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 Subaru Legacy, Is it worth it compared to Conti?

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zenockl85
post Jun 3 2014, 09:11 PM

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Just search around legacy owner is the car always break down and need to change parts?
Subaru now already different from pass 20years ~ any spare parts unavailable in Malaysia , SG sure got keep stock ~
MI in SG is the HQ for handle Southeast Asia market ~

main different technology in Legacy compare with other Dsegment car in market is symatrical AWD system ~ no any car in market Dsegment car are using it ~
Symatrical AWD naturally already giving u a good handling with minimum electronic parts~ that is what of value u buy a Subaru ~
zenockl85
post Jun 3 2014, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 3 2014, 09:02 PM)
Sleepwalker,

Do you mean it is very difficult to get spare parts of Legacy? That is a huge turn-off then....

I am looking at MI version of course, I am not a car enthusiast hence I know not of grey importers.

Some respondent suggest me to get the STi instead as a weekend car, if that is the case.... how does this compare to Golf R or Focus ST? I have been trawling the internet so i know little bit but not enough to make informed or definitive decision yet.... They are all in the similar price range.

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This need ur serious take consideration le~ laugh.gif

legacy is family car with performance ~
Impreza WRX STI is performance car can Carrie family ~
zenockl85
post Jun 3 2014, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 3 2014, 09:19 PM)
That is the problem, no one around me or my circle of friends has any idea about Subaru. When I tell them about Legacy, they say I crazy liao!

My father in his 70's said Subaru of yesteryears were good car, problem in Malaysia cannot get parts, that is why they lost market share here.

But the saving grace is if I have a Legacy, I know that I get to drive a luxury marque without advertising to the world I am rich hence rob me, and that is something comforting to know. To the unknown, a Legacy is just another car....

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Then u new ask oversea owner le ~ owner in Malaysia for buying a legacy all are experience a Subaru car before ~ normally customer buying without asking to much question cos their already know what their are buying ~


zenockl85
post Jun 4 2014, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jun 4 2014, 10:53 AM)
It is not about always breaking down. Car parts will eventually breakdown whether it is a Subaru or a Proton. Parts will also wear out like the dampers/suspension and brake pads. Air con compressors will fail in the long run and steering racks will leak. Broken windscreen takes MI weeks to get from SG or even Japan. My leaky steering rack was quoted about RM8000 and about one week to get from MI but I managed to source from halfcut for much much less. My car could no longer be driven since all the power steering fluid will leak out in 10 mins of driving. Luckily managed to get from half cut in half a day.

If the TS were to get anything from MI, I would suggest that a written guarantee is to be drafted between him and MI so that in the event that parts are not available, MI will provide a substitute car if his car needs to wait for parts. Imagine the outcry if Toyota and Honda owners had to wait for parts. Even if MI SG is available, the parts are not hand carried in and takes time.
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that I can't say le ~ for CBU car parts wait 1week also can't wait ,if compare to other brand need 1month then That brand can't buy le ~ maybe that ur daily car u can't wait and have to find half cut ~ yes half cut is cheap but is already use ,lucky u get good condition ,bad luck 1month need change again ~

Is good if MI got provide car for customer if wait for parts ~ currently I know is without that service la~ I think for honda and Toyota CBU car parts also need wait 1~2 weeks to get it if without stock ~
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post Jun 4 2014, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 4 2014, 01:48 PM)
Thanks for your honest feedback, really appreciate it man. I will stay far far away from MI products now.

BTW, I got a PM from a MI salesperson and he/she is offering the 2011 Legacy wagon at clearance price of RM215K. Nearly tempted. After hearing this from a real owner, I will run far far way!

Looks like it will be a Teana 2.5XV for me then.

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wait 1week time also can't and give out ,I also can't say anything le ~

Any where my offer for 2013 legacy sedan 207k OTR la ~
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post Jun 5 2014, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jun 5 2014, 09:02 AM)
Please note that most parts that wear out are 'CBU' parts. If you understand what CKD means, you'd know that important parts and parts that are difficult to source locally are knocked down and sent here for reassembly. Almost all the parts that I mentioned in my previous post are not CKD parts that is sourced locally. So that makes no difference whether the car is CKD or CBU.

Just like the XV now, it is CKD but majority of the parts under the hood like air-con compressor, steering rack, suspension, windscreen (low volume sales, very good chance it is not made locally) are very likely to be 'CBU' parts since it is not replaced with a locally made version.

CKD does not automatically means that most parts are local. You can knockdown the entire car, send it to Malaysia's assembly plant and just use local tyre and seats and that is considered as CKD while the rest of the car is original from overseas.
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bro as ur mention parts in ur wrs sti sure hard get in malaysia ,dun forget ur car is a CBU & performance car ~ is a good news for u also still can get at nearest country even though cant get in malaysia ~ at least u know where can find the new 1 and period to waiting ~ try compare with other brand CBU performance car see how long u need to wait ~

for XV as CKD car ~ yes majority parts is from japan ~ but for parts as u mention about as i know windscreen , absorbers, break pad , etc majorlity wear and tear parts also supply by local ~ all the CBU parts sure can least long time ~

u think go get a CKD project so easy meh ~ government so eazy approve u do CKD just import the parts and assembly here then sold as CKD price?? sure got some term and condition ~ if not XV can sell with current price with full spec version le ~

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post Jun 5 2014, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Jun 5 2014, 11:07 AM)
v10 does not have "dual transmission". I believe you meant DSG type but still not available on v10 or even v11. v11s are now using CVTs. Anyway, the v10s are using 5 speed autos.

It is a great car as it does fill all the criteria - family hatchback, performance based and practical for daily use. Been using it since 2010. The only downside is the FC. Don't expect good / great fuel economy from a 300bhp vehicle! I believe same goes with the Legacy too.

I had a call from a subaru SA to sell me a 2013 Legacy at a good price. Was tempted to change but... second thought, I decided to keep my v10 and be happy about it!

Why?

Simply because I love my v10 and I have 2nd and 3rd car to satisfy me on other areas such as FC, comfort etc.

Also, when I asked the SA about trade ins, he said he'll get high price trade ins. When he asked what car, and I replied v10, the next statement he made was hilarious - "Erm... better you sell it yourself lah". Being a scooby SA and not willing to take the challenge to get the high trade in price says a lot on the brand and the quality of their SAs.

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not the scooby SA dun wan sell at high price their also base by user car pricing ~ yes we have high trade in price ~ but not enough to cover ur expecting price ~

subaru legacy sure better FC if compare with WRX STI ~ legacy is a family car with performance ~ fuji heavy industry sure will consider about the FC of legacy ~
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post Jun 5 2014, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 5 2014, 02:34 PM)
If buy from grey mkt or second hand car dealer e.g. a used Legacy/WRX Sti ... MI will service or not? If not, go where for servicing?

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service is available for recond legacy ~ cos parts and oil are using same ~ should be no problem ~
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post Jun 6 2014, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(wayfeel @ Jun 5 2014, 09:04 PM)
Oooo I look. I thought is a 'shiftronic' type/ala dsg biggrin.gif sowri...

ya, fc is a serious concern if for daily ride Especially for those do sale one unless deep pocket.

Frens said scooby wrx /evo about to a little over 200km/fulltank on light weight foot?
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I pervious look around WRX STI ~ using ron97 around 45cent ~50cent per KM ~

Try ask bro sleepwalker
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post Jun 7 2014, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 6 2014, 03:58 PM)
Trawling and trawling the internet and the 2015 WRX is really cool. Actually more than cool! Darn itchy to get it, feels like want to go to MI this weekend and place my deposit liao. But after hearing the bad MI service and expensive maintanence... scare liao. Bola kecut!

Should I stay safe and just get the F3cking New Teana 2.5XV and be just an ordinary and regular Mat Joe.

Xuzen

P/S I F3cking want the red one!
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Normal service and maintenance is quiet reasonable price la for performance car~ if some thing parts broken or damage still can enjoy 5years warranty ~

try consider the 2015 Subaru WRX ~ sure different experience compare with normal sedan car ~
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post Jun 7 2014, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 7 2014, 10:44 AM)
Anything above RM250k  mad.gif and I am heading towards the Nissan showroom  blush.gif

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below 250k car u just can go to legacy le~ new WRX and STI will be more then than ~
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post Jun 14 2014, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 13 2014, 11:52 PM)
Golf GTI Tech Spec dropped RM 20K to be around RM 210K.... bye bye Subaru, if their WRX 2015 launch price is RM 250K.

VWM service center dekat dekat aje... no need for me to drive all the way to PJ for MI service center.

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Ooooo Noooooo doh.gif ~ im still wait the price come out ~

 

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