reason is there is an armature extended click into the gear when you put in "P", if there is a follower hit your car behind when you are at "P", gearbox will be damaged more serious and lead to expensive repairing.
is that true?
Put in "N" Don't Put in "P"
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when stop in front of traffic light, put in "P" may damage your whole gearbox easier than putting in "N"
reason is there is an armature extended click into the gear when you put in "P", if there is a follower hit your car behind when you are at "P", gearbox will be damaged more serious and lead to expensive repairing. is that true? |
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in some car
whn u pull handbreak it will auto go to "P" |
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yes i think true. thats why they give you option to put 'n'
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No need, just let it stay at D
Why need to shift to N or P? The more you shift the more wear and tear |
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gomen should haramkan "P"
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if damage then
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I derive stick tiap kali benti mesti neutral punya kalau tak enjin mati mahh
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QUOTE(ectt @ May 23 2014, 07:28 PM) when stop in front of traffic light, put in "P" may damage your whole gearbox easier than putting in "N" logically quite true.reason is there is an armature extended click into the gear when you put in "P", if there is a follower hit your car behind when you are at "P", gearbox will be damaged more serious and lead to expensive repairing. is that true? |
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P for parking
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QUOTE(ectt @ May 23 2014, 07:28 PM) when stop in front of traffic light, put in "P" may damage your whole gearbox easier than putting in "N" u know why? coz those ppl usually la uncle..aunty...teach all their children to put in P when not moving even on traffic light coz it save fuel....reason is there is an armature extended click into the gear when you put in "P", if there is a follower hit your car behind when you are at "P", gearbox will be damaged more serious and lead to expensive repairing. is that true? i was like..seriously? even if on P your car engine is still running save wat....and constant shifting like that kill gear easily...they all juz brush me off saying i was wrong...lol |
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Why dafuk do people put in P during traffic lights? Put in N + handbrake enough la.
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QUOTE(Shiniz @ May 23 2014, 07:42 PM) u know why? coz those ppl usually la uncle..aunty...teach all their children to put in P when not moving even on traffic light coz it save fuel.... the master did remind that when learnt driving i was like..seriously? even if on P your car engine is still running save wat....and constant shifting like that kill gear easily...they all juz brush me off saying i was wrong...lol |
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rempit no P just N
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DSG7 user better put at N when at traffic lights if u want your mechatronic to last longer
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lol...at P at traffic light. Not sure which niga told u to do that
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QUOTE(Powerbike @ May 23 2014, 07:48 PM) N- normally use in traffic light la, for awhile use You are wrong to: that is only applicable if your stop is too long.P- for parking use, locked your position Only stupid people shift to P while waitinf for traffic light or encounter jam "When stationary in traffic, even for many minutes, it is not necessary to move the gear lever into neutral because the torque converter absorbs the engine’s propulsion force but does not transmit it all to the gearbox. No wear is taking place. In fact, more wear will take place if you engage neutral then engage a drive gear when it is possible to move off. Most gearboxes will automatically select first gear when the vehicle becomes stationary." |
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if I see traffic light turn green into red = I put N
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i always facepalm when see the reverse light blink when at traffic light
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Why need to put P at traffic?
Just N and break paddle la |
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If in D, u may travel further in front and whack someone else if an ******* kiss your ass from behind.
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Iinm stick to D when waiting for traffic lite or stop for long period will damage the gear box
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logically it makes sense.
but i usually put in N n handbrake |
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my car have no P, just numbers and one R... where can i find P?
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P untuk parking la gile,,N same la mcm manual,neutral,,
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P -> D -> P -> D is safer if you get rear ended, because lets say you're at a traffic light, you won't roll out into the middle of the intersection and get slammed on the side by a lorry.
Yes, there may be transmission damage if you get hit while in P, but that's what insurance and lawyers are there for. Sue the person who hit you kaw kaw. |
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QUOTE(dothackRAVE @ May 23 2014, 08:57 PM) P -> D -> P -> D is safer if you get rear ended, because lets say you're at a traffic light, you won't roll out into the middle of the intersection and get slammed on the side by a lorry. Why not just N + handbrake?Yes, there may be transmission damage if you get hit while in P, but that's what insurance and lawyers are there for. Sue the person who hit you kaw kaw. |
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When you got kids in the Car....never put it in N....
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QUOTE(Shiniz @ May 23 2014, 07:42 PM) u know why? coz those ppl usually la uncle..aunty...teach all their children to put in P when not moving even on traffic light coz it save fuel.... my thoughts exactlyi was like..seriously? even if on P your car engine is still running save wat....and constant shifting like that kill gear easily...they all juz brush me off saying i was wrong...lol |
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N+handbrake if the light just turned red.
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i no stop at traffic light. not a problem for me
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Just press brake la. Not long also.
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Tekan brake hard once to engage handbrake.
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Why no one seems to know that in D position, the gear oil will cool the gearbox while in N does not? Assuming u already on the move and not just starting the car.
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QUOTE(ectt @ May 23 2014, 07:28 PM) when stop in front of traffic light, put in "P" may damage your whole gearbox easier than putting in "N" That means someone ram my parked car then gg liaoreason is there is an armature extended click into the gear when you put in "P", if there is a follower hit your car behind when you are at "P", gearbox will be damaged more serious and lead to expensive repairing. is that true? |
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QUOTE(ectt @ May 23 2014, 02:28 PM) when stop in front of traffic light, put in "P" may damage your whole gearbox easier than putting in "N" this statement only true if you drive proton or ummmm VW? lelzreason is there is an armature extended click into the gear when you put in "P", if there is a follower hit your car behind when you are at "P", gearbox will be damaged more serious and lead to expensive repairing. is that true? |
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You should put in R at traffic lights. Prepare for Race mode.
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some ppl put in P at traffic lights ... sudden green, move down one notch and pijak minyak ...
fark .... kena hit once like that last time and that idiot say its my fault for being too close to him |
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Leave it in D.
No wear and tear, compared to putting it in P or N. This post has been edited by joe_mamak: May 23 2014, 10:23 PM |
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Myth No. 5: It's best to shift an automatic transmission into Neutral at red lights. This myth stems from the idea that keeping the transmission in Drive while stepping on the brake wastes fuel and causes unnecessary wear on the driveline. In fact, actual engine wear and fuel loss are minimal.
Regularly shifting from Neutral and back into Drive when the light turns green, then immediately stepping on the gas, can wear — albeit slightly — on the transmission, driveline and engine mounts. Ultimately, these stoplight antics probably won't amount to any measurable harm or good; they're likely just a habit by folks who need to keep their hand busy with the gear selector. Our advice? Get a stick shift. http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Story.jsp?se...h&story=ydMyths |
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QUOTE(ectt @ May 23 2014, 07:28 PM) when stop in front of traffic light, put in "P" may damage your whole gearbox easier than putting in "N" real man off engine terus.reason is there is an armature extended click into the gear when you put in "P", if there is a follower hit your car behind when you are at "P", gearbox will be damaged more serious and lead to expensive repairing. is that true? |
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wat i think that it juz dangerous as well..i mean u need to go from P to D....instead of N to D let say suddenly green light driver not ready...panic gear shifted in R before hitting N...step gas and wala...we got ourself a accident
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Emm... talking about this, I remember the time I had to drive from s.alam to klia coz my parents cant start their car. Arrive there I instantly notice the gear is set to D. seriously I facepalm
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Some cars N to D need to press brake to engage. Some dont.
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lol to put at N just need a liltle push...
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I dunno but I memang always put to N instead of P on traffic light and those times ehen u stop awhile. Malas tolak until P. Have to go thru R somemore . N plus handbreak good enuf for me.
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many says put neutral and handbrake, but many people i saw only press brake and stays on D, waffak.
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a few years back, i read somewhere that N slightly save fuel than D,
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what about 2 and 3?? someone said to me, dont use 2, 2 only for towing.. true ah??
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 24 2014, 11:15 AM) QUOTE(asparagsu @ May 24 2014, 11:12 AM) what about 2 and 3?? someone said to me, dont use 2, 2 only for towing.. true ah?? This post has been edited by asparagsu: May 24 2014, 11:19 AMdriving gf auto transmission car.. mine manual actually.. edit: often use 3 to panjat bukit, but never use 2.. |
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I put D and handbrake. Enuff for me.
QUOTE(asparagsu @ May 24 2014, 11:12 AM) what about 2 and 3?? someone said to me, dont use 2, 2 only for towing.. true ah?? TBH, Any gear will do just depend on the situation.driving gf auto transmission car.. mine manual actually.. I use 2/3 for engine braking during downhill especially during genting. Sometimes to be paul walker. |
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May 24 2014, 12:36 PM
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hey
i dont care i put it everywhere i want |
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May 24 2014, 12:59 PM
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May 24 2014, 01:46 PM
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May 24 2014, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(Tokyonite @ May 24 2014, 01:46 PM) Yup. My ex-Triton went forward by 2 meters after being hit at the rear by an old 1985 Saga with metal bumper. Minor damage for me. Just rear bumper. Claimed RM 4k in damages from Saga owner. |
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May 24 2014, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(ectt @ May 23 2014, 08:28 PM) when stop in front of traffic light, put in "P" may damage your whole gearbox easier than putting in "N" Saya rasa anda tak pandai berfikir. P = gear removed from the gear box. N + brake together it's about Gear 1 with brake. Putting N is more damaging.and if someone bang u when u put in P, why u care about the cost of repair while the other party will responsible for itreason is there is an armature extended click into the gear when you put in "P", if there is a follower hit your car behind when you are at "P", gearbox will be damaged more serious and lead to expensive repairing. is that true? |
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May 24 2014, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(KitZhai @ May 24 2014, 01:54 PM) Saya rasa anda tak pandai berfikir. P = gear removed from the gear box. N + brake together it's about Gear 1 with brake. Putting N is more damaging.and if someone bang u when u put in P, why u care about the cost of repair while the other party will responsible for it if your car is more than 5 years old, you need pay betterment charge. |
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May 24 2014, 01:58 PM
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N and tarik hand brake
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May 27 2014, 11:46 AM
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i am impressed with the replies in this thread..
put N instead of D can save how many fuel? @@ This post has been edited by nickzkuso: May 27 2014, 11:46 AM |
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