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post Feb 22 2015, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 22 2015, 12:01 AM)
DVI to DP connectors, rather rare to find in Msia, but it exists

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Though... that's a DP to DVI... it could be a cable pass-through... or a digital converter... but, I suspect the former...

I personally have one or 2 units (cable pass-through)...

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post Feb 22 2015, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 22 2015, 03:33 PM)
i thought it can go both ways? hmm.gif

correct me if im wrong though
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one way from the GC only...
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post Feb 24 2015, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Feb 23 2015, 08:31 PM)
Not possible to have DVI to DP. The world will be upside down if that were possible.  biggrin.gif
Possible... Digital to "another Digital" converter, powered, takes one signal and converts it to another.... cost, quite expensive.. money better spent on a new monitor...

example:
http://www.startech.com/AV/Converters/Vide...h-Audio~DVI2DPA

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post Mar 1 2015, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(James_yka @ Mar 1 2015, 12:02 AM)
Tried with exchanged cable... same result..

It seems the flickering start only with high resolution (full HD)...

Done a few testing, uninstalled the Driver (Clean) & booted up with the windows driver seems working fine...
Once i have installed the AMD driver the problem starts, i have 4 DP ports.
1st port was working fine until i installed the AMD driver and the monitor when blank, unplug and put on other port works with flickering...

I suppose its a faulty card... dont have any other monitor to test on...
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or faulty cable

...since it's just fullHD... there's the HDMI alternative...

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post Mar 5 2015, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(James_yka @ Mar 5 2015, 12:09 AM)
My monitor only has VGA, DVI & DP...
Bought the DP cable and the retailer would not refund, might as well just use with it...
Sometimes wouldnt notice the flickering, sometimes getting on my nerves...

If its the cable then it wouldnt explain why my monitor cant detect signal from 1 of the 4 ports...
Asus EAH6970
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If there is HDMI on you GC.... you can easily convert HDMI to DVI...
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post Mar 10 2015, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(money_rule @ Mar 8 2015, 04:47 PM)
hi
can a laptop with only hdmi and vga port support the native resolution of this dell U2913WM ?
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Nope.... it's not HDMI 2.0.... and a poor digital converter for the VGA signal...
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post Apr 13 2015, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(hsunl @ Apr 12 2015, 04:28 PM)
Hi, need some helps from the expect here. Appreciated and thank you very much in advance.

Can my Laptop capable of handle Dell U2515H monitor with setting 2560x1440 resolution and 60hz.
Connection is thru Laptop hdmi cable sad.gif
It is not for gaming purpose. Just for web surfing, working and reading.

My Laptop is Acer V3-571G, GT 730M 4GB and HD 4000( Primary). only VGA and HDMI available. In Nvidia control panel, there is no change resolution option as it is handled by Intel HD 4000 through Optimus.

Thank you so much ...
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You may need to drop the refresh rate to 55Hz...

http://www.notebookcheck.net/2560x1440-or-...MI.92840.0.html
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post Jul 13 2015, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(tolong_saye @ Jul 12 2015, 02:59 AM)
i have a question, if the lcd have dust/debris in between, can i claim the warranty?

its samsung 27 sd390, im sure its a debris/dust as before it only sit at the bottom of the lcd, after i move it into the box(moving away) it move to the middle of the screen..

i try to ketuk2 but it only move very slow and i afraid will damage the panel..
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I had an ant trapped in my lcd panel, I had to disassembled the whole panel, separated the frame holding multiple layers to remove the ant (man)...... and reassembled the panel and made it ant proof.... not advisable for novice users though...
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jan 25 2016, 08:36 AM)
actually i think 4k adoption is growing bigger and faster with 4k tv getting cheaper, tv are not that great compare to a monitor but some are very capable and works well for many people just as a display

i know cause im tempted, i saw a panasonic 40 inch 4k tv going less than RM2K..i seriously thinking of buying it until i remember my gpu does not have the horsepower to run it  laugh.gif
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Well with a TV most GC for the last 3 years could run it at 4k@30Hz through HDMI 1.4 protocol...

Running 4k@60Hz however is limited to GC or MB that supports HDMI 2.0.... which is only Nvidia's Maxwell or some Z170 MBs... or through USB C converted to HDMI 2.0....

There's also DP to HDMI 2.0 converters.... these however are rare and expensive....

Gaming @4k would require a pair of the highest-end card at least...

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 25 2016, 12:55 AM)
Just saw Dell U2417H listed in Dell Malaysia website,  but no pricing.

Anyone already know the pricing?
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You can shoot them an e-mail... or chat with their customer service...
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post Aug 30 2021, 04:57 PM

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Multi-monitor setup.... what most people are not aware of: the utilization of DP MST hub... increase display options...

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2 (2560x144@144Hz) 3 & 4 (3440x1440@120Hz)... all divided from 1 DP 1.4 port...


QUOTE(Traveler @ Aug 11 2021, 01:15 AM)
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Am looking at a triple 4K monitor setup with the 2 side monitors in portrait mode per attached photo. I plan to drive it from my future Alienware X15 laptop  with 2 monitors being driven via the TB4 port through a TB4 dock (dual 4K @60Hz) and the 3rd monitor directly from the laptop via the HDMI cable (4K @60Hz).
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The cost effective way would be using a MST hub that divides a single DP 1.4 to three 4k@60Hz monitors....all the monitors requires a DP input....

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QUOTE(Vincent6596 @ Aug 30 2021, 05:26 PM)
does all the monitor able to fully utilise to 144hz and 120hz with connected to the device u mention?
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yup... the 3440x1440 goes up to 144Hz (supported through stand-alone connection)... but limited to max 120Hz through the MST hub that I use... I should be able to push all three 3440z1440@120Hz (if I've a 3rd monitor.).
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QUOTE(Vincent6596 @ Aug 30 2021, 06:36 PM)
possible to share the device purchase link?
all monitor is running under extended mode?
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https://shopee.com.my/DisplayPort-v1.4-to-3...6434.3468914223

You can extend/mirror/clone.... just as if these monitors are connected individually to it's own output...
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post Oct 28 2021, 07:19 AM

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QUOTE(gacktleong @ Oct 26 2021, 06:04 PM)
any good 2k 27" with 75hz? 144hz will be a plus, but i dont need so high frame rate.

color accuracy is priority. RM1000-RM1400
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Lenovo G27Q-20... IPS goes to 165Hz... deals now....RM1.1k (with 10% CB in coins on shopee)....

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QUOTE(gacktleong @ Oct 28 2021, 09:15 AM)
ehhh? i coulnt find this deal, best i can find is rm1212  confused.gif
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QUOTE(toffy @ Jul 3 2022, 09:32 PM)
Thanks for your feedback.
For the sake of completion, on top of my previous reply, I need to give one more input.

I do agree that it is better to check the new 2 monitors side-by-side at a physical shop selling them. Hope the colour issues happen rarely? At the moment, I am trying to save by buying online. I guess I have to risk it a bit, haha.
Thanks for the insights.

In short, you are saying that it is best to use native resolutions and to hold on to the 4k monitors for now?
And to get the 4k ones once I have upgraded my GPU?
I don't have immediate plans to upgrade the GPU yet.


With the above said, I was thinking that 4k monitors are much cheaper now and are slightly more expensive than 1440p monitors of the same size for a similar config (27 inches).
So my initial thought was to future-proof it, just in case I am getting a new PC/laptop end of the year (with RTX 30 series) or early next year, making me ready by having my 'new' 4k monitors. Otherwise, my 'new' 1440p may become obsolete?

The choice of whether to upgrade to the soon-to-be-released RTX 40 series as my GPU, will be another story.

Your feedback about the current 4k monitors being not 'matured' yet and not of value yet, is indeed good feedback. I am considering these seriously.
Yes, fully agree. The GPU of a laptop cannot be upgraded. Not for typical end-users unless one is a hardcore person or professional that tinkers with the soldering and has access to mobile components to break the supported factory configuration... a super-risky thing that shouldn't be done. Better to upgrade those on a desktop one instead.

Another way is to use a eGPU, right? But that's more expensive and the return of investment may not be worth it because of the limited bandwidth of the connection (maybe TB4 or TB5 connectivity may address it) and the expensive eGPU case.

When I mentioned upgrading my GPU, I meant to say either I buy a new lappy or a desktop.

The laptop in discussion is a 2018 version with GTX 1060 6GB that comes with a mini dual-mode DP, an HDMI 2.0 port, and a USB Type-C Thunderbolt that provides DP output. I hope that means it can connect to 3 external monitors via 1 HDMI port and 2 DPs? Both the DPs are of version 1.2.

I am going for a minimum of 60Hz for all my external monitors.

To clarify, I have an existing 34-inch 3440X1440 UW as the main external monitor. I am thinking of getting 2 units of 27-inch 1440p as 2nd and 3rd external monitors (portrait) for productivity reasons (or is this overkill?). Then it dawned on me that, maybe I should get 4k monitors instead of 1440p monitors for future-proofing. Hence, the question came about.

The current UW has a PPI of around 108. The corresponding 1440p monitors have similar PPI, at around 108. I prefer such parity.
If I am going to get 4k monitors instead, then I have to downscale it to maintain that parity. Hence that question also.
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Here where many people (including you).... gets wrong/do not understand...2D display resolution is always mainly depends on the display output(s)... both your DP 1.4 outputs (1060 supports 1.4) can support 4k@120hz and the HDMI 2.0: 4k@60Hz... You can have three 4k monitors@60Hz with no issues

All usb-c with DP out.... will output the supported DP of the GPU, in your case DP 1.4... you'll need a "cheap" converted for this (RM50 or less)... This DP by-pass output uses the same wires as the TB signals (only one [of the 2] will work at a time); taking a pure TB signal and you can split the TB signal to 2 or 3 monitor outputs that requires an "expensive" TB dock (RM500+ to 1k).

Most monitors with usb-c in are taking the DP signal and not the TB signal.... <<< Apart from Apple there maybe one other monitor that takes a TB signal input...

Example: I've a mini-PC with an intel 8265U that could run three 4k@60Hz outputs through its iGPU...

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QUOTE(toffy @ Jul 5 2022, 10:21 PM)
Sounds good! Thanks!
From what I read, it seems to be certified at DP 1.2 but ready for 1.3 and 1.4. Not exactly sure what this means.

Thanks for elaborating on this.
Mine is a laptop, so it is a mobile GPU. Since it is GTX 1060, then it is all the 'same' in terms of supporting DP up to version 1.4? Or the mobile GPU is different from the desktop version?
Only one of the 2 will work... do you mean it is either DP or TB that will work at a time? I guess there is no reason to configure and split the TB signal to support 2 or more monitors via an expensive dock, unless I don't have enough ports to support 3 monitors in total.

Wow! You must have a powerful iGPU. I thought only dGPU can do that.

I agree with the consistency suggestion.
If I am going to get a 4k, I can downscale it to 1440p to make it almost consistent but that carries the non-native concerns you mentioned earlier such as sharpness, non-value 4k monitors etc

Can 1440p be still mainstream for the next 4 years ah? Me curious.
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1. Either by bios update or just software drivers your 1060 should be able to utilise DP 1.4 bandwidth... regardless you'll still have DP.12 which is perfectly fine for 4k@60hz...

2. Yes with a DP-out usb-c port... You either utilse DP or TB signal (+ one USB 2.1)....and here's another nugget: DP signal can be split to multiple displays too, using a MST hub.

Example: Displays 4 and 3 (3440x1440) and 2 (2560x1440) are all running using a single DP 1.4-out.... all running at 120Hz @native res. (if not mistaken)
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3. No it's a basic grade iGPU... not even Iris Pro... but (again) you missed the point: 2D display-out support depends solely on the output supported... NOT on how powerful the GPU or iGPU is.

4. Nvidia consumer GPU has a software limit on display-out supported to only 4 displays.....AMD support up to 6... My picture example above: I have enough ports to push up to 8 displays... but NVidia limited it to 4...

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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ Jul 5 2022, 10:59 PM)
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the 'estate' gained is not too much if compares to 23/24" 1080p, not as awesome as 2k 32" (for work) but tbh, 27" really is the best size.

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1080p=2k
1440p=2.5k
2160p=4k
2880p=5k

I'd assume you mean 32" at 2.5k... if the monitor sits further away... or 32"@ 4k if the monitor is much closer (short depth desk space)....

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post Jul 7 2022, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(toffy @ Jul 6 2022, 08:37 PM)
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Thanks. I am going try this!

2.
Is MST hub worth it? Is there any difference in terms of bandwidth of throughput, using 2 DP ports (parallel?) for 1 display each, vs 1 DP port that split into 2 display (serial?) via the MST hub?

3.
May I know what the '2D' in 2D display-out means? 2 dimensions or something else?

4.
Why do they want to limit it to 4?
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2. not needed if you don't intend to go beyond 4 displays

3. Display-output that does not involve processing and displaying 3D accelerated games...

4. So people would buy their Quadro line... that supports 8 display-out (if not mistaken)...

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