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post May 18 2014, 11:20 PM, updated 6y ago

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- Opposite Menara Prestige, Jalan P Ramlee.
- Where the clubs and pubs are located.

According to DBKL-OSC:

Tower A - 62-storey serviced apartments (330 units).
Tower B - 62-storey serviced apartments (325 units).
Tower C - 62-storey serviced apartments (330 units).
Tower D - 43-storey hotel block (357 rooms).
Including a 5-storey commercial retail podium.

Coming soon to Jalan P. Ramlee, Kuala Lumpur City Centre.

Besides this, coming soon nearby is also Cecil Chao Centre consisting of 4 towers, three of which are 50 storeys. More above 50 floor buildings coming to KL.

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siao... another thousand units development...jialat
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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ May 18 2014, 11:23 PM)
siao... another thousand units development...jialat
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There damm crowded di.. got star residence.. mirage residence.. the one residence.. ritz carlton.. siao..price confirm 1.5 psq above
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post May 19 2014, 06:20 AM

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Can the market absorb so many units? Looks like an oversupply situation for mid-high end condos from 2014.
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post May 19 2014, 07:40 AM

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i wanna go pull all their fire alarm again, just to see if there is enough ground stand when all the resident decide to exit all the residential there.
anyone want to count how many car will be parking at the street ?

i'll start a carpark business there soon ...
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post May 19 2014, 08:53 AM

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how big is the land?
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post May 19 2014, 09:59 AM

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The family own the land from day 1?
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post May 19 2014, 10:21 AM

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About 4 parcels of land but in terms of size is quite small.


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post May 19 2014, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Kevin Chan @ May 19 2014, 07:40 AM)
i wanna go pull all their fire alarm again, just to see if there is enough ground stand when all the resident decide to exit all the residential there.
anyone want to count how many car will be parking at the street ?

i'll start a carpark business there soon ...
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nice idea rclxms.gif

ooh these car parking at the street ain't your daily commuter kind of car I hope... lambo, ferrari, maseratti..and merc is the most common among the lot drool.gif
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Seems like "Monoland" has taken over the project and marketing.

Anyone to confirm?
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post Sep 2 2014, 10:13 AM

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Siao... people and biz are moving away from KL centre and yet these people still want to build it there. Some more HUGE unit numbers
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post Sep 2 2014, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(myproblem @ Sep 2 2014, 10:13 AM)
Siao... people and biz are moving away from KL centre and yet these people still want to build it there. Some more HUGE unit numbers
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moving to where?
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post Sep 2 2014, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(myproblem @ Sep 2 2014, 10:13 AM)
Siao... people and biz are moving away from KL centre and yet these people still want to build it there. Some more HUGE unit numbers
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bro, is capital of Malaysia la
mana lagi boleh runaway?

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post Sep 2 2014, 01:09 PM

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No... Not high density condos again...
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post Sep 2 2014, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(accetera @ May 19 2014, 10:21 AM)
About 4 parcels of land but in terms of size is quite small.
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That plot of land looks not that huge.

Got 2.5 x sizes of the Cecil Chao land?

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post Sep 2 2014, 03:40 PM

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this project can target the expats market...
especially the o&g guys...

expats like to stay near kl
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post Sep 2 2014, 04:14 PM

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And in the meantime, O&G expat guys are having their contracts terminated....
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QUOTE(cwtien @ Sep 2 2014, 04:14 PM)
And in the meantime, O&G expat guys are having their contracts terminated....
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This!
The oversupply is not really an issue, the decreasing of demand / unemployment is. And still BNM says that Malaysian economy is growing. pfftt...
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post Sep 2 2014, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(cwtien @ Sep 2 2014, 04:14 PM)
And in the meantime, O&G expat guys are having their contracts terminated....
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U sure boh? I worked in Schlumberger last time leh. Our financial hub headcount increased from 21 to 700 over three years with 40% being expats.

The only thing is Our Office is based in Bandar Utama, PJ. Although national HQ is at Rohas Perkasa, KLCC.

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QUOTE(accetera @ Sep 2 2014, 05:32 PM)
U sure boh? I worked in Schlumberger last time leh. Our financial hub headcount increased from 21 to 700 over three years with 40% being expats.

The only thing is Our Office is based in Bandar Utama, PJ. Although national HQ is at Rohas Perkasa, KLCC.
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How long ago was your last time? sweat.gif
Anyway, it undeniable that previously many industries were doing good but if you're in today's market, no matter which industry it is, many will tell you that it is going slower than the previous year's same period.
Do take note that the prop market is not reliant on the expats market alone. It is still the local consumers who are the main customers.
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QUOTE(cheez @ Sep 2 2014, 06:11 PM)
How long ago was your last time? sweat.gif
Anyway, it undeniable that previously many industries were doing good but if you're in today's market, no matter which industry it is, many will tell you that it is going slower than the previous year's same period.
Do take note that the prop market is not reliant on the expats market alone. It is still the local consumers who are the main customers.
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I reserve my opinion about whole O&G industry, but Schlumberger doesnt reduce expat headcount as of today. The old expats left and then new expats come from time to time, not due to termination, but because KL is just the training ground for the expats, who are going to get bigger paycheck/higher position when they leave here...
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Property bubble???
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post Sep 2 2014, 08:38 PM

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Anyway this is just 1 out of about 20 brand new projects planned in KL City.

For more, u can review:
http://www.patchay.com/p/kuala-lumpur-urba...velopments.html

U'll be surprised with the amount of new projects coming up! All high high ones...

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How many people work for Schlumberger in Malaysia?

I though they usually charge the highest among all oil service companies so have relatively few projects here. hmm.gif
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post Sep 2 2014, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Sep 2 2014, 08:38 PM)
Anyway this is just 1 out of about 20 brand new projects planned in KL City.

For more, u can review:
http://www.patchay.com/p/kuala-lumpur-urba...velopments.html

U'll be surprised with the amount of new projects coming up! All high high ones...
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Even though it's KL, I'm not convinced at all the influx of premium high rise can be absorbed by the market. There is already sign of over supply...
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QUOTE(frozenne @ Sep 3 2014, 12:24 AM)
The same can b said for many areas  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(yusiang @ Sep 2 2014, 06:37 PM)
I reserve my opinion about whole O&G industry, but Schlumberger doesnt reduce expat headcount as of today. The old expats left and then new expats come from time to time, not due to termination, but because KL is just the training ground for the expats, who are going to get bigger paycheck/higher position when they leave here...
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Even if they/the industry doesn't reduce headcount, it doesn't increase either.
Well, fingers crossed and hoping for the best to come.
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post Sep 7 2014, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Sep 2 2014, 08:38 PM)
Anyway this is just 1 out of about 20 brand new projects planned in KL City.

For more, u can review:
http://www.patchay.com/p/kuala-lumpur-urba...velopments.html

U'll be surprised with the amount of new projects coming up! All high high ones...
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too many sian already
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post Sep 7 2014, 12:51 PM

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Location x 3. U can say this and that. But KLCC lands getting scarce. This land is super prime land. Btw, i heard u wan also cannot get. Even u q from now, also cannot dapat. If u are not previous monoland buyer, u can forget it. Even u were...ur chance is very slim. Normally monoland ll price it below mkt price. Gd luck.

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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Sep 7 2014, 12:51 PM)
Location x 3. U can say this and that. But KLCC lands getting scarce. This land is super prime land. Btw, i heard u wan also cannot get. Even u q from now, also cannot dapat.
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Prime land with sky high price. How long will the queue be hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 7 2014, 01:54 PM)
Prime land with sky high price.  How long will the queue be hmm.gif
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U sure the price ll be sky high? :8 Monoland u know. smile.gif

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post Dec 31 2014, 06:42 PM

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Thread title changed.
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QUOTE(QSquare @ Sep 2 2014, 06:55 PM)
Property bubble???
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Popo, pop
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post Dec 31 2014, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 7 2014, 01:54 PM)
Prime land with sky high price.  How long will the queue be hmm.gif
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Monoland does not use queue system. Last updated, waiting list of its loyal customers already "longer" than units available.
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U all please dont buy. Pity serious buyer like me. Let me buy alone ya. Dont kacau market. Hehe
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Any picture of how the design of the building is like?


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post Dec 31 2014, 10:10 PM

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first posted in https://www.facebook.com/groups/115179435202482/

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post Dec 31 2014, 10:40 PM

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what's the indicative price psf, tai kor? notworthy.gif

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post Mar 13 2015, 12:37 AM

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RM1,500psf... ok boh?
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QUOTE(accetera @ Mar 13 2015, 12:37 AM)
RM1,500psf... ok boh?
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post Mar 15 2015, 08:43 PM

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location is awesome.

heard the 1000 units is already booked by insiders.
don't know true or not?
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Very possible...there are some tai tai tai kor can commit 30-40 units alone..
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post Mar 24 2015, 11:11 AM

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Any news on pre launch date? Or there won't be one
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post Mar 24 2015, 12:37 PM

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Parkview become sardine already
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post Mar 24 2015, 02:03 PM

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wonder where the access gonna be.. on p ramlee or the small road in front menara ta


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post Mar 24 2015, 02:57 PM

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who is the developer?
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any updates on launch price and date?
i love the location, opposite KLCC smile.gif
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so no way for new buyers to get their hands on one of these ah?

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Wah, so many good projects in klcc, don't understand why people go buy suburban with slightly lower in price but lower roi
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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Jun 19 2015, 08:00 PM)
Wah, so many good projects in klcc, don't understand why people go buy suburban with slightly lower in price but lower roi
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but hearsay kl city rental not easy to occupy. if calc roi, klcc condo really quite low. im taking e parkview or marc current price for rent and purchase.
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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Jun 19 2015, 06:00 AM)
Wah, so many good projects in klcc, don't understand why people go buy suburban with slightly lower in price but lower roi
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My friend has units in idaman n parkview n said rental is on a downtrend (real terms) for a few yrs n parkview now can even get 1.8k n many ME students renting thr.. Many owners facing skysuites also looking to sell due to 4-5yr suffer cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

QUOTE(HarpArtist @ Jun 19 2015, 06:04 AM)
but hearsay kl city rental not easy to occupy. if calc roi, klcc condo really quite low. im taking e parkview or marc current price for rent and purchase.
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Same friend said occupancy dropped when jln pinang apartments aka vipod came up.. At the same time, i have a friend renting out klcc studio (not parkview of cos) for 5.5k p/month rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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Parkview RM700psf asking aso got leh...

KLCC no doubt is the focal point of Klang Valley, however, the market in KLCC is very co-related to the macroeconomic situation, especially the foreign direct investment coming into Malaysia as well as the no. of professional expats (hence no of foreign co setting up HQ) coming into Malaysia.

The risk is that Malaysia faces an enormous challenge to continue to attract good quality expats into the country and the rising cost for companies that opted to reduce cost by moving their offices out of the city centre.

The KLCC market generally has a lower night population and hence investors should be aware of the specific condo that they are investing because obviously the KLCC market has other factors to consider such as noises, walking distance conveniences and even the tenants profile of the condo or surrounding.

It is also worth noting that several condos in KLCC market is sometimes sold to "big investors or those related to tan sri owner of developers" who generally able to hold their properties for a long time. So if you cannot hold for long, then you need to re-strategise.

You need to know that the KLCC Market has a pretty huge gap in terms of Range of PSF within the subsale market and also the primary market. Size of the unit is a factor itself. You can find as low as RM700psf... and also as high as RM2,500psf in this market.

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QUOTE(accetera @ Jun 21 2015, 12:20 PM)
Parkview RM700psf asking aso got leh...

KLCC no doubt is the focal point of Klang Valley, however, the market in KLCC is very co-related to the macroeconomic situation, especially the foreign direct investment coming into Malaysia as well as the no. of professional expats (hence no of foreign co setting up HQ) coming into Malaysia.

The risk is that Malaysia faces an enormous challenge to continue to attract good quality expats into the country and the rising cost for companies that opted to reduce cost by moving their offices out of the city centre.

The KLCC market generally has a lower night population and hence investors should be aware of the specific condo that they are investing because obviously the KLCC market has other factors to consider such as noises, walking distance conveniences and even the tenants profile of the condo or surrounding.

It is also worth noting that several condos in KLCC market is sometimes sold to "big investors or those related to tan sri owner of developers" who generally able to hold their properties for a long time. So if you cannot hold for long, then you need to re-strategise.

You need to know that the KLCC Market has a pretty huge gap in terms of Range of PSF within the subsale market and also the primary market. Size of the unit is a factor itself. You can find as low as RM700psf... and also as high as RM2,500psf in this market.
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I suppose parkview 700psf is big unit 1200< sq ft?

Also am told by my expat colleagues that although they work in KLCC they prefer not to rent there if they have a family, due to lack of international schools nearby, they prefer Ampang/Jelatek.
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QUOTE(sendomike @ Mar 15 2015, 08:43 PM)
location is awesome.

heard the 1000 units is already booked by insiders.
don't know true or not?
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Is this monoland project?
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Any idea when will Sky suites be launched? Hi dense project by Monoland.
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QUOTE(nickchin @ Sep 21 2015, 04:15 PM)
Any idea when will Sky suites be launched? Hi dense project by Monoland.
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Any owners of Monoland's past development that can share some views on their project quality? Is it worth to buy their project for own stay? Do they provide quality finishing and good materials?
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QUOTE(nickchin @ Sep 28 2015, 04:27 PM)
Any owners of Monoland's past development that can share some views on their project quality? Is it worth to buy their project for own stay? Do they provide quality finishing and good materials?
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If you are looking for quality then Monoland is not for you.
But from my friend's previous investment, they tend to sell slightly below market to finish selling without needing much advertising
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Klcc rental becoming less and less attractive now since so many units coming in. Aiyoyo. Soho klcc also not easy to get tenant now
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QUOTE(nickchin @ Sep 28 2015, 04:27 PM)
Any owners of Monoland's past development that can share some views on their project quality? Is it worth to buy their project for own stay? Do they provide quality finishing and good materials?
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For the price paid and location you get, The material, finishes and finishes provided is decent and above average. Some KLCC just give engineered timber flooring and porcelain tiles. Monoland always give solid timber flooring and marble tiles.

However do not expect to be treated like a king despite paying for a million property. In fact their after sales customer services almost close to nil.
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QUOTE(AMINT @ Sep 28 2015, 10:08 PM)
Klcc rental becoming less and less attractive now since so many units coming in. Aiyoyo. Soho klcc also not easy to get tenant now
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SOHO KLCC for some reason always not the fav unless you are tight on budget. For 1+1 in Vipod, you can easily get 2 bedders in SHOO KLCC.

So far despite OnG is slumping, didn't hear expats contract being terminated indiscriminately.
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QUOTE(gks @ Sep 28 2015, 11:36 PM)
For the price paid and location you get, The material, finishes and finishes provided is decent and above average. Some KLCC just give engineered timber flooring and porcelain tiles. Monoland always give solid timber flooring and marble tiles.

However do not expect to be treated like a king despite paying for a million property. In fact their after sales customer services almost close to nil.
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Sound like developer & main con are not bad
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QUOTE(gks @ Sep 28 2015, 11:39 PM)
SOHO KLCC for some reason always not the fav unless you are tight on budget. For 1+1 in Vipod, you can easily get 2 bedders in SHOO KLCC.

So far despite OnG is slumping, didn't hear expats contract being terminated indiscriminately.
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I heard quite a lot of VSS, not to mention, this is will be continue for sometime and now is just the beginning.

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next year many projects will be delivered, once the projects completed, their contracts are unlikely to be continued, as communicated by some expats
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Does anyone clearly know who are the shareholders of Monoland?
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QUOTE(nickchin @ Oct 6 2015, 07:28 PM)
Does anyone clearly know who are the shareholders of Monoland?
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Different subsi, different complete guys. There is no "monoland" as a group.

But we all know that Monoland is referring to the "Goh fellas".
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QUOTE(accetera @ Oct 6 2015, 07:44 PM)
Different subsi, different complete guys. There is no "monoland" as a group.

But we all know that Monoland is referring to the "Goh fellas".
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How do we register our interest to buy this project
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post Oct 8 2015, 10:53 AM

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Has anyone tried calling the number on the board surrounding the site?

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QUOTE(sendomike @ Oct 8 2015, 10:53 AM)
Has anyone tried calling the number on the board surrounding the site?
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This project need connection to buy
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Oct 8 2015, 11:17 AM)
This project need connection to buy
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still need connection to buy???

if launched price around 1200-1300psf
min 800sq
total units > 1000 units
during property downturn time
and majority of bankers are closing their water taps

so many millionaires in Malaysia meh? blush.gif
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 8 2015, 11:31 AM)
still need connection to buy???

if launched price around 1200-1300psf
min 800sq
total units > 1000 units
during property downturn time
and majority of bankers are closing their water taps

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Quite a number of monoland buyers they buy without financing

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This project need connection to buy
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would have loved to get a unit here for rental purposes...
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You buy their previous projects, u will get the connection. however, since previous projects also need connection to buy, very hard lor. ;p


forgot to tell, u can start by buying their unsold 1 or 2 units of soho suites. they do have them. dont expect cheap though coz already completed.

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You buy their previous projects, u will get the connection. however, since previous projects also need connection to buy, very hard lor. ;p
forgot to tell, u can start by buying their unsold 1 or 2 units of soho suites. they do have them. dont expect cheap though coz already completed.
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I think SOHO left office suite.

Maybe can look into Quadro.

In perspective, Vortex 442units with price tag of close average rm1m can be sold out without single ads. Sky suites with superior location and range of sizes should be do similarly well.
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still need connection to buy???

if launched price around 1200-1300psf
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during property downturn time
and majority of bankers are closing their water taps

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No catalogue
No printed media advertisment needed
and will sell all within short period.
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This is one of the projects that is really full of mystery where it is significantly tough to engage with their sales team for any sales info. Any interested party here that can connect us to the developer for the purchase of this project? Without a website for a housing development, tough for new buyers to step in for their projects.

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High likely monoland will apply same Vortex sales tactics by selling bulk to VVIPs.

Only bread crumbs, if any, open for public
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High likely monoland will apply same Vortex sales tactics by selling bulk to VVIPs.

Only bread crumbs, if any, open for public
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One VIP ll sapu 100units easily. If u know this key VIP in vipod and vortex.
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This is one of the projects that is really full of mystery where it is significantly tough to engage with their sales team for any sales info. Any interested party here that can connect us to the developer for the purchase of this project? Without a website for a housing development, tough for new buyers to step in for their projects.
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Sorry to hear .. They are always mystery. So far by now propcafe has the most info of monoland project that even other major portal or blogs can't have it.
Their database customer very strong where their vvip not buy 1-10 units but 50 - 100 units... 😭

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What issue? No enough units or overloaded...
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Sorry to hear ..  They are always mystery. So far by now propcafe has the most info of monoland project that even other major portal or blogs can't have it.
Their database customer very strong where their vvip not buy 1-10 units but 50 - 100 units...  😭
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You go and ask them la. Lol. Everyone is waiting. Propcafe also waiting la when i message them. They always bbb and follow monoland projects closely one.

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No news no sound. New levy on foreign workers... price up? Zzzz
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better not launch anything in this toxic market. support subsales...
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Not all developer bought land with Internal funding. The longer they hold, the higher their land cost. It is developer's interest to launch as early as possible.
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Not all developer bought land with Internal funding. The longer they hold, the higher their land cost. It is developer's interest to launch as early as possible.
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The groundworks already started since few months ago even without started to sell. Very unlikely funding is an issue for this developer
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Monoland belong to goh chun lai family. Very risky. Goh hv lot deep shit.
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i can't really find any infor about him.. mind share?
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I think one of the Goh brothers married 9 wives.

They are spotted giving cash for Penang Lang to support BN govt.

They sold their Air Itam land to 1MDB at cool prices, one of the deal was 6 days before General Election.

Behind the scene brothers, their companies have various directorships. One of the man in charge is a preferred man of Magnum boss, which in turn is a Jibby buddy, and his partner is Jho Low's father in MWE (famous Penang textile company of the past).

Their first venture in KL was Titiwangsa Sentral - which sold out like mad.

Then they moved to The Oval @ KLCC... halfway through, they sold the entire project to Guocoland. The GM for Guoco at that time was removed for making this decision. Rumours that they did not follow the submitted building plans when they built it causing CCC problem, or rather it was passed to the new owner.

With money on hand, they continued their spree across the KLCC markets besides one in TTDI.

Investors are generally very happy with their Property which held some of the best appreciation rates, if not very good location, and right product mix with affordable pricing and sizes.
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Is this project cancelled ?
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Is this project cancelled ?
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The launches is postponed.
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vortex subsale and price range from 1500 to 1800psf

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This few day busy on vortex renovation. We have more than 40 units in vortex. Anyone interested to get a unit in vortex can PM me. But subsale and price range from 1500 to 1800psf
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Not 1300?
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Not 1300?
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If 1300sf, queue very long leh. I oso want. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Me want also. thumbsup.gif
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This few day busy on vortex renovation. We have more than 40 units in vortex. Anyone interested to get a unit in vortex can PM me. But subsale and price range from 1500 to 1800psf
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The interiors seem more for airbnb
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The interiors seem more for airbnb
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many kl city properties have been used for airbnb instead of yearly tenancy...........

maybe due to retrenched expats in O&G leaving malaysia.....???

and also rising high rise homes supply in klcc putting pressure on rental growth...........

so better switch boat to airbnb for better way out??

m2c.......
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many kl city properties have been used for airbnb instead of yearly tenancy...........

maybe due to retrenched expats in O&G leaving malaysia.....???

and also rising high rise homes supply in klcc putting pressure on rental growth...........

so better switch boat to airbnb for better way out??

m2c.......
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do airbnb not so easy. every few days got to go layan ur guests.
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do airbnb not so easy. every few days got to go layan ur guests.
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I passed my units at summer suites to a airbnb management company. Not too bad return and I dont need to be there, though they take some commission for management.
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I passed my units at summer suites to a airbnb management company. Not too bad return and I dont need to be there, though they take some commission for management.
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wow. can you share the contact with me?
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Me too...i'm also interested..

thank you.
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I passed my units at summer suites to a airbnb management company. Not too bad return and I dont need to be there, though they take some commission for management.
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can share the contact? Thanks.
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Anyone know the pricing for this project ? Want to buy but no info.
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by now you should know that you dun buy property from monoland..

its them who sell to you de........
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by now you should know that you dun buy property from monoland..

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Even in 'slow' times? How cheap can they sell btw.
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if you dun know how much their indicative price, meaning you are not their top 3 groups of customers or priority VVIP and VIP list.

Am not sure how much they will jack up prices after these groups.....

guess it all depends on how is the take up rate qua....

Just for guide....their latest vped vortex was sold for at 1300psf roughly. you can guess how much a better located project will cost.

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Monoland style.. Their past modus operandi is pay 10% DP and Sign SPA on the spot... No rebate or any gimmick..

On top of this... they already completed the piling... Means another 10% within 3months after SPA is signed... Make sure you have RM200K cash ready and if you are offered low floor unit, another 10% probably within a year...

In nutshell, RM300K cash within a year if you are under LTV70 loan. And steel balls to sign SPA before secure a loan (If you need loan).
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Is there any prime future development by this developer?
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I found it online. You can contact them lazyhost.co but not sure if they take vortex tho.
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I found it online. You can contact them lazyhost.co but not sure if they take vortex tho.
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Monoland style.. Their past modus operandi is pay 10% DP and Sign SPA on the spot... No rebate or any gimmick..

On top of this... they already completed the piling... Means another 10% within 3months after SPA is signed... Make sure you have RM200K cash ready and if you are offered low floor unit, another 10% probably within a year...

In nutshell, RM300K cash within a year if you are under LTV70 loan. And steel balls to sign SPA before secure a loan (If you need loan).
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Yes...pay the 10pc n sign two pager spa (without the spa content) without loan. Thats what their customer does. Dont forget that you cannot choose the unit. Is them to choose for u. Take it n sign n pay or leave it. Next!

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Yes...pay the 10pc n sign two pager spa (without the spa content) without loan. Thats what their customer does. Dont forget that you cannot choose the unit. Is them to choose for u. Take it n sign n pay or leave it. Next!
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During property bull market, this tactic may works.

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Appreciate if you could share me airbnb management company contact too..

Thank you in advance.

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I passed my units at summer suites to a airbnb management company. Not too bad return and I dont need to be there, though they take some commission for management.
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Start selling after raya....anyone will buy?
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Please ask how much commission he is looking to "help" you to book.
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Maybe the forumner will be generous to help you to book without any monetary return. lol.
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Those who interested, Why you guys not dropby to the developer office?
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Now can only que for drop out units. Only those that are selected and called can go developer office.
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Are they selling at 500psf?
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i confused, now is talking sky suites or what?
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Just been informed that I hv been "allocated" 1 unit. Don't know the unit, size and price. Will go to office to find out more then decide whether to take or not. Anyone hv also been allocated? Good to take up?
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Allocated a unit is fine..
But the killer is need to pay 20% at least first 2 few weeks...and if u r on low floor...another 10% within months.

Spa to be signed soon as well....make sure yr credit rating is super good....

Am sure all the vvip taikos taiches no problem de...in getting finances.

Price psf wise...super attractive....
Density wise.....very high....
Layout wise....to each of its own....
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QUOTE(bigmamma @ Aug 11 2016, 08:44 AM)
Just been informed that I hv been "allocated" 1 unit. Don't know the unit, size and price. Will go to office to find out more then decide whether to take or not. Anyone hv also been allocated? Good to take up?
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if u can afford, and bear the workmanship headaches, as i heard, monoland never fails to make money for their buyers. any contact to share?

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if u can afford, and bear the workmanship headaches, as i heard, monoland never fails to make money for their buyers. any contact to share?
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It was only during 2009 to 2012....

Now they are selling cheaper than vortex and location is 'better'...

U see if vortex buyers happy or not.
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It was only during 2009 to 2012....

Now they are selling cheaper than vortex and location is 'better'...

U see if vortex buyers happy or not.
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Then vortex buyer also whack one more lah
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Only this project can make much money? Make sure your return calculated is risk adjusted..
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Monoland style.. Their past modus operandi is pay 10% DP and Sign SPA on the spot... No rebate or any gimmick..

On top of this... they already completed the piling... Means another 10% within 3months after SPA is signed... Make sure you have RM200K cash ready and if you are offered low floor unit, another 10% probably within a year...

In nutshell, RM300K cash within a year if you are under LTV70 loan. And steel balls to sign SPA before secure a loan (If you need loan).
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Got friends in Quadro. Complaining about the workmanship since day one. Some units were already paying maintenance fees even when the workers are still busy installing the ceiling/lights. Rain water leaks in through the windows, clogged shower drainage, etc. Other than that, quite value for money, I guessed.

As for the valuation, do bear in mind that the property market IS on over-supplying now. I used to have 2 units in KLCC. Now only 1. Whoever that talks about renting and good ROI at this time is obviously not making enough research, or is a property agent or owner. Instead of a drive-by at night, stop and ask the concierge to see how many of the existing units are actually occupied. Unless of course, if you guys really have a lot of money and can wait it out until the next up cycle. smile.gif
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QUOTE(vanhelsing007 @ Aug 11 2016, 11:44 AM)
Got friends in Quadro. Complaining about the workmanship since day one. Some units were already paying maintenance fees even when the workers are still busy installing the ceiling/lights. Rain water leaks in through the windows, clogged shower drainage, etc. Other than that, quite value for money, I guessed.

As for the valuation, do bear in mind that the property market IS on over-supplying now. I used to have 2 units in KLCC. Now only 1. Whoever that talks about renting and good ROI at this time is obviously not making enough research, or is a property agent or owner. Instead of a drive-by at night, stop and ask the concierge to see how many of the existing units are actually occupied. Unless of course, if you guys really have a lot of money and can wait it out until the next up cycle. smile.gif
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Yeap; Quadro was definately value for money for the location; 1 KLCC Drive.

As for rental; yes KLCC is oversupplied and at current entry price; rental yield is going to be poor (if at all it can be rented out in the first place.)

This property is nice for a city pad...

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It was only during 2009 to 2012....

Now they are selling cheaper than vortex and location is 'better'...

U see if vortex buyers happy or not.
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i thought vortex buyers were entering at 900psf?
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Got friends in Quadro. Complaining about the workmanship since day one. Some units were already paying maintenance fees even when the workers are still busy installing the ceiling/lights. Rain water leaks in through the windows, clogged shower drainage, etc. Other than that, quite value for money, I guessed.

As for the valuation, do bear in mind that the property market IS on over-supplying now. I used to have 2 units in KLCC. Now only 1. Whoever that talks about renting and good ROI at this time is obviously not making enough research, or is a property agent or owner. Instead of a drive-by at night, stop and ask the concierge to see how many of the existing units are actually occupied. Unless of course, if you guys really have a lot of money and can wait it out until the next up cycle. smile.gif
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what is the expected selling price of sky suites?
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i thought vortex buyers were entering at 900psf?
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cannot compare 1st batch buyers only...

there were late buyers or those non vvip buyers too..... biggrin.gif
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what is the expected selling price of sky suites?
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call and ask lah.......

if I share here nanti kena tembak sampai mati........
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Aug 11 2016, 09:53 AM)
It was only during 2009 to 2012....

Now they are selling cheaper than vortex and location is 'better'...

U see if vortex buyers happy or not.
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Sky Suites is not cheaper lah at least for my units. I paid RM1050psf for Vortex and now being offered RM1190 for Sky Suites. About same size for both. Can accept Sky Suites being slightly higher as location is better. But density is damned high. More than 900 units in 3 blocks.
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QUOTE(bigmamma @ Aug 11 2016, 06:37 PM)
Sky Suites is not cheaper lah at least for my units. I paid RM1050psf for Vortex and now being offered RM1190 for Sky Suites. About same size for both. Can accept Sky Suites being slightly higher as location is better. But density is damned high. More than 900 units in 3 blocks.
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QUOTE(bigmamma @ Aug 11 2016, 06:37 PM)
Sky Suites is not cheaper lah at least for my units. I paid RM1050psf for Vortex and now being offered RM1190 for Sky Suites. About same size for both. Can accept Sky Suites being slightly higher as location is better. But density is damned high. More than 900 units in 3 blocks.
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yes the density is the worry. vipod and vortex are smaller scale projects
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QUOTE(bigmamma @ Aug 11 2016, 06:37 PM)
Sky Suites is not cheaper lah at least for my units. I paid RM1050psf for Vortex and now being offered RM1190 for Sky Suites. About same size for both. Can accept Sky Suites being slightly higher as location is better. But density is damned high. More than 900 units in 3 blocks.
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Starting to hot this thread. Expect more posting before launch date
I see vortex rental high? Got demand a not no idea..

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Boss u got jalan get unit in sky suite?
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No Jalan lah friend. As I am their "loyal" follower, they called to ask if I am interested. They said long queue. RM1190psf for that area, I think cannot go wrong even though density is damned high. More over size is manageable i.e. Less than 800sf. Still contemplating.
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RM1,150 psf onwards.

Pay downpayment.

Issue 2nd cheque post dated soon for second 10%.

Fast! Time to act before too late.

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U forget to add...

Sign spa within one week.....irespective if yr loan approved or not

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U forget to add...

Sign spa within one week.....irespective if yr loan approved or not
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QUOTE(bigmamma @ Aug 11 2016, 11:56 PM)
No Jalan lah friend. As I am their "loyal" follower, they called to ask if I am interested. They said long queue. RM1190psf for that area, I think cannot go wrong even though density is damned high. More over size is manageable i.e. Less than 800sf. Still contemplating.
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unless the market goes even worse in 4 years time..like u said...prob cant go wrong.

how solid is monoland? any risk in the dev itself?
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no carpark also BBB here?
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some of my expats are staying in condos next to sky suites

the existing condo they are staying cant even rent out, most of them are unoccupied

now add another dev, this area will have more ghost living than human
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some of my expats are staying in condos next to sky suites

the existing condo they are staying cant even rent out, most of them are unoccupied

now add another dev, this area will have more ghost living than human
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This area very hard to find tenants recently.
Owners asking prices high only.lol
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unless the market goes even worse in 4 years time..like u said...prob cant go wrong.

how solid is monoland? any risk in the dev itself?
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Anybody's guess lah on Monoland. So far they are so good. Will they get into trouble like Mammoth Empire, I don't know. I think as long as they don't invite Paris Hilton, they should be ok and the fact that their sales is so good so funding also no issue unless due to mismanagement of fund.
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QUOTE(bigmamma @ Aug 12 2016, 10:36 AM)
Anybody's guess lah on Monoland. So far they are so good. Will they get into trouble like Mammoth Empire, I don't know. I think as long as they don't invite Paris Hilton, they should be ok and the fact that their sales is so good so funding also no issue unless due to mismanagement of fund.
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i think they have many more successful story than Mammoth Empire, all their buyers laughing to the banks
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QUOTE(meteoraniac @ Aug 12 2016, 10:00 AM)
some of my expats are staying in condos next to sky suites

the existing condo they are staying cant even rent out, most of them are unoccupied

now add another dev, this area will have more ghost living than human
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pls share what condos are this? hampshire?
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Gonna be BBB BBB BBB... as so many pipu I know going. In 3-4 hours finished
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QUOTE(meteoraniac @ Aug 12 2016, 10:00 AM)
some of my expats are staying in condos next to sky suites

the existing condo they are staying cant even rent out, most of them are unoccupied

now add another dev, this area will have more ghost living than human
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rent sure can rent out de...

its a matter of price and pride nia. tongue.gif
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Gonna be BBB BBB BBB... as so many pipu I know going. In 3-4 hours finished
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really? then why need showroom?
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pls share what condos are this? hampshire?
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park view and idaman .. immediate neighbours

another condo within 100m from skysuites, marc resi is still doing quite okay, one expat like it there so much he upgraded to bigger unit from his small unit..

but my opinion is just sharing from my circle of expats colleague..
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park view and idaman .. immediate neighbours

another condo within 100m from skysuites, marc resi is still doing quite okay, one expat like it there so much he upgraded to bigger unit from his small unit..

but my opinion is just sharing from my circle of expats colleague..
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ur opinion is appreciated

idaman always suffered badly not sure why. my expat colleagues never looked to stay there. park view is really dated and tenant profile is questionable...

as I know marc and vipod and lesser extent, summer suites, are doing really well
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QUOTE(meteoraniac @ Aug 11 2016, 11:41 PM)
park view and idaman .. immediate neighbours

another condo within 100m from skysuites, marc resi is still doing quite okay, one expat like it there so much he upgraded to bigger unit from his small unit..

but my opinion is just sharing from my circle of expats colleague..
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agreed 100%. My friend who has/had a few units in both above condos hv mentioned tht for

1. Parkview: Many ME & good expats moved to Vipod (some to soho suite)
2. Idaman: Forgot the reason but ALL THIS WHILE doing badly n he had to lower rental a lot 2-3 yrs back onward

Marc resi is still performing well!
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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 12 2016, 12:43 PM)
Gonna be BBB BBB BBB... as so many pipu I know going. In 3-4 hours finished
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How many u going to buy
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Idaman Residence units are large right? Heard the management wasn't so good.

Parkview doesn't look like its in KLCC location. Haha.
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IF Rumawip come to this area soon

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how thin.. like midfields one?

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Sure BBB?

Got a call from them to put 10% dp now and another 10% next month cuz piling work will be competing very soon. If so BBB normal kuli like me won't get a call from monoland.

900 units seem very hard to digest. I believe the BBB scene for monoland is over. Moreover they are only launch 1st to 40th floors aka their 1st phase.

Maybe can go 6c6c.. or else wait for phase 2 with 100 psf increase. Not too bad also.
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how thin.. like midfields one?
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The wall between the units are not made from bricks. I think is not worth to pay even 1000psf. I am not sure the first hand vortex buyer know about this when they buy.
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i know in some overseas countries such as Aus NZL and PNG, the internal walls are always steels and boards only...be in landed or highrise....maybe the wages of bricklayers are too expensive in those countries or maybe bricks for internal works are overated....I don't know. So far there isn't any adverse incident reports on this move....

but in Malaysia we have cheap labours.....
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I think one sifu told me NEVER buy a project where they have 1000units of almost similar units....for investment....

you will be fighting with 999 owners for rent or subsale.....no matter how affortable it is.
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Sales is so undeniably slowwwwww..

Probably because ppl don't want to wake up to 10m away from park view condo, menara TA or 20m away from menara pristige.

Location is definitely a win without a doubt but investing in high rise without a view and being blocked by other buildings so close to each to each other is just horrible.
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High rise buildings of course not all internal walls will be made of bricks lor..sure got some RC internal walls
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how tall sky suites? How many level? 1150psf is a nice price. walking distance less than 10 minutes to KLCC. 12 minutes to KLCC LRT.

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how tall sky suites? How many level? 1150psf is a nice price. walking distance less than 10 minutes to KLCC.
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3 mins to be exact. 😆
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I think one sifu told me NEVER buy a project where they have 1000units of almost similar units....for investment....

you will be fighting with 999 owners for rent or subsale.....no matter how affortable it is.
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U see star city even worse.. All almost same size
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U see star city even worse.. All almost same size
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And the puchong project...cant remember its name lioa...think like 2000 or 5000 units....

Yeah parklane....
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im interested. any agent can pm me pls?

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This project anyone got breakdown of unit sizes?
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This project anyone got breakdown of unit sizes?
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6xx 8xx and 9xx.

6xx are 2 beds.
8xx and 9xx are 3 beds.

6 units per floor serviced by 4 lifts. 3 towers.

1100psf. 1150psf. 1200psf.
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QUOTE(mthc @ Aug 15 2016, 04:20 PM)
6xx 8xx and 9xx.

6xx are 2 beds.
8xx and 9xx are 3 beds.

6 units per floor serviced by 4 lifts. 3 towers.

1100psf. 1150psf. 1200psf.
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thanks for the info. smaller unit is cheaper? thats kind of weird
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thanks for the info. smaller unit is cheaper? thats kind of weird
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Same price across the whole floor it seems.

Just that block A B C fetches 1100 1150 1200 respectively.

Not too sure. I blow water only. Later ppl shoot me.
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thanks for the info. smaller unit is cheaper? thats kind of weird
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only one small unit per floor nia...

facing lifts...sandwiched by emergency staircases......

biggest units all corner units....more light and views (whatever outside views that's)
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only one small unit per floor nia...

facing lifts...sandwiched by emergency staircases......

biggest units all corner units....more light and views (whatever outside views that's)
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Aug 15 2016, 04:54 PM)
only one small unit per floor nia...

facing lifts...sandwiched by emergency staircases......

biggest units all corner units....more light and views (whatever outside views that's)
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Feel 818 sq ft the best bang for the buck. Corner unit. But duno why starting from 1050 psf.. cheaper than the others.
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Feel 818 sq ft the best bang for the buck. Corner unit. But duno why starting from 1050 psf.. cheaper than the others.
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650 sq ft no need to dream. Bo liao.
No car park. Need to rent.
If want facilities, need to pay additional monthly charges.
Maintenance fee RM0.40 to RM0.50 psf
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650 sq ft no need to dream. Bo liao.
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bo liao bcos they only released 40units so far????
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wah.. wtf? pay 40-50cents maintenance yet have to pay for the facilities ?
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i know in some overseas countries such as Aus NZL and PNG, the internal walls are always steels and boards only...be in landed or highrise....maybe the wages of bricklayers are too expensive in those countries or maybe bricks for internal works are overated....I don't know. So far there isn't any adverse incident reports on this move....

but in Malaysia we have cheap labours.....
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The disadvantage using dry wall system are hollowness and not sound proof. So at night, dont pump too hard.
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QUOTE(mthc @ Aug 15 2016, 04:20 PM)
6xx 8xx and 9xx.

6xx are 2 beds.
8xx and 9xx are 3 beds.

6 units per floor serviced by 4 lifts. 3 towers.

1100psf. 1150psf. 1200psf.
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How much expected rental 8xx sq feet can fetch. Installment around 4k if 80 percent loan
Maintenance not yet Kira yet

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The  disadvantage using dry wall system are hollowness and not sound proof. So at night, dont pump too hard.
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I believe in overseas they inserted insulation...not hallow de.

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I believe in overseas they inserted insulation...not hallow de.
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Keke....i dunno whoa....
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Parkview RM700psf asking aso got leh...

KLCC no doubt is the focal point of Klang Valley, however, the market in KLCC is very co-related to the macroeconomic situation, especially the foreign direct investment coming into Malaysia as well as the no. of professional expats (hence no of foreign co setting up HQ) coming into Malaysia.

The risk is that Malaysia faces an enormous challenge to continue to attract good quality expats into the country and the rising cost for companies that opted to reduce cost by moving their offices out of the city centre.

The KLCC market generally has a lower night population and hence investors should be aware of the specific condo that they are investing because obviously the KLCC market has other factors to consider such as noises, walking distance conveniences and even the tenants profile of the condo or surrounding.

It is also worth noting that several condos in KLCC market is sometimes sold to "big investors or those related to tan sri owner of developers" who generally able to hold their properties for a long time. So if you cannot hold for long, then you need to re-strategise.

You need to know that the KLCC Market has a pretty huge gap in terms of Range of PSF within the subsale market and also the primary market. Size of the unit is a factor itself. You can find as low as RM700psf... and also as high as RM2,500psf in this market.
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"You need to know that the KLCC Market has a pretty huge gap in terms of Range of PSF within the subsale market and also the primary market. Size of the unit is a factor itself. You can find as low as RM700psf... and also as high as RM2,500psf in this market."

why this sky suites so cheap 1150psf at that area can catch up 2000psf.
Very weird market.

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Got compare with parkview or idaman?
Parkview got auction unit rm387k better buy?
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Siao... people and biz are moving away from KL centre and yet these people still want to build it there. Some more HUGE unit numbers
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the gravity of city center likely move downwards closer to 118
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the gravity of city center likely move downwards closer to 118
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118, bbcc-plaza rakyat, TRX, Cochrane, Bandar Malaysia.
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118, bbcc-plaza rakyat, TRX, Cochrane, Bandar Malaysia.
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Who are the big players will be occupying 118 trz n bdr malaysia?
Jibby ah?
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Who are the big players will be occupying 118 trz n bdr malaysia?
Jibby ah?
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I guess big companies still like KLCC area more, even when all those jibby project is completed.
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I guess big companies still like KLCC area more, even when all those jibby project is completed.
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The trend has begin to change.
Nowadays big multinational like cheaper land or cheaper rent to reduce cost.
For example, big global IT company or bank's back end support would rather build in area less expensive e.g. Cyberjaya, Bandar Utama, TPM Bukit Jalil compared to KLCC etc.

KLCC area is still good but its more and more like a tourist place or convention place now.
Next time, more engineering firm may relocate to Bandar Malaysia and Financial and insurance firms may relocate to TRX.

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The trend has begin to change.
Nowadays big multinational like cheaper land or cheaper rent to reduce cost.
For example, big global IT company or bank's back end support would rather build in area less expensive e.g. Cyberjaya, Bandar Utama, TPM Bukit Jalil compared to KLCC etc.

KLCC area is still good but its more and more like a tourist place or convention place now.
Next time, more engineering firm may relocate to Bandar Malaysia and Financial and insurance firms may relocate to TRX.
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Many mnc already moved out from klcc to bangsar south. Kl central, damansara. left those half die mnc corporate partners with petronas at klcc
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Many mnc already moved out from klcc to bangsar south. Kl central, damansara.  left those half die mnc corporate partners with petronas at klcc
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Yeap. Bangsar South, KL Sentral and Damansara and PJ too.
KLCC/Bukit Bintang area is not the centre of commercial universe in Klang Valley like it used to be anymore.
More and more decentralization to the suburbs and other area in the city. etc
KLCC area is a huge tourist attraction area though

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U guys need to understand...
When one moved out of klcc...has the vacsnt place being replaced w other tennat?
If yes...then klcc is still in demand..
If no...then klcc in deep sheet...

If all the above what 118 trx bdr malaysia bbcc plaza rakyat are a reality......then we are facing serious office glut lioa.....
We are simply not shanghai ot london or ny....

Stupid politicians (or politician)...an easy way to get donation....
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"You need to know that the KLCC Market has a pretty huge gap in terms of Range of PSF within the subsale market and also the primary market. Size of the unit is a factor itself. You can find as low as RM700psf... and also as high as RM2,500psf in this market."

why this sky suites so cheap 1150psf at that area can catch up  2000psf.
Very weird market.
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Where to find 700psf ?
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Who here book liao?
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Who here book liao?
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No booking.... buyer should be signing SPA from today
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No booking.... buyer should be signing SPA from today
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Whilst price is attractive, density of more than 900 units is really a big negative point. Weighing the plus and minus, is it still a good buy now? Need advice as I hv not decided whether to take up their offer. Tq
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Where to find 700psf ?
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700psf probably are those super big units which are not easy to rent out, if one bedder below 1000sf, dont think can get 700psf in klcc area
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In KLCC .. not really see how much RM ??? PSF , just look at ( how many room & how look nice Interior design !!

I have marc KLCC , only one room (630sq )can rent out RM5500 for 4 year now . bco now rich ppl in KLCC all looking Interior design and Luxury furniture .. then can Pay more money for rental

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QUOTE(j0hn____ @ Aug 18 2016, 03:55 PM)
In KLCC .. not really see how much RM ??? PSF , just look at ( how many room & how look nice Interior design !!

I have marc KLCC , only one room (630sq )can rent out RM5500 for 4 year now . bco now rich ppl in KLCC all looking Interior design and Luxury furniture .. then can Pay more money  for rental
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Wow. That is very good rental. Must be very nice furnishing. How much roughly did you spend on reno and furnishing?
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Wow. That is very good rental. Must be very nice furnishing. How much roughly did you spend on reno and furnishing?
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Like RM50K~RM100K ( Appliances+ furniture )

My house pic in here: https://www.facebook.com/everyday.johncheng...34876254&type=3

.... if u do well in your house ppl will take good care your house too .. bco live in KLCC and pay so Exp live in your house ( Not the same level guy with common people ).. there also pay for the maid to take care your house

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QUOTE(j0hn____ @ Aug 18 2016, 05:06 PM)
Like RM50K~RM100K ( Appliances+ furniture )

My house pic in here: https://www.facebook.com/everyday.johncheng...34876254&type=3

.... if u do well in your house ppl will take good care your house too .. bco live in KLCC and pay so Exp live in your house ( Not the same level guy with common people  ).. there also pay for the maid to take care your house
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i saw your unit on airbnb before smile.gif
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i saw your unit on airbnb before smile.gif
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Yes.. now i let my friends to play this.. he say to me can get more RM5500 and sometime i can use also ... then just play play see how lol.. so far now i try this 30days .. get back only RM5K .... he say need some time ~~ hahalet young ppl just try more!
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QUOTE(j0hn____ @ Aug 18 2016, 03:55 PM)
In KLCC .. not really see how much RM ??? PSF , just look at ( how many room & how look nice Interior design !!

I have marc KLCC , only one room (630sq )can rent out RM5500 for 4 year now . bco now rich ppl in KLCC all looking Interior design and Luxury furniture .. then can Pay more money  for rental
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Lost with your statement
You have been doing Airbnb for 4years?
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how much to furnish like this.
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I think buyer really queue so long... I told them i'm outstation and would like to sign SPA end of this month, they request to bank in 10% to them first then sign SnP later, or else my unit will be release to waiting list if without payment in 3 working days.
Haiz... nowadays buyer not easy also, I need to be so polite mcm I serve the sales person. hahaha
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I think buyer really queue so long... I told them i'm outstation and would like to sign SPA end of this month, they request to bank in 10% to them first then sign SnP later, or else my unit will be release to waiting list if without payment in 3 working days.
Haiz... nowadays buyer not easy also, I need to be so polite mcm I serve the sales person. hahaha
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Is there a way for Me (who had never bought property from Monoland) to buy this Sky Suites?



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Is there a way for Me (who had never bought property from Monoland) to buy this Sky Suites?
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I heard all sold out but some people hold few units willing to let go with instant 50k cash.
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I heard all sold out but some people hold few units willing to let go with instant 50k cash.
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Just signed SnP today. Saw many walk-in customers trying their luck. All 600+ units allocated, so no extra to sell to public. SA told me that waiting list from new registrants is very long. Loyal customers allocated a unit cannot do their own transfer. Must return to Monoland if don't want. Phase 2 will be launched soon..all facing KLCC. Still do not know whether should be happy or not. 900+ units. Praying hard that my loan will be approved else die standing. A risk that we hv to take.
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Is there a way for Me (who had never bought property from Monoland) to buy this Sky Suites?
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hmmm..... I think it's difficult, even though unit drop from previous buyer also immediately release to those queuing. My friend release his two units facing klcc RM9xxk immediately taken by the queue. Maybe you can call in sales office see if they are open for queue up list. blush.gif
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I heard all sold out but some people hold few units willing to let go with instant 50k cash.
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wow! 50k.. I should have earn back some bites from it.. manage to lock in few but earn zero letting go for gd friends.. ai ya.. few hundred k gone. haha:D biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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hmmm..... I think it's difficult, even though unit drop from previous buyer also immediately release to those queuing. My friend release his two units facing klcc RM9xxk immediately taken by the queue. Maybe you can call in sales office see if they are open for queue up list.  blush.gif
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Got facing KLCC meh? All units facing KLCC will only be released in Phase 2 according to SA. Maybe your friend's ones are like mine. Can see KLCC if you stick your head out the window 3ft. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif KLCC view...
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QUOTE(bigmamma @ Aug 19 2016, 07:33 PM)
Just signed SnP today. Saw many walk-in customers trying their luck. All 600+ units allocated, so no extra to sell to public. SA told me that waiting list from new registrants is very long. Loyal customers allocated a unit cannot do their own transfer. Must return to Monoland if don't want. Phase 2 will be launched soon..all facing KLCC. Still do not know whether should be happy or not. 900+ units. Praying hard that my loan will be approved else die standing. A risk that we hv to take.
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If can't get loan then 1% gone... but is ok la, 1% v.s psf price compare with current market. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(bigmamma @ Aug 19 2016, 07:37 PM)
Got facing KLCC meh? All units facing KLCC will only be released in Phase 2 according to SA. Maybe your friend's ones are like mine. Can see KLCC if you stick your head out the window 3ft. rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif KLCC view...
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oh yeah... below 40th floor need to seng nget your head to see the jagung coz block by the round hotel. I choose facing behind, price close to 200k different from my friend unit. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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How many unit phase 1 or 2?
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oh yeah... below 40th floor need to seng nget your head to see the jagung coz block by the round hotel. I choose facing behind, price close to 200k different from my friend unit.  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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200k difference, so much?
front and back same floor difference by RM50psf only
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200k difference, so much?
front and back same floor difference by RM50psf only
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oh yea, mine lower floor and smaller unit 6xxsf, his released unit is higher floor 7xxsf. Imo I looking into pricing only since KLCC area everywhere is buildings, either you really get penthse view to see the klcc..or ma as well look for cheaper price unit. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SYYMY @ Aug 19 2016, 08:21 PM)
oh yea, mine lower floor and smaller unit 6xxsf, his released unit is higher floor 7xxsf. Imo I looking into pricing only since KLCC area everywhere is buildings, either you really get penthse view to see the klcc..or ma as well look for cheaper price unit.  laugh.gif
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facing idaman car park?
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facing idaman car park?
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residence start from 5th floor onwards right? i'm choosing few floors above, idaman car park if not mistaken 5 story isn't? should be won't directly facing car-park. sweat.gif
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residence start from 5th floor onwards right? i'm choosing few floors above, idaman car park if not mistaken 5 story isn't? should be won't directly facing car-park.  sweat.gif
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Where's the Sales Gallery ya? or need to call Penang's office?



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Where's the Sales Gallery ya? or need to call Penang's office?
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KL sales gallery at jalan pinang. Bro, I suggest you call both office to check biggrin.gif
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KL sales gallery at jalan pinang. Bro, I suggest you call both office to check  biggrin.gif
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Bro, u which block? They all said block A is the best...facing hotel is east facing, facing belakang is west facing thus can be panas. hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif
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Bro, u which block? They all said block A is the best...facing hotel is east facing, facing belakang is west facing thus can be panas.  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Block A psf also more expensive, I get block C. Malaysia facing where also panas... haha
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Block A psf also more expensive, I get block C. Malaysia facing where also panas... haha
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Yes.Malaysia facing where also panas BUT those facing West will be SUPER panas in the evening.

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Sandwicjed btw buildings...u will want to see some daylight.....
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Wonder why panas? Face back face idaman, face front face hotel. Better face hotel at least new building Mah
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Yes.Malaysia facing where also panas BUT those facing West will be SUPER panas in the evening.
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pavilion suites sold out the west side first. at a premium. but it was sort of facing klcc la.
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pavilion suites sold out the west side first. at a premium. but it was sort of facing klcc la.
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In this case, KLCC view override west facing hot side issue.
Case by case basis mah. what I meant is everything else equal....people would prefer not to have condo that faces hot evening sun. if got shades from another building...different story la.

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So sorry .. if u buy a house facing not good & darkness .. You VERY VERY Hard to sell , May be rent out ok.. But 100% is must very low price also .
( like Summer Suites - Jalan Sultan Ismail , Binjai 8 - KLCC ..... )

like Marc Residence KLCC , tower A is bad View , tower B is good View ... You can see , Tower B more easy to rent out & sell good price.

Why u choose bad facing unit ? bco low price is it ?
then ppl next time buy your house & rent your place also is bco LOW PRICE !!!!

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QUOTE(bigmamma @ Aug 19 2016, 07:33 PM)
Just signed SnP today. Saw many walk-in customers trying their luck. All 600+ units allocated, so no extra to sell to public. SA told me that waiting list from new registrants is very long. Loyal customers allocated a unit cannot do their own transfer. Must return to Monoland if don't want. Phase 2 will be launched soon..all facing KLCC. Still do not know whether should be happy or not. 900+ units. Praying hard that my loan will be approved else die standing. A risk that we hv to take.
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What is the price for smallest unit?
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the unit dont come with car park. have to rent from management. how much expected rental? is it common condo in klcc area dont sell with car park? this project maintainance fee expected how much?
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QUOTE(j0hn____ @ Aug 20 2016, 07:27 AM)
So sorry .. if u buy a house facing  not good & darkness .. You VERY VERY Hard to sell , May be rent out ok.. But 100% is must very low price also .
( like Summer Suites - Jalan Sultan Ismail , Binjai 8 - KLCC  ..... )

like Marc Residence KLCC , tower A is bad View , tower B is good View ... You can see , Tower B more easy to rent out & sell good price.

Why u choose bad facing  unit ? bco low price is it ?
then ppl next time buy your house & rent your place also is bco LOW PRICE !!!!
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Don't worry bro, expensive buy expensive sell; cheap price buy cheap price sell, it's very fair game. As an investor we knew it well and accept the game rules.
I think same project, same block, different facing won't differ the profit gap so much ba. Rich tycoon go for higher price and better unit; poor little ikan bilis like me without much cash flow got no choice have to take cheaper unit to squeeze into d money game lor biggrin.gif or else who buy those so-call bad units huh icon_rolleyes.gif

rental no worry la~ as long as you manage to dig out d super specialist agents there, treat them nice nice n dun LC them, they will have way to get rid your unit for you.
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Yes.Malaysia facing where also panas BUT those facing West will be SUPER panas in the evening.
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the unit dont come with car park. have to rent from management. how much expected rental? is it common condo in klcc area dont sell with car park? this project maintainance fee expected how much?
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Heard RM160 pm for the first 3 years.
But no assigned car park, so users need to remember where he/she park his/ her car every day.

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Wrote an article about it:
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no picture of the sales gallery and the crowds?
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yeah, selling cheaper than Vortex.
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this has a lot more units than vortex, right?
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congrats boss for another trophy buy!

this has a lot more units than vortex, right?
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In fact, Sky Suites is priced cheaper than all its previous products (sub sales price).
Cheaper than the current asking price for Vortex, Vipod, Quadro and Soho.

From PTML review, it shows 986 units altogether.
Monoland's business model is about playing with plot ratio, that is the recipe to get the psf low.
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In fact, Sky Suites is priced cheaper than all its previous products (sub sales price).
Cheaper than the current asking price for Vortex, Vipod, Quadro and Soho.

From PTML review, it shows 986 units altogether.
Monoland's business model is about playing with plot ratio, that is the recipe to get the psf low.
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The land size is also sizable compared to their previous launches. Vortex and Vipod for example, less than one acre.

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no picture of the sales gallery and the crowds?
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Ha ha...sales gallery got nothing about Sky Suites....mana ada crowd....buyer make appointment sign SPA and pay 20% down.....smooth sales ..
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Ha ha...sales gallery got nothing about Sky Suites....mana ada crowd....buyer make appointment sign SPA and pay 20% down.....smooth sales ..
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No crowds nothing.. how to be hottest property of the year? wub.gif
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No crowds nothing.. how to be hottest property of the year?  wub.gif
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http://www.skysuites-klcc.com/

Surprise to see a website ...ha ha. Vortex also don't have...no information at all but this one at least got some info to public.
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http://www.skysuites-klcc.com/

Surprise to see a website ...ha ha.  Vortex also don't have...no information at all but this one at least got some info to public.
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despite this still fully sold..geng
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'Fully sold' is a bit misleading....
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From PTML review, it shows 986 units altogether.
Monoland's business model is about playing with plot ratio, that is the recipe to get the psf low.
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They are 986 units for block a to c.
Plus 200 units for block d.
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wow....nice..kl version of marina bay sands. very tall building right next to klcc. This one is going to be an icon of KL.

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wow....nice..kl version of marina bay sands. very tall building right next to klcc. This one is going to be an icon of KL.
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25m pool is rather small for 900 units.
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Feel like cheap copycat of the real thing.....tis marina sands wannabe

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25m pool is rather small for 900 units.
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They are 986 units for block a to c.
Plus 200 units for block d.
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Block d targeting on Ascot residence or Hardrock hotel.
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Block d targeting on Ascot residence or Hardrock hotel.
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beside unless the deal is inked.....one can never tell the final outcome of block D.
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still its part of its density.
beside unless the deal is inked.....one can never tell the final outcome of block D.
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Speaking of link. There is a bridge linked from block B to the block D, at like 35th floor.
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Speaking of link. There is a bridge linked from block B to the block D,  at like 35th floor.
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wat is the purpose for the linked bridge at 35th floor?

for residents to access the F&B in the so called 'future hotel' ah?
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wat is the purpose for the linked bridge at 35th floor?

for residents to access the F&B in the so called 'future hotel' ah?
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That is the only link it seems, block D has separate entrance than the block ABC (classified as residential), the current apdl obtained only for the residential
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No many investors will pay to use the facilities area.....
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Just looked at the units layout...really wield, all the rooms slanted to one side or another, when wanting to arrange furniture won't it be a big headache?
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No crowds nothing.. how to be hottest property of the year?  wub.gif
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the keyword here is MORE FRIENDLY.........
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The rooms at the flank of each side reduced the need of corridor.
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The layout with the units at triangular angles, just seems weird to me...will be hard for furnishing?
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The layout with the units at triangular angles, just seems weird to me...will be hard for furnishing?
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it wouldn't be as difficult as vortex.
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The rooms at the flank of each side reduced the need of corridor.
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sorry dun understand.
can elaborate more??? thanks

you mean corridor inside the unit or common corridor outside the units?

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sorry dun understand.
can elaborate more??? thanks

you mean corridor inside the unit or common corridor outside the units?
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the website up, layout is inside
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So is there anymore unit still available for the public ?
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http://www.skysuites-klcc.com/index.html

the website up, layout is inside
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Website already being shared multiple times here
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best to buy during the down cycle
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True, HarpArtist. But my advice to all is the same. You can buy now if this is already the bottom of the down-cycle. Who know for sure? Plus the retaining power of most people are below you, assuming. And you have plenty of cash lying around not doing anything other than some FD or monetary products. smile.gif
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Got compare with parkview or idaman?
Parkview got auction unit rm387k better buy?
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Sorry this reply is late. The question of whether a property is a good buy relies greatly upon what it is intended for, and the wealth (more of retaining power) of the purchaser. For most of us, money is limited. Choices have to be made. With my current standing, it is a good buy. But that is because I can also bunk over if I have to be in KLCC area till late. As you have already know, there is almost no opportunity to view auction properties. I have seen non-auction units in Idaman that range from well-kept to total mess. Cheers!
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Yeap. Bangsar South, KL Sentral and Damansara and PJ too.
KLCC/Bukit Bintang area is not the centre of commercial universe in Klang Valley like it used to be anymore.
More and more decentralization to the suburbs and other area in the city. etc
KLCC area is a huge tourist attraction area though
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Along this line, yes, it is quite true. Petronas insisted some companies to be based around the towers. However, not many can afford the increasing rental by KLCC Management. Plus the requirement to change ID every two years or so for the tenants in Suria Shoppping Mall.
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Along this line, yes, it is quite true. Petronas insisted some companies to be based around the towers. However, not many can afford the increasing rental by KLCC Management. Plus the requirement to change ID every two years or so for the tenants in Suria Shoppping Mall.
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Hi all, May I ask which is the best block to buy? Block A, B C or D?
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Also, may I ask is this SkySuites KLCC project worth to invest for rental purposes? Need some inputs, thanks
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Also, may I ask is this SkySuites KLCC project worth to invest for rental purposes? Need some inputs, thanks
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What research you have done of monoland project or klcc area?
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This project 100 times better than those in bk jalil.
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Also, may I ask is this SkySuites KLCC project worth to invest for rental purposes? Need some inputs, thanks
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1000 units to compete for tenant and sub sales buyer when vp, so u need to have a strategic plan before you buy
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1000 units to compete for tenant and sub sales buyer when vp, so u need to have a strategic plan before you buy
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Now where to find place no thousand units. Even not in one devvelopment, next door or opposite or just behind total sump up also more than thousand


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1000 units to compete for tenant and sub sales buyer when vp, so u need to have a strategic plan before you buy
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For that type of price, I don't mind. Problem is I want to buy also no chance. Waiting list is long and not many who have been allocated units are giving up as they know price is good. Anyone has Jalan to buy direct from developer at the launch price, pls let me know.
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Wouldn't Idaman offer better value since its now about 800+ psf? You also can choose a unit with views and carpark plus facilities already included in maintenance. Almost all the units in Sky Suites being sold right now has no views.

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Wouldn't Idaman offer better value since its now about 800+ psf? You also can choose a unit with views and carpark plus facilities already included in maintenance.
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Idaman indeed is good value.
However for comparison... 915sqft idaman vs 818sqft sky suites....
You have 1 vs 3bedrooms. More efficient layout.
One key vs dual key
Conventional facilities vs rooftop facilities
Idaman is coming 10years in 2018 where sky suites is brand new.
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this is a good buy but you must able to hold until market improved.
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QUOTE(gks @ Sep 1 2016, 11:02 AM)
Idaman indeed is good value.
However for comparison... 915sqft idaman vs 818sqft sky suites....
You have 1 vs 3bedrooms. More efficient layout.
One key vs dual key
Conventional facilities vs rooftop facilities
Idaman is coming 10years in 2018 where sky suites is brand new.
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good comparative analysis rclxm9.gif
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I'm an existing purchaser of Monoland previous project. Main reason for not buying sky Suites is Developer has changed the ceiling height from floor to ceiling only 8' 6" from their latest project Vortex. Sky Suites have same ceiling as Vortex. Which is very low and not up to high end condo spec. I believe sub sale price will not go high due to low ceiling.
Location is good. But paying nearly 1 mil for no carpark and no view really not my entry.
Unit are facing Windows will hard to get tenant also hard to sell. Unless u rent out in low price and sell in low as well. Good Luck !!!
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QUOTE(gks @ Sep 1 2016, 11:02 AM)
Idaman indeed is good value.
However for comparison... 915sqft idaman vs 818sqft sky suites....
You have 1 vs 3bedrooms. More efficient layout.
One key vs dual key
Conventional facilities vs rooftop facilities
Idaman is coming 10years in 2018 where sky suites is brand new.
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give u more bedrooms mean more efficient layout?

then everyone must buy mahsing punya garden resi lioa loh.....5xxsq 4 bedrooms...sure super efficient.

something got to give....more 'small bedrooms', narrow living and kitchen space.......only good for hours biz model....or airbnb....of some kind.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 2 2016, 12:29 PM)
give u more bedrooms mean more efficient layout?

then everyone must buy mahsing punya garden resi lioa loh.....5xxsq 4 bedrooms...sure super efficient.

something got to give....more 'small bedrooms', narrow living and kitchen space.......only good for hours biz model....or airbnb....of some kind.
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It was not about the quantity of rooms but the utilization of space. Space that fit for the purpose. This will translated into higher return provided all others are equal.


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QUOTE(KLCCKLCC @ Sep 2 2016, 12:22 PM)
I'm an existing purchaser of Monoland previous project. Main reason for not buying sky Suites is Developer has changed the ceiling height from floor to ceiling only 8' 6" from their latest project Vortex. Sky Suites have same ceiling as Vortex. Which is very low and not up to high end condo spec. I believe sub sale price will not go high due to low ceiling.
Location is good. But paying nearly 1 mil for no carpark and no view really not my entry.
Unit are facing Windows will hard to get tenant also hard to sell. Unless u rent out in low price and sell in low as well. Good Luck !!!
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Low ceiling is the recipe to lower down the cost. If it can build 5 storey of condo in 4 storey overall ceiling height. Construction cost saving is 20%.
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 2 2016, 01:06 PM)
Low ceiling is the recipe to lower down the cost. If it can build 5 storey of condo in 4 storey overall ceiling height. Construction cost saving is 20%.
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Reduced ceiling height definitely will help bring down the cost but the example above was quite overblown as you still need to build the same facilities, fittings and finishes, concrete floor etc.


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Reduced ceiling height definitely will help bring down the cost but the example above was quite overblown as you still need to build the same facilities, fittings and finishes, concrete floor etc.
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maybe not 20% saving, ranges from 1-19% saving. rclxms.gif
Cost saving is the main motivation to build lower ceiling height.
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Reduced ceiling height definitely will help bring down the cost but the example above was quite overblown as you still need to build the same facilities, fittings and finishes, concrete floor etc.
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not actually....

compared with normal new condo of say 10.6' over 8.6'...every floor you save 2', meaning every 5 floors you 'gain' one floor. Cost wise, everything else equal, you got to sell one floor extra for every 5 floors you built.
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It was not about the quantity of rooms but the utilization of space. Space that fit for the purpose. This will translated into higher return provided all others are equal.
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that provided you understand the rental market and targeted market well, meaning only targeting at single expat that doesn't do any entertainment at home. basically a place for him/her to sleep.

but there are 1000units in one single development......if you take into acc of dual key, it will be easily 1500 or more units of similar configuration.

like I said earlier...for short term tenant, perhaps it fits the purpose.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 2 2016, 02:58 PM)
that provided you understand the rental market and targeted market well, meaning only targeting at single expat that doesn't do any entertainment at home. basically a place for him/her to sleep.

but there are 1000units in one single development......if you take into acc of dual key, it will be easily 1500 or more units of similar configuration.

like I said earlier...for short term tenant, perhaps it fits the purpose.
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What is your understanding of tenant market demand in KLCC then? And expected rental they willing to pay?
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What is your understanding of tenant market demand in KLCC then? And expected rental they willing to pay?
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I dun know tenant market demand in KLCC and I am not buying.

I guess the mantra of 'we will build and then they shall come' should apply for monoland projects and tenant market in general......
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not actually....

compared with normal new condo of say 10.6' over 8.6'...every floor you save 2', meaning every 5 floors you 'gain' one floor. Cost wise, everything else equal, you got to sell one floor extra for every 5 floors you built.
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no. of units are pre-determined when the km is submitted, and approved by the applied plot ratio.. the savings on cost does not increase the capacity to build an extra floor, hence not about having to sell extra floor..

imho, the lower constructions cost from the inferior specs is likely to be translated into competitive pricing while protecting (or in some cases, increasing the margin)..

just the reduction in sizes to make it more affordable in terms of absolute price, popularized by bkp in the mk series, all sorts of strategies are deployed nowadays, lowering ceiling, optional carparks, developer retaining ownership of the clubhouse and certain facilities, etc.

juz m2c..
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What is your understanding of tenant market demand in KLCC then? And expected rental they willing to pay?
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boss, m-city attracting quite a few city expats afaik.. price range below 3k is well absorbed for f/f 2-bedder..
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Now where to find place no thousand units. Even not in one devvelopment, next door or opposite or just behind total sump up also more than thousand
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no. of units are pre-determined when the km is submitted, and approved by the applied plot ratio.. the savings on cost does not increase the capacity to build an extra floor, hence not about having to sell extra floor..

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Boss so in yr opinion what is the motivation behind given 8.6' high ceiling instead of 10.6'?


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Boss so in yr opinion what is the motivation behind given 8.6' high ceiling instead of 10.6'?
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To make the unit more cozy for asian sized humans. Sacarsm intended
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Haha unfortunately these premises are targeting on non-malaysians tenants prospects
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most Asian expats not that tall lah.....maybe ME and some Indians slightly taller....
can find shorter Asian expats de...... tongue.gif
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most Asian expats not that tall lah.....maybe ME and some Indians slightly taller....
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Is not bcoz of asian size. Is unit not look exclusive.
Hard to sell in future.
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havent seen with my own eyes but friends told me vortex units has some internal walls done with partition wood boards not even light or sand brick. if its true and they repeat the job on skysuites its probably wise to give this a miss.
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havent seen with my own eyes but friends told me vortex units has some internal walls done with partition wood boards not even light or sand brick. if its true and they repeat the job on skysuites its probably wise to give this a miss.
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havent seen with my own eyes but friends told me vortex units has some internal walls done with partition wood boards not even light or sand brick. if its true and they repeat the job on skysuites its probably wise to give this a miss.
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Is not bcoz of asian size. Is unit not look exclusive.
Hard to sell in future.
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people want to buy also no chansi leh.......no more units to sell...... biggrin.gif
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people want to buy also no chansi leh.......no more units to sell...... biggrin.gif
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You are first buyer for monoland project?
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But they do make good money for buyers up until recently....but who didnt make money for the last 7 yrs????
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No whoa...never bought monoland projects......

But they do make good money for buyers up until recently....but who didnt make money for the last 7 yrs????
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Good question !!! Problem started came up from Vortex. My unit hard to sell due to low ceiling and no carpark. After viewing many buyer give negative feedback which is low ceiling and no carpark. End up rental price also cannot go high. Skysuites have same ceiling height as Vortex. 😠😠😠
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Good question !!! Problem started came up from Vortex. My unit hard to sell due to low ceiling and no carpark. After viewing many buyer give negative feedback which is low ceiling and no carpark. End up rental price also cannot go high. Skysuites have same ceiling height as Vortex. 😠😠😠
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What price u want to sell your Vortex? At RM1300-1400 psf, I think you can get many buyers. It is all about how much you want to make. To make pocket money of RM100k, I think it is easily doable for Monoland projects initial buyers. Sky Suites is all about location. If it has all the things you want, high ceiling, car park, solid concrete wall, for that location, you are probably talking about RM1700-1800psf at least and not RM1100 which is by any standard cheap. Just hold it for a while and hopefully after completion which is 3 years, the property market may recover. I am still hopeful to buy 1 unit direct from developer. Have been following up, still no chance yet.
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What price u want to sell your Vortex? At RM1300-1400 psf, I think you can get many buyers. It is all about how much you want to make. To make pocket money of RM100k, I think it is easily doable for Monoland projects initial buyers. Sky Suites is all about location. If it has all the things you want, high ceiling, car park, solid concrete wall, for that location, you are probably talking about RM1700-1800psf at least and not RM1100 which is by any standard cheap. Just hold it for a while and hopefully after completion which is 3 years, the property market may recover. I am still hopeful to buy 1 unit direct from developer. Have been following up, still no chance yet.
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Have you check with developer for Skysuites? Concrete wall im not so sure. But Low Ceiling and No Carpark is comfirmed.

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Have you check with developer for Skysuites? Concrete wall im not so sure. But Low Ceiling and No Carpark is comfirmed.
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Have you check with developer for Skysuites? Concrete wall im not so sure. But Low Ceiling and No Carpark is comfirmed.
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Floor to floor 3.25m, 2.7m (or 9 ft) net ceiling height for Sky Suites. Slightly better than Vortex but not good enough.
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Actually a lot of condo with 9ft+ ceiling height.
8.5ft is definitely on low side however bear in mind, Vortex is designed with unit comes with plaster ceiling and fully air conditioned unless you personally want to install the ceiling fan.

For more generous developers (some are their signature development) they will give 10 or 11ft (without plaster ceiling which will easily take 6" away). I believe this is more exception than normal. Some development that utilising low cost structural design has 1ft depth beam across living and dining. if you want to cover this, the ceiling will be even lower.
Now, I am not sure this will be translated into extra 20% cost or not.
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What price u want to sell your Vortex? At RM1300-1400 psf, I think you can get many buyers. It is all about how much you want to make. To make pocket money of RM100k, I think it is easily doable for Monoland projects initial buyers. Sky Suites is all about location. If it has all the things you want, high ceiling, car park, solid concrete wall, for that location, you are probably talking about RM1700-1800psf at least and not RM1100 which is by any standard cheap. Just hold it for a while and hopefully after completion which is 3 years, the property market may recover. I am still hopeful to buy 1 unit direct from developer. Have been following up, still no chance yet.
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if there are rm1300-1400psf genuine offers, I believe many owners will queue up to sell lioa.....

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if there are rm1300-1400psf genuine offers, I believe many owners will queue up to sell lioa.....
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Good answer. You know klcc market well.

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Good answer. You know klcc market well.
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I must be lucky. Just sold my Vortex 19th floor for around RM1480psf. I initially thought it was too low. After hearing from you guys, I felt better. I just want to make RM100-200k cukuplah. So far so good for all my Monoland projects. Sky Suites, seriously, I think after 3-4 years, can make at least RM100k. Btw, I already Bought Sky Suites at RM1190psf. Hopefully good investment. Tq
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I must be lucky. Just sold my Vortex 19th floor for around RM1480psf. I initially thought it was too low. After hearing from you guys, I felt better. I just want to make RM100-200k cukuplah. So far so good for all my Monoland projects. Sky Suites, seriously, I think after 3-4 years, can make at least RM100k. Btw, I already Bought Sky Suites at RM1190psf. Hopefully good investment. Tq
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I must be lucky. Just sold my Vortex 19th floor for around RM1480psf. I initially thought it was too low. After hearing from you guys, I felt better. I just want to make RM100-200k cukuplah. So far so good for all my Monoland projects. Sky Suites, seriously, I think after 3-4 years, can make at least RM100k. Btw, I already Bought Sky Suites at RM1190psf. Hopefully good investment. Tq
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I must be lucky. Just sold my Vortex 19th floor for around RM1480psf. I initially thought it was too low. After hearing from you guys, I felt better. I just want to make RM100-200k cukuplah. So far so good for all my Monoland projects. Sky Suites, seriously, I think after 3-4 years, can make at least RM100k. Btw, I already Bought Sky Suites at RM1190psf. Hopefully good investment. Tq
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Put in 300k to 400k for next few months (they famous of fast progress and 20pc upfront when sign spa) and make 100k in 3yrs time? Roi very low...no?

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Good question !!! Problem started came up from Vortex. My unit hard to sell due to low ceiling and no carpark. After viewing many buyer give negative feedback which is low ceiling and no carpark. End up rental price also cannot go high. Skysuites have same ceiling height as Vortex. 😠😠😠
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Buy or rent low floor lo..low floor comes with 12ft ceiling height. Offset with no great high floor view lo.
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Put in 300k to 400k for next few months (they famous of fast progress and 20pc upfront when sign spa) and make 100k in 3yrs time? Roi very low...no?
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If it is RM400k, return is about 25%. Still not too bad. Can lah if still got chance to make RM100k. Keep my finger crossed. Cheers.
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If it is RM400k, return is about 25%. Still not too bad. Can lah if still got chance to make RM100k. Keep my finger crossed. Cheers.
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If you invest RM400K for 3 years RM100K return, the ROI is definitely not good. You probably better off will stock investment.
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If it is RM400k, return is about 25%. Still not too bad. Can lah if still got chance to make RM100k. Keep my finger crossed. Cheers.
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please lah...dun confuse people here.

your 100k is made over 4 or 4.5yrs, not 12months. therefore rightfully its 25% divide by 4 or 5.

beside, you do need to serve the interest during WIP.....total them up...you will see yr net yield.

Having said that, one report said that you will make 500k upon vp, not 100k........... tongue.gif
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please lah...dun confuse people here.

your 100k is made over 4 or 4.5yrs, not 12months. therefore rightfully its 25% divide by 4 or 5.

beside, you do need to serve the interest during WIP.....total them up...you will see yr net yield.

Having said that, one report said that you will make 500k upon vp, not 100k........... tongue.gif
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please lah...dun confuse people here.

your 100k is made over 4 or 4.5yrs, not 12months. therefore rightfully its 25% divide by 4 or 5.

beside, you do need to serve the interest during WIP.....total them up...you will see yr net yield.

Having said that, one report said that you will make 500k upon vp, not 100k........... tongue.gif
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Fren, I am not confusing people. Pls do not put words in my mouth. I said IF I have to pay RM400k which is quite correct (30% of purchased price around RM280k + installments for 3 years) and my expected returns is RM100k then I get 25% return. This is pure methamatics lah. When did I confuse people. Just because you don't feel this is a god project, you cannot condemn on comments of others. Like what GKS said to him 25% over 3 years is not a good return, it is a fact as it is his expectation vs mine. This forum is for sharing. I hv lost big time in other investment, maybe I am no good thus 25% if I can get for 3 years, I am satisfied. Thank you.
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QUOTE(bigmamma @ Sep 7 2016, 02:03 PM)
Fren, I am not confusing people. Pls do not put words in my mouth. I said IF I have to pay RM400k which is quite correct (30% of purchased price around RM280k + installments for 3 years) and my expected returns is RM100k then I get 25% return. This is pure methamatics lah. When did I confuse people. Just because you don't feel this is a god project, you cannot condemn on comments of others. Like what GKS said to him 25% over 3 years is not a good return, it is a fact as it is his expectation vs mine. This forum is for sharing. I hv lost big time in other investment, maybe I am no good thus 25% if I can get for 3 years, I am satisfied. Thank you.
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Fren, Huge down payment nearly Rm300k. Every month have to serve high progressive interest.
Before handover to new buyer have to suffer paying loan for nothing. Please don't forget monoland
project is small built up. Even price go up to Rm1600psf for Skysuites. End up profit is not so tempting too.

From huge down payment like Skysuites nearly Rm300k for low ceiling and no carpark. Not worst it at all.
I rather buy landed property for better capital appreciation.

Buy 1mil property for paying high interest and high installment only get Rm100k.

Fren, Better buy any studio or 1 bedroom condo to invest. Price range from 250k-320k property.
Easily get Rm100k profit. Low risk, Low down payment, low progressive interest and low installment.

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If you already fall under LTV 70%, sooner or later you need to pay the 30%.

Monoland always gives roti kosong one. They do not inflate the price, no dibs, nothing. So, take it or leave it.
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Fren, Huge down payment nearly Rm300k. Every month have to serve high progressive interest.
Before handover to new buyer have to suffer paying loan for nothing. Please don't forget monoland
project is small built up. Even price go up to Rm1600psf for Skysuites. End up profit is not so tempting too.

From huge down payment like Skysuites nearly Rm300k for low ceiling and no carpark. Not worst it at all.
I rather buy landed property for better capital appreciation.

Buy 1mil property for paying high interest and high installment only get Rm100k.

Fren, Better buy any studio or 1 bedroom condo to invest. Price range from 250k-320k property.
Easily get Rm100k profit. Low risk, Low down payment, low progressive interest and low installment.

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Studio 250k-300k and can profit RM100k, rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif so good one! I don't know where to find. If u know, pls let me know...pls pls. Don't talk talk only, pls share exactly which projects give such high return. Tq Tq Tq
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QUOTE(bigmamma @ Sep 8 2016, 06:56 AM)
Studio 250k-300k and can profit RM100k,  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif so good one! I don't know where to find. If u know, pls let me know...pls pls. Don't talk talk only, pls share exactly which projects give such high return. Tq Tq Tq
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earn money not enough also kena rclxm9.gif boss ..ignore sour grapes ya
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 7 2016, 08:32 PM)
If you already fall under LTV 70%, sooner or later you need to pay the 30%.

Monoland always gives roti kosong one. They do not inflate the price, no dibs, nothing. So, take it or leave it.
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Not exactly roti kosong.....usually comes it kitchen cabinet some appliances and airconds. This one also comes w plaster ceiling, electronic lock and etc....

Bigmamma already bought....no point talking otherwise. If you r monoland fansi.....you will always suppor de....no different from ytl tan&tan and simedarby or the new thrend EW.
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QUOTE(bigmamma @ Sep 8 2016, 06:56 AM)
Studio 250k-300k and can profit RM100k,  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif so good one! I don't know where to find. If u know, pls let me know...pls pls. Don't talk talk only, pls share exactly which projects give such high return. Tq Tq Tq
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250k profit for studio, perhaps that was during the good old days. During the good days, Monoland projects also can invest 1 unit, and get 100% profit. Ask TS and Vipod buyers.

Time is essential in investment
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250k profit for studio,  perhaps that was during the good old days. During the good days,  Monoland projects also can invest 1 unit,  and get 100% profit. Ask TS and Vipod buyers.

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I believe current SkySuites buyers are hoping for the magic to happen again.....or people that missed out earlier monoland kangtau.

honestly the 1100psf is really tempting, no matter from what angle you look at....even so further away projects already selling 1300-1400psf......(dang wangi, M101)

Sentral Suites, brickfield is selling 1100psf

Tropicana Garden block D is also selling 1100psf
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I do not think the "magic" of double upon VP will happen again. That's purely insanity of the market where developers misread the market. They are selling property for profit, not for charity.

The properties that you quote above.. whether will make money or not upon VP already a question mark.
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I believe current SkySuites buyers are hoping for the magic to happen again.....or people that missed out earlier monoland kangtau.

honestly the 1100psf is really tempting, no matter from what angle you look at....even so further away projects already selling 1300-1400psf......(dang wangi, M101)

Sentral Suites, brickfield is selling 1100psf

Tropicana Garden block D is also selling 1100psf
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sounds like u bought or are in the queue boss
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I do not think the "magic" of double upon VP will happen again. That's purely insanity of the market where developers misread the market. They are selling property for profit, not for charity.

The properties that you quote above.. whether will make money or not upon VP already a question mark.
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Fully agreed. Make huge profit without taking huge risk in the past is over. With interest rate trending down south worldwide (Europe's bond yield is negative), to make a decent 7-8% a year is considered good investment especially for good asset class. In my view, properties at good location in central KL is still a good assets to invest especially at a reasonable price. Well, that is just my view on choice of assets to invest. Monoland projects investment experience is to me is still the better one. So far all making good money. I think Sky Suites is no difference though margin is likely to me much lower but still meet MY EXPECTATIONS which may not be as high as others. I am not a fan of Monoland. I am a fan of developers who sell properties that I think we make money. Again kepong my fingers crossed. Nothing's ng is guaranteed!!
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sounds like u bought or are in the queue boss
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If you invest RM400K for 3 years RM100K return, the ROI is definitely not good. You probably better off will stock investment.
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Invest RM 400k for 3 years and get RM 100k as return, I think it might be not a lot for some but for me, it's consider good and not bad. The most important thing for me is how liquid is the property can be sell upon VP or completed later? If easily can flip for RM 100k profit within 3 years, thats decent enough.

If put in RM 400k and probably got RM 300-400k return on paper, however if only got market value but without buyer and zero viewing, that investment also become useless and strictly non liquid asset. There are also cost going to be incurred upon holding every month.
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Invest RM 400k for 3 years and get RM 100k as return, I think it might be not a lot for some but for me, it's consider good and not bad. The most important thing for me is how liquid is the property can be sell upon VP or completed later? If easily can flip for RM 100k profit within 3 years, thats decent enough.

If put in RM 400k and probably got RM 300-400k return on paper, however if only got market value but without buyer and zero viewing, that investment also become useless and strictly non liquid asset. There are also cost going to be incurred upon holding every month.
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me chicken feed nia.....mana ada kuali to queue with all the taikos taiches.....
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why need kuali. go office put name on paper and wave cheque book in the staff face only nia
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300k downpaymenr...within next few months...

My entire retirement fund leh...

Only kuali taikos and taiche can afford lah
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300k downpaymenr...within next few months...

My entire retirement fund leh...

Only kuali taikos and taiche can afford lah
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Developer said their 2nd phase will be RM1500 psf onwards...
If buyer loan fall to 70%, rental should be able to cover installment wat. Don't think now is still flipper market lor, should be hold it, rent out and wait for price up circle come again isn't ?

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Developer said their 2nd phase will be RM1500 psf onwards...
If buyer loan fall to 70%, rental should be able to cover installment wat. Don't think now is still flipper market lor, should be hold it, rent out and wait for price up circle come again isn't ?
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When thry sell the hotel suites small units later..all buyers ll bamg head.

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When thry sell the hotel suites small units later..all buyers ll bamg head.
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You mentioned the shifting of the “centre of gravity” for KL to Bukit Bintang. Where was the centre before? What does this shift mean for individual investors?

*Ho Chin Soon Research chairman Ho Chin Soon*
A long, long time ago, the centre of gravity for KL’s Golden Triangle was where the old St Mary’s Girl’s School was. That location was surrounded by Jalan Sultan Ismail, Jalan Raja Chulan and Jalan P Ramlee. However, after the Petronas Twin Towers were completed, it was then obvious that the centre of gravity of the Golden Triangle moved and resided there.

With the Merdeka PNB118 tower, Bukit Bintang City Centre, Tun Razak Exchange, IKEA Cheras and Bandar Malaysia situated at the south of the Golden Triangle, it is only a matter of time before the centre of gravity for the Golden Triangle will move South. And a southward movement would mean the Bukit Bintang location/vicinity.

As such, real estate values would see faster capital appreciation around the Bukit Bintang location/vicinity.


Where was the centre of gravity in the KL city centre before the BBCC development? And what does this shift mean for individual investors?

In my view, the KLCC precinct has always been the centre of gravity. The Bukit Bintang precinct (in which BBCC is located) is fast creating its own gravitational pull arising from major development projects taking place here. The Merdeka PNB118 tower is touted to be the next tallest building in KL and the mega Tun Razak Exchange are iconic projects that will attract commercial activities as well as city dwellers to the Bukit Bintang/Pudu belt. For individual investors, the Bukit Bintang area presents a viable option as launch prices for initial phases of new projects here are very attractive given the potential in the uplifting of values when the area matures and the ongoing iconic projects are completed in a few years’ time.

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QUOTE(gks @ Sep 8 2016, 05:15 PM)
It is question of what vehicle you plan to use. If you want liquidity, property is never a good vehicle and for such investment (RM400K) vs return (RM100K), IMO stock investment or even Amanah Saham will do much better job with the liquidity intact.
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Maybe, but btw property and stock, I feel property is less risk but longer game. I didnt do well on my stock investment, but not bought too many either. Some of my friends bought a lot but never see they earned big money.

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QUOTE(DavidKool @ Sep 9 2016, 10:23 AM)
Maybe, but btw property and stock, I feel property is less risk but longer game. I didnt do well on my stock investment, but not bought too many either. Some of my friends bought a lot but never see they earned big money.
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If you put rm400k in amanah saham, with 6% dividend you will get the 25% return in 4years.
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If you put rm400k in amanah saham, with 6% dividend you will get the 25% return in 4years.
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It's a decent choice anyway, better than FD. Stock is for aggressive player, I am not, LOL

I don't trust FD but just place a bit for immediate or emergency plan. If got RM 400k I wont put all into Amanah Saham, bcz the sum locked out all my capital purposes. I used to have props sold for more than 50-100% return in 3-5 years, although I believe it is not easy now, it still good in long term.
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QUOTE(gks @ Sep 8 2016, 05:15 PM)
It is question of what vehicle you plan to use. If you want liquidity, property is never a good vehicle and for such investment (RM400K) vs return (RM100K), IMO stock investment or even Amanah Saham will do much better job with the liquidity intact.
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I believe the rm100k profit is the worst case scenario, it makes no sense to invest in 1mil property targeting at 100K ROI.

The investors of Sky Suites are expecting when the property vped in the year 2020, the property price would not stay at RM1050psf + 10%. The hardcore supporters still buying in bulk.
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one agency already predicted upon vp, price will lingering around 1700psf.....

remember one sifu also predicted that Klcc properties psf in general will be hitting 5000psf????

mana tau....few years later, the reverse is true.
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1500 better opt for subsale.
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Voltex now asking average RM1500 psf. If their 2nd phase going to sell RM1500 psf, then we got RM1100 psf which is good bet right.
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Voltex now asking average RM1500 psf. If their 2nd phase going to sell RM1500 psf, then we got RM1100 psf which is good bet right.
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asking and actual transacted dua cerita.....

you sure now owners asking 1500psf? couple of months ago you can get high floors from developer around 1200psf nia.

skysuites got 4 blocks (incl so called hotel)...definitely there is room for developers cost push inflationary factor, if our property market didn't go south further......

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asking and actual transacted dua cerita.....

you sure now owners asking 1500psf? couple of months ago you can get high floors from developer around 1200psf nia.

skysuites got 4 blocks (incl so called hotel)...definitely there is room for developers cost push inflationary factor, if our property market didn't go south further......
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Buy the hotel suites later la...they ll release and make it residential..hotel tipu saja to reduce the density cncern from buyers only. After 7788...they ll open the block as resid n likely mostly small units. speculation here only. But based on vortex story...same la. Last time high floor is for hotel suites...ended up all open for sale

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asking and actual transacted dua cerita.....

you sure now owners asking 1500psf? couple of months ago you can get high floors from developer around 1200psf nia.

skysuites got 4 blocks (incl so called hotel)...definitely there is room for developers cost push inflationary factor, if our property market didn't go south further......
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I tot in this group bigmama tycoon sold vortex at 19th floor RM1480psf? My agent propose to me vortex said there is an owner own many units and his units all high floor units, asking RM1500 psf, and rental asking RM4k...
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QUOTE(SYYMY @ Sep 9 2016, 10:22 PM)
I tot in this group bigmama tycoon sold vortex at 19th floor RM1480psf? My agent propose to me vortex said there is an owner own many units and his units all high floor units, asking RM1500 psf, and rental asking RM4k...
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My info on vortex is very fragmental....

Better do your own diligent research.

Alll i know now is tenants are hard to find for vortex...and they are throwing rediculous price to owners to rent...
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 9 2016, 10:38 PM)
My info on vortex is very fragmental....

Better do your own diligent research.

Alll i know now is tenants are hard to find for vortex...and they are throwing rediculous price to owners to rent...
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The current market the general consensus is hard to find tenant with reasonable good yield especially newly vp.

It is not an issue that isolated with Vortex.
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The current market the general consensus is hard to find tenant with reasonable good yield  especially newly vp.

It is not an issue that isolated with Vortex.
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Wouldnt its true that tenants usually prefer newer properties?

But if compared to lets say summer suites or vipod or titiwangsa sentral.....arent those latters easier to secure tenants despite current market?
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QUOTE(gks @ Sep 9 2016, 11:04 PM)
The current market the general consensus is hard to find tenant with reasonable good yield  especially newly vp.

It is not an issue that isolated with Vortex.
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There are still enquiries for rental in Vortex even though I hv already sold but asking rental is low, partial furnished RM2400-2600 and full furnished around RM3200-3500. Vipod is also suffering the same fate. My Vipod full furnished only rented for RM3100 after 3 months vacant. Last tenant paid RM3600. With lesser expats particularly in O&G sector, I think market will remain as tenant's market for a while more. Interestingly places like Titiwangsa Sentral is still very hot and fetching good rental. Basic partial furnished with lights, fans and heater can easily fetch more than RM2000 a month. Mine rented to local Chinese working adults. Good paymaster. Maybe I am lucky...
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QUOTE(bigmamma @ Sep 10 2016, 09:31 AM)
There are still enquiries for rental in Vortex even though I hv already sold but asking rental is low, partial furnished RM2400-2600 and full furnished around RM3200-3500. Vipod is also suffering the same fate. My Vipod full furnished only rented for RM3100 after 3 months vacant. Last tenant paid RM3600. With lesser expats particularly in O&G sector, I think market will remain as tenant's market for a while more. Interestingly places like Titiwangsa Sentral is still very hot and fetching good rental. Basic partial furnished with lights, fans and heater can easily fetch more than RM2000 a month. Mine rented to local Chinese working adults. Good paymaster. Maybe I am lucky...
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bigmamma boss is really a die hard monoland fansi who pocketed handsome returns over the years......

congrats!
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 10 2016, 08:44 AM)
Wouldnt its true that tenants usually prefer newer properties?

But if compared to lets say summer suites or vipod or titiwangsa sentral.....arent those latters easier to secure tenants despite current market?
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BEANCOUNTER BOSS,

Generally yes, the tenants prefer "new toilets".....

somehow rather, say the single development has a total 500 units, it will definitely take a little while to

create awareness of the said new supply by property agents to tenants and only gradually adsorbed into

market later on.......

Therefore, those summer suites/vipod/titiwangsa sentral have been in market for some times, most of the

units have been occupied now and will take faster speed to get re-tenanted in the event of vacating........

At times, patience really pays?!

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QUOTE(gks @ Sep 9 2016, 11:04 PM)
The current market the general consensus is hard to find tenant with reasonable good yield  especially newly vp.

It is not an issue that isolated with Vortex.
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couldn't agree more.....

not even that, most of the projects bought in 2013/4/5 and VPed today are difficult to make good money!

Saw one taikor's comment on FB, this month (MAY/JUNE) alone got 6units vped in different location.

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Why dont you guys try airbnb? I think airbnb can easily fetch 4.5k a month there for 2 bedder. Mine is at summer suites airbnb.
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Why dont you guys try airbnb? I think airbnb can easily fetch 4.5k a month there for 2 bedder. Mine is at summer suites airbnb.
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your summer suite is 2bedddr?you manage to get 4.5k per month?
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Voltex now asking average RM1500 psf. If their 2nd phase going to sell RM1500 psf, then we got RM1100 psf which is good bet right.
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I'm not sure how far price will go for Skysuites after completed. Vortex no matter how unit got view.
Skysuites is windows view.
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I'm not sure how far price will go for Skysuites after completed. Vortex no matter how unit got view.
Skysuites is windows view.
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yes, can see each others from room if you not close up/cover the window smile.gif bangwall.gif
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yes, can see each others from room if you not close up/cover the window smile.gif  bangwall.gif
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Will you buy over 1 mil property in klcc with blocking view?
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Will you buy over 1 mil property in klcc with blocking view?
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Will you buy over 1 mil property in klcc with blocking view?
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I think you need to get above 40th floor or something to have unblocked views....

and monoland only releasing 40th and below now.....

rest assure that unblocked view will come with premium.

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Will you buy over 1 mil property in klcc with blocking view?
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Where to get unblocked 3 bedrooms in KLCC with RM1m?
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I'm not sure how far price will go for Skysuites after completed. Vortex no matter how unit got view.
Skysuites is windows view.
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If view is important, Vortex is definitely better option. Already completed and ready for rental. thumbup.gif
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Where to get unblocked 3 bedrooms in KLCC with RM1m?
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My meaning is for sub sale market. Will buyer pay over 1mil for window view?
Scary is when you look up. Cant even see the sky.
Vortex is different, as least got other high rise building view.
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QUOTE(KLCCKLCC @ Sep 13 2016, 02:41 PM)
My meaning is for sub sale market. Will buyer pay over 1mil for window view?
Scary is when you look up. Cant even see the sky.
Vortex is different, as least got other high rise building view.
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That is where I am coming from.
If subsale buyers want to buy 3bedrooms in KLCC with budget RM1m, whether with or without window, do they have other choice?

Then again.. if you look closely..... many units are not facing idaman anyway.

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That is where I am coming from.
If subsale buyers want to buy 3bedrooms in KLCC with budget RM1m, whether with or without window, do they have other choice?

Then again.. if you look closely..... many units are not facing idaman anyway.
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Yup, Soho suites & Vortex.
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Where to get unblocked 3 bedrooms in KLCC with RM1m?
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For investors that done their homework correctly, less than 30% of the units are blocked with neighbours at your face.
Those who comment here... quite obvious didn't do their own due diligence or never been to the site and sales gallery.

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At this height, the view is very good. Not just the height, but do pay attention at the tower orientation.
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At this height, the view is very good. Not just the height, but do pay attention at the tower orientation.
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Phase 1 face idaman or hotel tower.

Phase 2 clear view
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QUOTE(gks @ Sep 13 2016, 05:55 PM)
For investors that done their homework correctly, less than 30% of the units are blocked with neighbours at your face.
Those who comment here... quite obvious didn't do their  own due diligence or never been to the site and sales gallery.
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But with monoland..u cant pick your feng shui unit...
The developer gave u what u need to buy....

I thought the 3 sides of the land are franked by buildings....and right in front of the 3blocks..there is one more block (not blocking the entire 3 blocks but some units).

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 13 2016, 06:11 PM)
But with monoland..u cant pick your feng shui unit...
The developer gave u what u need to buy....

I thought the 3 sides of the land are franked by buildings....and right in front of the 3blocks..there is one more block (not blocking the entire 3 blocks but some units).
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Even those allocated the unit with facing directly to Idaman, they are happily accept it because the unit is cheapest entry cost. There are no way in KLCC you can buy 3 bedrooms for less than RM1m.

Of course you can choose to walk away if the unit is not your fengshui unit.
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QUOTE(gks @ Sep 13 2016, 06:18 PM)
Even those allocated the unit with facing directly to Idaman, they are happily accept it because the unit is cheapest entry cost. There are no way in KLCC you can buy 3 bedrooms for less than RM1m.

Of course you can choose to walk away if the unit is not your fengshui unit.
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Those facing idaman units ok lah...a good 50' away.

Even landed smds yr neigbour is a mere 20' away nia...

The only diff is smds usually have 5' high barrier....but condos u see terang terang....

Also yr units will get min amount of sunlight per day...
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QUOTE(KLCCKLCC @ Sep 13 2016, 06:10 PM)
Phase 1 face idaman or hotel tower.

Phase 2 clear view
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Not 100% true, some units at the back facing KL Tower (Block A), and facing Jln Ampang/ Zouk/ Maya Hotel (Block C).
the back facing not entirely blocked by idaman as mentioned by GKS
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 14 2016, 01:22 PM)
Not 100% true, some units at the back facing KL Tower (Block A), and facing Jln Ampang/ Zouk/ Maya Hotel (Block C).
the back facing not entirely blocked by idaman as mentioned by GKS
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For those who are interested/vested already done their due diligence.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 13 2016, 06:22 PM)
Those facing idaman units ok lah...a good 50' away.

Even landed smds yr neigbour is a mere 20' away nia...

The only diff is smds usually have 5' high barrier....but condos u see terang terang....

Also yr units will get min amount of sunlight per day...
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When you are in prime KLCC location, open view is a luxury. Even a high floor will not guarantee you unobstructed view forever as some structural will always come up in empty land. or old buildings will be demolished will make way for newer and taller buildings.

Those who put priority on view should shop carefully to ensure all angle already covered. KLCCKLCC quoted SOHO... Does he aware the present HongLeong bank will make way for future development upon relocation to DC? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(gks @ Sep 14 2016, 01:42 PM)
When you are in prime KLCC location, open view is a luxury. Even a high floor will not guarantee you unobstructed view forever as some structural will always come up in empty land. or old buildings will be demolished will make way for newer and taller buildings.

Those who put priority on view should shop carefully to ensure all angle already covered. KLCCKLCC quoted SOHO... Does he aware the present HongLeong bank will make way for future development upon relocation to DC?  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(gks @ Sep 14 2016, 01:42 PM)
When you are in prime KLCC location, open view is a luxury. Even a high floor will not guarantee you unobstructed view forever as some structural will always come up in empty land. or old buildings will be demolished will make way for newer and taller buildings.

Those who put priority on view should shop carefully to ensure all angle already covered. KLCCKLCC quoted SOHO... Does he aware the present HongLeong bank will make way for future development upon relocation to DC?  whistling.gif
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Sorry Gks, I'm Vipod owner. didnt notice it.
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QUOTE(KLCCKLCC @ Sep 13 2016, 11:33 AM)
I'm not sure how far price will go for Skysuites after completed. Vortex no matter how unit got view.
Skysuites is windows view.
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Actually when I take I was thinking location is next to KLCC, at RM800k can get freehold 2 bedder...shouldn't be go wrong gua...
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Even those allocated the unit with facing directly to Idaman, they are happily accept it because the unit is cheapest entry cost. There are no way in KLCC you can buy 3 bedrooms for less than RM1m.

Of course you can choose to walk away if the unit is not your fengshui unit.
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looks like gks boss also second with the lowest entry cost.

but just look out of the best especially those facing outside/idaman.

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for those whom are into hedging strategy, there are some 3-bedders units @ 1.2k sqf can close at 850k, circa 710/sqf.. these are not subsale, it's completed 1st hand developers' holding units and quite matured, with almost fully furnished, standard carpark & > 10ft ceiling height.. tongue.gif

i mean, i don't follow klcc much nowadays, in fact, never been vested... but random dogging still reveals that there are worthy buys around klcc.. discount the 4-5 years construction interest costs, well below 700/sqf with immediate PRC company taking up the tenancy..

nvt, being a typical monoland a.k.a. gca product and no-frills pricing with almost zero marketing cost, no carparks.. congrats for those who managed to get a unit but as in most investments, know your gameplan..
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QUOTE(emyght2016 @ Sep 15 2016, 11:00 AM)
for those whom are into hedging strategy, there are some 3-bedders units @ 1.2k sqf can close at 850k, circa 710/sqf.. these are not subsale, it's completed 1st hand developers' holding units and quite matured, with almost fully furnished, standard carpark & > 10ft ceiling height.. tongue.gif

i mean, i don't follow klcc much nowadays, in fact, never been vested... but random dogging still reveals that there are worthy buys around klcc.. discount the 4-5 years construction interest costs, well below 700/sqf with immediate PRC company taking up the tenancy..

nvt, being a typical monoland a.k.a. gca product and no-frills pricing with almost zero marketing cost, no carparks.. congrats for those who managed to get a unit but as in most investments, know your gameplan..
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Bro, where, can PM ? if around KLCC..
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Bro, where, can PM ? if around KLCC..
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He did not mention its a klcc property.

Even if its a klcc property, i doubt its under tier 1/2 location of KLCC........

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QUOTE(emyght2016 @ Sep 15 2016, 11:00 AM)
for those whom are into hedging strategy, there are some 3-bedders units @ 1.2k sqf can close at 850k, circa 710/sqf.. these are not subsale, it's completed 1st hand developers' holding units and quite matured, with almost fully furnished, standard carpark & > 10ft ceiling height.. tongue.gif

i mean, i don't follow klcc much nowadays, in fact, never been vested... but random dogging still reveals that there are worthy buys around klcc.. discount the 4-5 years construction interest costs, well below 700/sqf with immediate PRC company taking up the tenancy..

nvt, being a typical monoland a.k.a. gca product and no-frills pricing with almost zero marketing cost, no carparks.. congrats for those who managed to get a unit but as in most investments, know your gameplan..
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R u refer to regalia? I believe the leftovers are 2 bedrooms configuration.
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R u refer to regalia? I believe the leftovers are 2 bedrooms configuration.
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I am interested to know also. But if really regalia then a bit potong steam. Thats nearer to chow kit than klcc.
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R u refer to regalia? I believe the leftovers are 2 bedrooms configuration.
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to me, regalia not considered klcc..

subject is along the stretch of jalan ampang around 1.5x, maybe 2x the distance from skysuites to ptt but still very walkable, certainly not regalia..
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QUOTE(keneeth111 @ Sep 15 2016, 11:50 PM)
He did not mention its a klcc property.

Even if its a klcc property, i doubt its under tier 1/2 location of KLCC........

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by my own definition, it is tier 1 klcc property.. anw, this is a time-bound offer, peeps will know that i will share if i can..

the point of discussion is, arbitrage play.. these are not coming into the market en mass like skysuites, but oth, offers like this is not limited to just 1 miserable unit, there are few to go around to lend credibility to such claims..

and it is not only heavily discounted vs new 'below-market" projects, in the price itself, it also have generous buffer against existing units within the same development.. it also provides immediate income-generation capability to cushion the funding cost.. simply put, it is cheaper than 1st buyers.. just take it as he says, she says, with a big pinch of salt coz u will also not find any trail of evidence in the SPA proper..

actually i didn't realise this was such a great deal till i stumbled upon gks boss' comment abt 3-rooms for below 1mil in klcc..
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QUOTE(emyght2016 @ Sep 16 2016, 01:54 AM)
to me, regalia not considered klcc..

subject is along the stretch of jalan ampang around 1.5x, maybe 2x the distance from skysuites to ptt but still very walkable, certainly not regalia..
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I am interested to explore more on this. If you and your associates not keen, would you mind pm me the contact?
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QUOTE(emyght2016 @ Sep 15 2016, 11:00 AM)
for those whom are into hedging strategy, there are some 3-bedders units @ 1.2k sqf can close at 850k, circa 710/sqf.. these are not subsale, it's completed 1st hand developers' holding units and quite matured, with almost fully furnished, standard carpark & > 10ft ceiling height.. tongue.gif

i mean, i don't follow klcc much nowadays, in fact, never been vested... but random dogging still reveals that there are worthy buys around klcc.. discount the 4-5 years construction interest costs, well below 700/sqf with immediate PRC company taking up the tenancy..

nvt, being a typical monoland a.k.a. gca product and no-frills pricing with almost zero marketing cost, no carparks.. congrats for those who managed to get a unit but as in most investments, know your gameplan..
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Emyght boss pls doo share with siudai when u r allowed to do so.

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Emyght boss pls doo share with siudai when u r allowed to do so.

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i cannot get what emyght boss meant....
he meant he able to locate KLCC unit where 3 bedders, >10"height ceiling, <$1mil, free car park, fully furnish.....
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I have difficulty to understand Emyght boss's elegant Queen's language.
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I have difficulty to understand Emyght boss's elegant Queen's language.
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QUOTE(emyght2016 @ Sep 16 2016, 02:15 AM)
by my own definition, it is tier 1 klcc property.. anw, this is a time-bound offer, peeps will know that i will share if i can..

the point of discussion is, arbitrage play.. these are not coming into the market en mass like skysuites, but oth, offers like this is not limited to just 1 miserable unit, there are few to go around to lend credibility to such claims..

and it is not only heavily discounted vs new 'below-market" projects, in the price itself, it also have generous buffer against existing units within the same development.. it also provides immediate income-generation capability to cushion the funding cost.. simply put, it is cheaper than 1st buyers.. just take it as he says, she says, with a big pinch of salt coz u will also not find any trail of evidence in the SPA proper..

actually i didn't realise this was such a great deal till i stumbled upon gks boss' comment abt 3-rooms for below 1mil in klcc..
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how many units you, your frens, immediate family, relatives, etc, already bought this kang tao?
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how many units you, your frens, immediate family, relatives, etc, already bought this kang tao?
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Being in the klcc scene since 2007. I think for a 3 bedder to cost 1mil and still can purchase either from developer or subsale, its abit far fetched.....there arent many good deals these days without being noticed....
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how many units you, your frens, immediate family, relatives, etc, already bought this kang tao?
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Kangtao wont be in forum....maybe it also imply that we are amatuer only. We wont get the answer here one...We just accept it lo. This named proj is like ppl tell u there is treasure in china relates to dynasty qin...give u some hints but u ll never find it...macam play play. But if thr proj is revealed then great..i ll give him 100 likes.

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I give 5 likes as deposit....
Wait til he unveals the project then will give him 95likes...
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Sep 16 2016, 02:25 PM)
Kangtao wont be in forum....maybe it also imply that we are amatuer only. We wont get the answer here one...We just accept it lo. This named proj is like ppl tell u there is treasure in china relates to dynasty qin...give u some hints but u ll never find it...macam play play. But if thr proj is revealed then great..i ll give him 100 likes.
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QUOTE(emyght2016 @ Sep 15 2016, 11:00 AM)
for those whom are into hedging strategy, there are some 3-bedders units @ 1.2k sqf can close at 850k, circa 710/sqf.. these are not subsale, it's completed 1st hand developers' holding units and quite matured, with almost fully furnished, standard carpark & > 10ft ceiling height.. tongue.gif

i mean, i don't follow klcc much nowadays, in fact, never been vested... but random dogging still reveals that there are worthy buys around klcc.. discount the 4-5 years construction interest costs, well below 700/sqf with immediate PRC company taking up the tenancy..

nvt, being a typical monoland a.k.a. gca product and no-frills pricing with almost zero marketing cost, no carparks.. congrats for those who managed to get a unit but as in most investments, know your gameplan..
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QUOTE(emyght2016 @ Sep 16 2016, 02:15 AM)
by my own definition, it is tier 1 klcc property.. anw, this is a time-bound offer, peeps will know that i will share if i can..

the point of discussion is, arbitrage play.. these are not coming into the market en mass like skysuites, but oth, offers like this is not limited to just 1 miserable unit, there are few to go around to lend credibility to such claims..

and it is not only heavily discounted vs new 'below-market" projects, in the price itself, it also have generous buffer against existing units within the same development.. it also provides immediate income-generation capability to cushion the funding cost.. simply put, it is cheaper than 1st buyers.. just take it as he says, she says, with a big pinch of salt coz u will also not find any trail of evidence in the SPA proper..

actually i didn't realise this was such a great deal till i stumbled upon gks boss' comment abt 3-rooms for below 1mil in klcc..
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Even there are some 3-bedders units @ 1.2k sqf can close at 850k, circa 710/sqf, tier 1 KLCC property with almost fully furnished, standard carpark & > 10ft ceiling height, margin of safety, immediate income generation capability..

What more important now is how much rental can they command?! especially in today's slowdown economy and serious oversupply of large units at KLCC.

i doubt the rental yield would be decent..........unless they're dual keys units like Sky Suites...........

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oops, sorry ah bosses sekalian.. i forgot tim to speak piger's lingo, lost touch a bit, not write like prop review hor.. hehe

but hor, those whom pm me memang lagi chim, asking whether this is a GRQ scheme..? i think so lah, if u can flip american-burger for a day to earn 200k profit..

anw, from the last few posts and the pm's itself, i am guessing lah..

1. many pigers here still got moolah to whack, mortgage aside..
2. serial investors are still digging below market props in klcc, got research project summore..
3. smallest is not always better, price-point is less sensitive now..

trying to stick close to the skysuites topic.. oops.gif
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Sep 16 2016, 01:31 PM)
Boss afaik emy boss can recommend a prop within klcc area. If u ask me i dun und 100% but knowing emy for long more or less i try my best to guess a bit. laugh.gif
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gigss boss a.k.a. janitor king, no offense to the rest, but i honestly think that u can sniff out and get to this prop the fastest with your balak cable and water-pipe coz the "special-term" will hand u the advantage..

as to whether this is a good buy, i think gks boss' statement carries a lot of weight coz of his knowledge.. latest i probed is can get 2 carparks wor, but didn't ask whether side-by-side, shud be lah in klcc props.. i think the seasoned taikos already know by now, pls dun shoot siudai for b/s in this in skysuites thread ok and as a forumer said it, potong stim..
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QUOTE(keneeth111 @ Sep 16 2016, 10:26 PM)
Even there are some 3-bedders units @ 1.2k sqf can close at 850k, circa 710/sqf, tier 1 KLCC property with almost fully furnished, standard carpark & > 10ft ceiling height, margin of safety, immediate income generation capability..

What more important now is how much rental can they command?! especially in today's slowdown economy and serious oversupply of large units at KLCC.

i doubt the rental yield would be decent..........unless they're dual keys units like Sky Suites...........

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boss, not only yield but also hv to study the liquidity for such mid-size, this is not large size..

i may be wrong, but the interpretation of liquidity is weighing less on price-point alone now, as compared to before..

at least it looks more balanced now with due consideration on the overall value factor, room type/configuration etc. and of course always the supply volume..

u are right thou, coz i am not that familiar with klcc props, but hor, as to yield, my partner's, fren's, ex-staff's is renting f/f 2-bedder klcc for 4k.. so perhaps 6%, if really can get tenant lah.. any indication of the market..?

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QUOTE(emyght2016 @ Sep 16 2016, 11:12 PM)
oops, sorry ah bosses sekalian.. i forgot tim to speak piger's lingo, lost touch a bit, not write like prop review hor.. hehe

but hor, those whom pm me memang lagi chim, asking whether this is a GRQ scheme..? i think so lah, if u can flip american-burger for a day to earn 200k profit..

anw, from the last few posts and the pm's itself, i am guessing lah..

1. many pigers here still got moolah to whack, mortgage aside..
2. serial investors are still digging below market props in klcc, got research project summore..
3. smallest is not always better, price-point is less sensitive now..

trying to stick close to the skysuites topic.. oops.gif
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your summer suite is 2bedddr?you manage to get 4.5k per month?
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It also depends on the age (excuse me if this has been posted earlier). I know 2 condos (think 200m apart) in KLCC area, one going for 1600psf and the other 700psf. Needless to say, the 700psf is old while the 1600psf is fairly new.
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QUOTE(gks @ Sep 5 2016, 11:31 AM)
Actually a lot of condo with 9ft+ ceiling height.
8.5ft is definitely on low side however bear in mind, Vortex is designed with unit comes with plaster ceiling and fully air conditioned unless you personally want to install the ceiling fan.

For more generous developers (some are their signature development) they will give 10 or 11ft (without plaster ceiling which will easily take 6" away). I believe this is more exception than normal. Some development that utilising low cost structural design has 1ft depth beam across living and dining. if you want to cover this, the ceiling will be even lower.
Now, I am not sure this will be translated into extra 20% cost or not.
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ooo... so Sky Suites 8.5ft actually measures from plaster ceiling to floor? Then quite OK, I supposed. Those who wants ceiling fan would have to re-do a portion of the plaster ceiling...
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It also depends on the age (excuse me if this has been posted earlier). I know 2 condos (think 200m apart) in KLCC area, one going for 1600psf and the other 700psf. Needless to say, the 700psf is old while the 1600psf is fairly new.
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Yes condo like mayang court which is 30years are rm700psf where 250m closer to klcc, on extreme side of pricing four seasons is priced at rm3000psf.


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Yes condo like mayang court which is 30years are rm700psf where 250m closer to klcc, on extreme side of pricing four seasons is priced at rm3000psf.
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Depend on size also. Big sized units like dua residency also around 700-800psf it i m not mistaken.
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Depend on size also. Big sized units like dua residency also around 700-800psf it i m not mistaken.
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Dua is more at Tun Razak side. Not considered as KLCC already. Otherwise people will claim capsquare, msuites, regalia etc also part of KLCC.
Park seven is > RM1.2k psf
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I guess it depends whether u consider troika and desakudalari as klcc prop. As it just slightly further away than these two.
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QUOTE(emyght2016 @ Sep 15 2016, 11:00 AM)
for those whom are into hedging strategy, there are some 3-bedders units @ 1.2k sqf can close at 850k, circa 710/sqf.. these are not subsale, it's completed 1st hand developers' holding units and quite matured, with almost fully furnished, standard carpark & > 10ft ceiling height.. tongue.gif

i mean, i don't follow klcc much nowadays, in fact, never been vested... but random dogging still reveals that there are worthy buys around klcc.. discount the 4-5 years construction interest costs, well below 700/sqf with immediate PRC company taking up the tenancy..

nvt, being a typical monoland a.k.a. gca product and no-frills pricing with almost zero marketing cost, no carparks.. congrats for those who managed to get a unit but as in most investments, know your gameplan..
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LOL, Looks like this project is very interesting, to the extent that able to attract so many taikors back to LYN....... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(emyght2016 @ Sep 15 2016, 11:00 AM)
for those whom are into hedging strategy, there are some 3-bedders units @ 1.2k sqf can close at 850k, circa 710/sqf.. these are not subsale, it's completed 1st hand developers' holding units and quite matured, with almost fully furnished, standard carpark & > 10ft ceiling height.. tongue.gif

i mean, i don't follow klcc much nowadays, in fact, never been vested... but random dogging still reveals that there are worthy buys around klcc.. discount the 4-5 years construction interest costs, well below 700/sqf with immediate PRC company taking up the tenancy..

nvt, being a typical monoland a.k.a. gca product and no-frills pricing with almost zero marketing cost, no carparks.. congrats for those who managed to get a unit but as in most investments, know your gameplan..
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QUOTE(vanhelsing007 @ Sep 19 2016, 02:42 PM)
ooo... so Sky Suites 8.5ft actually measures from plaster ceiling to floor? Then quite OK, I supposed. Those who wants ceiling fan would have to re-do a portion of the plaster ceiling...
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the 8.5ft is referred to Vortex

Was told Sky Suites will have higher ceiling clearance (from plaster ceiling to floor)
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units for phase 1 sold?
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Ichiban! Too bad..no money to buy.

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It will be interesting to see this Sky Suites when it is up... especially at this part of KLCC where it is quite prominent.
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Phase 1 sold out dy... Now they are preparing to launch phase 2
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post Oct 19 2016, 06:00 AM

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QUOTE(mybenz @ Oct 19 2016, 12:58 AM)
Phase 1 sold out dy... Now they are preparing to launch phase 2
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Which one is phase 1 and which one is phase 2?
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post Oct 19 2016, 10:15 AM

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Phase 1 sold out dy... Now they are preparing to launch phase 2

Wow, that was quick! Wondering what's the indicative psft for phase 2.

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post Oct 19 2016, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 19 2016, 06:00 AM)
Which one is phase 1 and which one is phase 2?
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Phase 1: 5th - 40th floor
Phase 2: 41st - 59th floor


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post Oct 19 2016, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(sangmonyet7 @ Oct 19 2016, 11:18 AM)
Phase 1: 5th - 40th floor
Phase 2: 41st - 59th floor
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I wan phase 3..hotel suites...small unit tongue.gif. I think they ll sell it just like vortex last time which high floor was meant to be hotel suites.

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post Oct 19 2016, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Oct 19 2016, 02:00 PM)
I wan phase 3..hotel suites...small unit tongue.gif. I think they ll sell it just like vortex last time which high floor was meant to be hotel suites.
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Vortex the high floor that suppose to be hotel... it's converted to residential. and selling for higher price.

If Monoland is going to sell Sky Suites hotel suites on strata basis with same psf I think many current buyers doesn't mind to top up as it is only 250units.
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post Oct 19 2016, 08:23 PM

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Only selling to existing monoland customers?
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post Oct 21 2016, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(cannible @ Oct 19 2016, 08:23 PM)
Only selling to existing monoland customers?
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No. It's open for new customers as well.
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post Oct 21 2016, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(sangmonyet7 @ Oct 21 2016, 03:47 PM)
No. It's open for new customers as well.
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As long as you can pay 20% on the spot, you can he a buyer
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post Oct 21 2016, 06:06 PM

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But can choose your sum sui unit or not even if i have 20% cash to pay upfront???
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post Oct 22 2016, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 21 2016, 07:06 PM)
But can choose your sum sui unit or not even if i have 20% cash to pay upfront???
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This time can. Skysuites 1k units.....unlike previous project.
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post Oct 22 2016, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Oct 22 2016, 08:05 PM)
This time can. Skysuites 1k units.....unlike previous project.
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1st phase still not fully sold? thought monoland project used to sell like hot cake? any price increase on the remaining unit?
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post Oct 22 2016, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(wl_n @ Oct 22 2016, 09:22 PM)
1st phase still not fully sold? thought monoland project used to sell like hot cake? any price increase on the remaining unit?
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Phase 2 higher floors ..surely more expensive.
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post Oct 22 2016, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Oct 22 2016, 09:30 PM)
Phase 2 higher floors ..surely more expensive.
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2nd phase for sure more expensive. Higher floor with unobstructed view. Can see klcc tower. So 1st phase sold out?
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post Oct 29 2016, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(wl_n @ Oct 22 2016, 10:33 PM)
2nd phase for sure more expensive. Higher floor with unobstructed view. Can see klcc tower. So 1st phase sold out?
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dont think so as phase 1 till 40th flr mostly facing back lane (see oppsite facade condo) or the pub noisy area
cant see klcc tower that why start cheaper 1050 to 1150 per sft.

also rejection rate high as need 20& downpayment with SPA sign if loan rejected (need 2x loan rejection letter) to get refund of 99% only.. (1% is the penalty fine ) means if your total selling price is 900K they take 9K (1%) !!

they smart er they know how to TRAP you since bank rejection rate higher now..
'Gve one hand take another ' tongue.gif dry.gif gud luck..lots of it gudluck

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post Oct 29 2016, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(iphonegizmo @ Oct 29 2016, 01:23 PM)
dont think so as phase 1 till 40th flr mostly facing back lane (see oppsite facade condo) or the pub noisy area
cant see klcc tower that why start cheaper 1050 to 1150 per sft.

also rejection rate high as need 20& downpayment with SPA sign if loan rejected (need 2x loan rejection letter) to get refund of 99% only.. (1% is the penalty fine ) means if your total selling price is 900K they take 9K (1%) !!

they smart er they know how to TRAP you since bank rejection rate higher now..
'Gve one hand take another ' tongue.gif  dry.gif gud luck..lots of it gudluck
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sorry i dun really understand your last para...

why Monoland smart? purposely to trap you and earn 9k????

I dunno what schedule is this project but after spa signed and you cant proceed...penalty only 1%? they have already completed the foundation....

I know penalty is 1% of selling price if signed SPA but need to abandon the sales, and the developer has not completed the foundation yet.
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post Oct 29 2016, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(iphonegizmo @ Oct 29 2016, 01:23 PM)
dont think so as phase 1 till 40th flr mostly facing back lane (see oppsite facade condo) or the pub noisy area
cant see klcc tower that why start cheaper 1050 to 1150 per sft.

also rejection rate high as need 20& downpayment with SPA sign if loan rejected (need 2x loan rejection letter) to get refund of 99% only.. (1% is the penalty fine ) means if your total selling price is 900K they take 9K (1%) !!

they smart er they know how to TRAP you since bank rejection rate higher now..
'Gve one hand take another ' tongue.gif  dry.gif gud luck..lots of it gudluck
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2nd phase is level 41 and above. higher thn existing surtounding building. so view not obstructed. have thought of buying 1 biji but monoland quality really shits and klcc over supply though price is attractive. its cheapeast klcc property so far.
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QUOTE(wl_n @ Oct 29 2016, 02:05 PM)
2nd phase is level 41 and above. higher thn existing surtounding building. so view not obstructed. have thought of buying 1 biji but monoland quality really shits and klcc over supply though price is attractive. its cheapeast klcc property so far.
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um 2nd phase is approx rm1300-1400+~ or so ..

Catch : rclxub.gif
NO car park
NO Sky PARK Facilites incl.
plus u have pay the rm0.50 main. fee

ye in terms of quailty i think they still give u dry wall thin partition wall.. !
not sound proof lo

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