consider sugar drink?

you know after workout and you take one cup of choc milk. man it taste like heaven.
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yes choc milk is a sugar drink, normal plain milk is not a sugar drink
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post Jun 13 2014, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(adamwjs @ Jun 13 2014, 08:17 PM)
yes choc milk is a sugar drink, normal plain milk is not a sugar drink
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so is it gud to take it or i should avoid it when cutting?
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post Jun 13 2014, 11:37 PM

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Define "sugar drink" . Milk itself is sugar btw . Rice is sugar , etc...
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post Jun 14 2014, 05:48 AM

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sugar drink or what it doesnt matter.
read the nutritional value for the calorie and mind your target.
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post Jun 14 2014, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(iceman31 @ Jun 13 2014, 08:29 PM)
so is it gud to take it or i should avoid it when cutting?
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no you should not take milk when cutting.

QUOTE(kshen @ Jun 13 2014, 11:37 PM)
Define "sugar drink" . Milk itself is sugar btw . Rice is sugar , etc...
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lactose is a natural unrefined simple sugar though. Really good stuff
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post Jun 14 2014, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(adamwjs @ Jun 14 2014, 12:40 PM)
no you should not take milk when cutting.
Why can't take milk when cutting? Stop misleading people!
Cutting is based on how much calorie intake not what food you take.

Let say someone TDEE is 2500kcal.
If he take ONLY chicken breast, broccoli and brown rice, total = 3000kcal, he still gain weight.
If he take ONLY milk, total = 2000kcal, he still lose weight.

The problem is taking same food will cause imbalance in macronutrient and micro. That's why ppl suggesting taking different variety of protein, carb and fat source.
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post Jun 14 2014, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(-ccy- @ Jun 14 2014, 03:24 PM)
Why can't take milk when cutting? Stop misleading people!
Cutting is based on how much calorie intake not what food you take.

Let say someone TDEE is 2500kcal.
If he take ONLY chicken breast, broccoli and brown rice, total = 3000kcal, he still gain weight.
If he take ONLY milk, total = 2000kcal, he still lose weight.

The problem is taking same food will cause imbalance in macronutrient and micro. That's why ppl suggesting taking different variety of protein, carb and fat source.
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lol, it seems that you've got the wrong idea. Yes you should have a low calorie intake. But that doesn't mean i can eat 2500Kcal of pizza alone everyday or even milk. Why? well, thats for you to figure out. A healthy cutting phase would be 40% carbs / 40% protein / 10% fats

I recommended that he should not take milk because milk has an average of 50 Kcal per 100 grams. Imagine if he drank a cup of 500ml milk in the morning. That would be 250 Kcal which is 10% of his TDEE just in a glass of milk.

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