Maybe they want to milk the first gen digital transmitters in Klang Valley for all it's worth first? Say only no digital in Klang Valley, actually DVB-T1 signal has been transmitting since 2006... Only difference is other states getting DVB-T2 instead first, before Klang Valley shut off T1 transmitters and force people to buy T2 tuners...

Only downside is Klang Valley cannot get HD, or will get HD in a form that some STBs cannot support (ie "Australian HD"- where MPEG-2 1080i signal is transmitted over DVB-T1 instead of H.264 over DVB-T2 like other countries, ie what they did for the 2008 Olympics).

Make it so.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Jun 6 2014, 01:00 AM

I don't think so. I think those are owned by RTM themselves, since they only carry RTM signal.

And I thought they agree that they will not be transmitting TV on frequency above 700MHz already so can free up to telco and use to allow roaming for US visitors (and those foolish enough to buy AT&T MiFi which cannot support 2.6GHz LTE)

Not really. The problem with HyppTV and ABN is most households tend to have more than one TV. So far neither have plans for supplementary boxes. So the TV in the hall will have ABN, HyppTV, etc. But the one in the bedroom will need some other method (unless Android TV box or STB output splitting is used, and STB output splitting has it's own problems- ie the two TVs are forced to watch the same channel). Also there are Luddites that are perfectly happy with terrestrial and don't want Pay TV- my parents are among of them.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Jun 6 2014, 01:11 AM

Another thing is, even Klang Valley has a lot of "blind spots". Meru and Kapar, for example. Even today still don't have either ABN or UniFi, especially if it's housing estate outside of town area.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Jun 6 2014, 01:24 AM

True, true.

I agree with this. Instead of giving only to eligible, they should give a RM100 voucher to everyone. Even rich country like US give voucher to every citizen during their Digital transition. And I mean everyone. My friend got a voucher, and so did his mother who lived in the same house.

It's not like the decoders are expensive anyway. They only got US$20 voucher, and that's enough to get a baseline no-HD decoder with only analog out which is more than enough for most people who still using CRT TV.

Also, those with certain TV sets ie. the Sony W804A TVs, are already prepared- those can receive T2 signals out of the box.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Jun 6 2014, 03:12 PM

Talking rots again. No way we can be a broadcasting hub. We are the last one to turn off Analog (Other Asian countries turning off in 2015. Malaysia 2016). Add in censorship and monopoly there is zero chance. Censorship stifles creativity, monopoly destroys the economy.

Eh, the 4K broadcast is not for consumer consumption. There is no final transmission standard can handle 4K in fact. All digital TV standards currently cap out at 1080i. Not even 1080p. The 4k broadcast is just a trial by several standards bodies with no finalized specifications.

Besides, last two World Cup transmissions have HD feed, but only on assteruk...

Because Malaysia analog standard is PAL? DVB-T is primarily optimized for PAL countries.

Apparently only countries whose analog standard is NTSC is choosing ISDB-T or ATSC. Actually I'm puzzled as to why Philippines chose ISDB-T instead of ATSC like South Korea.

Then they launch own transmitter in Selangor only...

+1

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Jun 7 2014, 02:31 PM

Actually, those are from the T1 trial signal transmitting from KL Tower since 2006. My LG TV which only has T1 tuner can also receive that.

But yes, in final phase signal will be T2. I suspect that they will shut off the T1 transmitters by then.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Aug 15 2014, 10:29 PM

There is two flaws to ISDB from what I can see

Firstly, it means switching our workflow over to 60Hz. Malaysia historically uses 50Hz. ISDB is a 60Hz system. Cameras have to be changed (not a problem if the studio hasn't upgraded to HD yet, but if they have, it will be an expensive exercise to replace the 50Hz HD cam with 60Hz ones), and then lighting because using 60Hz camera with 50Hz lighting causes flicker. Converter equipment to play back older 50Hz PAL archived material will be needed at TV stations. Ultimately it will need TNB to change our country to 60Hz power just to eliminate flicker, which will cause issues with equipment hard wired for 50Hz like air conditioning, ice cream maker and even fridge.

Secondly, ISDB requires use of mandatory license cards (B-CAS card), which equals bringing back TV license. While I don't mind paying for license if it will increase the quality of the TV shows airing, I do mind the risk that the money will only get songlap.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Aug 15 2014, 11:10 PM

Yes, but my point is, for us to adopt ISDB will require lots of changes to the country's infrastructure, even seemingly unrelated ones like power (otherwise if ISDB camera record anywhere still using 50Hz, light will be flickering because camera frame rate which is 60Hz cannot sync up with our 50Hz lighting). Also, ISDB mandates use of license card like assteruk which I'm not very fond of. DVB has license card implementation, but so far it's been optional.

As for mobile, well, most of us prefer IPTV solution on mobile anyway, since our mobile broadband infra is actually quite good.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Aug 15 2014, 11:31 PM

That's not the point.

Take your PS3 Eye, set it to NTSC, point it are flourescent light. This is the flickering that will knock ISDB flat in Malaysia. The reason for the flickering is straightforward- the camera, to meet ISDB official spec, has to work at 60Hz. Our Malaysian lighting operates at 50Hz. The flickering is caused by the camera sampling rate not matching the light flicker rate(fact: flourescent lights are actually flickering 50 times a second). Sure, some cameras can compensate for that by adjusting their frame rate then use an internal DSP to pull it back to 60 Hz, but there will be sharpness tradeoff. Only other option is for the whole country to change to 60Hz, or adopt DC lighting like LED lighting, overnight.

Also, mandatory B-CAS means that license will be forced upon the rakyat. I don't like the idea of being forced to pay license unless the songlap stops and I know that my money will be put into bringing in quality programming. After the MACC revealed corruption and songlap in RTM recently, I am not holding my breath.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Aug 17 2014, 10:31 PM

They mention nothing about MHEG Digital Teletext. However they did mention that HBB and CatchUp TV will be a possibility eventuality, so not sure how they're going to go about it.

This I agree. But my big problem with them is they're dubbing English shows (especially cartoons) to Malay. That have to stop. You can dub Japanese to Malay, or Korean to Malay, but please leave English shows as-is. Either that or learn to use the NICAM system they already have to transmit bilingual.

I'm more like thinking they're going to reimplement TV license using DVB-CI

Second generation teletext is also only for Analog systems, so implementing it then shutting down a year later is not feasible. I hope Infonet and Beriteks comes back as MHEG Digital Text services tho- I really miss teletext. Even when I already had Internet, I still relied on Teletext for EPG and time/date. Also some times used it to see plane schedules. My mom is the heaviest user of Text, use it to play her saham on KLSE. It was a great loss when RTM then TV3 shut it down.

Back in the day before Internet became affordable, every single TV in my house has Teletext. Even now all my TVs still support teletext (apparently Teletext is still being transmitted in Singapore so TV made for both markets still support it). Only that there has been no transmission since Media Prima shut down Infonet.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Aug 19 2014, 12:42 PM