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whose magic trick do you prefer?
 
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TSChild of Light
post Jun 1 2014, 12:18 AM, updated 12y ago

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just watched "the prestige".. i know it's old movie, forgive my slow.. sweat.gif the whole movie is a magic trick.. illusion.. and at the end when i thought i already knew what trickery was going on and there wasn't anything more to reveal.. i got knocked around for a loop by the ending. total mind f***.

whose magic trick do you prefer? the professor's or the great danton's?
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post Jun 1 2014, 12:20 AM

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post Jun 1 2014, 12:27 AM

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what is there to explain ? great danton died
the professor has his own real dupe
whereas , danton make his duplicate through electricity ( like photostat machine )
at the end , the dupe and great danton died
dupe got hanged accused of killing the danton ( duplicate )
the professor revenge his dupe by killing the real danton
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post Jun 1 2014, 12:30 AM

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The whole tesla invention is really a turn off.

Prefer something more simple like the illusionist.
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post Jun 1 2014, 12:30 AM

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One of my all time favourite movies.didnt expect that kind of ending in the end because both of them are bad and good in the same time.

I prefer the professor because he devoted his life toward his career
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post Jun 1 2014, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(HarDiE @ Jun 1 2014, 12:30 AM)
The whole tesla invention is really a turn off.

Prefer something more simple like the illusionist.
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its doesnt even make any sense how can such device make a human duplicate
i also prefer the illusionist if it comes to magic/illusion movie
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post Jun 1 2014, 12:32 AM

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The real magician here is Tesla.
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post Jun 1 2014, 12:32 AM

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post Jun 1 2014, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(HarDiE @ Jun 1 2014, 12:30 AM)
The whole tesla invention is really a turn off.

Prefer something more simple like the illusionist.
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Prestige is more appealing because it wasn't "idealistic".

It represents how shit magicians in reality are.

Illusionist is just all the dressing with no substance, which ironically doesn't represent real magicians at all.
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post Jun 1 2014, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(Lancelot du Lac @ Jun 1 2014, 12:27 AM)
what is there to explain ? great danton died
the professor has his own real dupe
whereas  , danton make his duplicate through electricity ( like photostat machine )
at the end , the dupe and great danton died
dupe got hanged accused of killing the danton  ( duplicate )
the professor revenge his dupe by killing the real danton
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it's the reveal of the "real dupe" at the end that got me.. i didn't expect that at all.. when great danton got shot i thought it's just a simple revenge by the professor's aide.. but actually it's "himself".. rclxub.gif
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post Jun 1 2014, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Jun 1 2014, 12:33 AM)
Prestige is more appealing because it wasn't "idealistic".

It represents how shit magicians in reality are.

Illusionist is just all the dressing with no substance, which ironically doesn't represent real magicians at all.
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post Jun 1 2014, 12:56 AM

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well... using science fiction for movie like this is too vague... u can stretch anything without explanation.

just like movie now u see mee

but mindfucuk movies with simple unexpected theme is hard to come by like the illusionist or the usual suspect.

but i like the character build up in the prestige. but i choose the prof... bcoz he's a batman.

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QUOTE(emefbiemef @ Jun 1 2014, 12:32 AM)
The real magician here is Tesla.
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he ended up dead alone and spend his time speaking to pigeon
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post Jun 1 2014, 01:39 AM

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In the middle of the movie, Michael Caine's character already suggested to Great Danton that Borden's transported man trick involves a double, simple as that. Only Great Danton refuses to accept that it is that simple and let Borden leads him to a wild search in America.
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QUOTE(Child of Light @ Jun 1 2014, 12:18 AM)
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just watched "the prestige".. i know it's old movie, forgive my slow..  sweat.gif the whole movie is a magic trick.. illusion.. and at the end when i thought i already knew what trickery was going on and there wasn't anything more to reveal.. i got knocked around for a loop by the ending. total mind f***.

whose magic trick do you prefer? the professor's or the great danton's?
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i watched halfway but found it boring yawn.gif inception and exam are way better
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post Jun 1 2014, 01:47 AM

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Both The Prestige and The Illusionist are miles better than that awful Tony Leung film The Great Magician.
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post Jun 1 2014, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(ray123 @ Jun 1 2014, 01:47 AM)
Both The Prestige and The Illusionist are miles better than that awful Tony Leung film The Great Magician.
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this one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Magician
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QUOTE(Child of Light @ Jun 1 2014, 09:11 AM)
Yes. It started off promisingly enough and then swerved crazily into comedy and farce.
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QUOTE(Lancelot du Lac @ May 31 2014, 04:32 PM)
this
its doesnt even make any sense how can such device make a human duplicate
i also prefer the illusionist if it comes to magic/illusion movie
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google quantum physics.

look for einstein-rosen-podolsky (EPR) effect.

for layman, this whole thing may look like hocus pocus crap. but if u look deeper, the film dwells on the hostility between two great scientists of electricity: tesla vs edison (u can also look this one up. pretty cool rivalry, in which tesla lost). during the rivalry, both seek to out do each other. eventually, due in most part to edison's financial prowess, electricity we know today was grounded in what edison "believed" is true.

the film simply explores on what if tesla was correct? that all we believe about electricity and science in general is not exactly accurate?

so in the film, angier practices old school magic tricks, while danton pushed the boundaries of science that it becomes magical.
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post Jun 1 2014, 11:09 AM

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I would prefer if they stick to only pure illusion and pure magic tricks, instead of wtfbbq tesla duplicate machine..totally turn off..
But still an entertaining movie..
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post Jun 1 2014, 11:10 AM

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Are you also using the same machine to create your dupes dupe? did you kill off all your previous dupes or someone did it for you?


QUOTE(Child of Light @ Jun 1 2014, 12:34 AM)
it's the reveal of the "real dupe" at the end that got me.. i didn't expect that at all.. when great danton got shot i thought it's just a simple revenge by the professor's aide.. but actually it's "himself"..  rclxub.gif
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post Jun 1 2014, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jun 1 2014, 03:09 AM)
I would prefer if they stick to only pure illusion and pure magic tricks, instead of wtfbbq tesla duplicate machine..totally turn off..
But still an entertaining movie..
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but that's the best part!

it's supposed to be a teleportation machine. but one of the outcome of EPR effect is it creates a copy at the new site.

in star trek's transporter machine, ur body is disintegrated and reassembled at the new site.

here, it creates a copy at the new site, but the original remains at the old site.

this is why angier said his trick requires absolute courage, because he literally DIES at the end of every trick. only his copy lives on!
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post Jun 1 2014, 11:18 AM

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I prefer NXJ
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post Jun 1 2014, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Jun 1 2014, 11:18 AM)
don't expose la!
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ok ok shhhhhhh nod.gif
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post Jun 1 2014, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jun 1 2014, 11:17 AM)
but that's the best part!

it's supposed to be a teleportation machine. but one of the outcome of EPR effect is it creates a copy at the new site.

in star trek's transporter machine, ur body is disintegrated and reassembled at the new site.

here, it creates a copy at the new site, but the original remains at the old site.

this is why angier said his trick requires absolute courage, because he literally DIES at the end of every trick. only his copy lives on!
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Maybe that's just me, at first I thought Wow, a pure magic tricks movie, but suddenly science fiction kicks in.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jun 1 2014, 03:24 AM)
Maybe that's just me, at first I thought Wow, a pure magic tricks movie, but suddenly science fiction kicks in..  sad.gif
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y u no like scifi?
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jun 1 2014, 11:24 AM)
Maybe that's just me, at first I thought Wow, a pure magic tricks movie, but suddenly science fiction kicks in..  sad.gif
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yeah it felt kinda weird and it turn to a dark story
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post Jun 1 2014, 11:36 AM

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One of my all time favourite
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post Jun 1 2014, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jun 1 2014, 11:28 AM)
y u no like scifi?
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I love sc-fi movie, but at first Prestige was giving me the feeling that it will be a pure illusion and magic tricks movie, but suddenly it changes direction, it doesn't feel good.
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jun 1 2014, 03:51 AM)
I love sc-fi movie, but at first Prestige was giving me the feeling that it will be a pure illusion and magic tricks movie, but suddenly it changes direction, it doesn't feel good.
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so u got tricked? biggrin.gif
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post Jun 1 2014, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jun 1 2014, 11:53 AM)
so u got tricked?  biggrin.gif
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Guess so.. LOL blush.gif

But both the actor made the movie alive, their acting skills is superb, especially Christian Bale.. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Lancelot du Lac @ Jun 1 2014, 12:32 AM)
this
its doesnt even make any sense how can such device make a human duplicate
i also prefer the illusionist if it comes to magic/illusion movie
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The whole movie is about rivalry leading to deadly consequence. The electricity duplicate is the science fiction part. You have to realize Danton sacrifice even his life in order to outdo his rival. Remember what he said, he did not even know if the "real" him was going to die everytime he used Tesla machine to make a duplicate. Remember the machine was going to make a clone. There was two way this could work:

1. The machine teleported the original to a new destination, and left behind a clone.
2. The machine did not teleport the original to a new destination, but created a new clone in the new destination.

Since the magic trick would kill the person who was standing in the original spot, there was a 50% chance that everytime Danton used this trick, the "original" him would fell into the water tank and drown. And the clone, having the same memory of the original, would not know whether he was a new copy or the original Danton. But both the clone (or the original) would realize that he might have to kill himself in the next trick and agonized over it, and he could not stop himself because he wanted to outdo his rival.

The other rivalry portraited in the movie is the rivalry between the inventors Edison and Tesla, and that actually happened in real life.

The moral of the story is to teach you all not to be obsessed over winning so much.
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QUOTE(HITMAN316 @ Jun 1 2014, 01:39 AM)
In the middle of the movie, Michael Caine's character already suggested to Great Danton that Borden's transported man trick involves a double, simple as that. Only Great Danton refuses to accept that it is that simple and let Borden leads him to a wild search in America.
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Danton was obsessed to find the truth until he can't see what was in front of his eyes. That was the REAL tragedy of it all.
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QUOTE(HarDiE @ Jun 1 2014, 12:30 AM)
The whole tesla invention is really a turn off.

Prefer something more simple like the illusionist.
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QUOTE(Lancelot du Lac @ Jun 1 2014, 12:32 AM)
this
its doesnt even make any sense how can such device make a human duplicate
i also prefer the illusionist if it comes to magic/illusion movie
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It was, but that was secondary in the movie. The movie is to show the extend some people will take to "defeat" their competitors, until they lose... with their lives.
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Now I feel like wanna watch again!
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post Jun 1 2014, 12:19 PM

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at the end, Christian Bale aka the Professor indeed had a twin behind all these tricks which trolled Danton

my 2 cents summary
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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Jun 1 2014, 12:19 PM)
at the end, Christian Bale aka the Professor indeed had a twin behind all these tricks which trolled Danton

my 2 cents summary
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the only question i kept wondering is did the professor (christina bale) really has a twin or did he use tesla machine one time and create his twin/duplicate/clone?.

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