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 What should he do?, helping a friend

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narf03
post Aug 4 2006, 09:41 AM

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OK, first of all, I am a honest programmer, straight to the point.
Programmers are lazy ppl, as I can see from the post, he is a very hardworking one, programming isnt suitable for him. As for you, you are even more hardworking, writing so much telling us how good is such person, why dont u make it short ?
Btw junior programmers arent well paid, <RM2k, I dont think he can survive with <50% his previous salary. No one will offer him 2x normal salary because of the story. Its his decision to leave the company before he found a new job, if he is such ... responsible person(for his family), he would not quit that company like that.
And lastly, I agree with dreamer101, find a job in his talent and do part time freelance.
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post Aug 4 2006, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Casanova @ Aug 4 2006, 10:31 AM)
He needed a good car because he travel nationwide. Imagine he have to drive up and down in a Saga.

I think Pennywise posted a topic about him in "Cinapek Company." People who are too busy working, making sure there is money to feed the family will not have time to learn to do what they want - this case, programming.
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If his job has to travel from country to country, what type of plane would suit him ? Proton is bad, but not that bad, if he feel his job need a better car, ask the company get 1 company car for him, if i feel i need another computer for my better performance in my job, do u think ill korek my wallet ?

And I do not agree on the ppl can busy until no time do what they want. Do he has time for TV ? sport ? tea with you ? relax ? or even sleep ? IF you wanna do something, and you will have time for it(even reduce your sleeping time), I will not say that I do not have time to play computer game. That is an excuse.
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post Aug 4 2006, 12:12 PM

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I am sorry for his situation, I am not trying to make him hard feeling, but life is cruel, as ppl said, "salary paid to you, 50% is for what you do, and 50% is for you to be bullied?", it is not easy to get another job with the same or even higher salary compare to his last job, I hope before he made his decision to terminate his career, he did calculate how his life will be affected(no income, still need to pay car loan, house loan, pay this and pay that). It has been 2 months since he terminated his career, he unable to get a job, plz ask him, does he regret making that decision yet? Sometime we cannot ack like what we want, especially the result might totally affect your life, your family, not just yourself.

I sympaty for him, but life is cruel, maybe I am a bit luckier than him, but maybe not, I am a programmer without even a diploma, and have to pay more than 70% of my salary to maintain my car, house, and family, if one day my boss slap me, and ask me go eat shit, do u think im gonna to sue him b4 i get a new job ?
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post Aug 5 2006, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Aug 5 2006, 01:23 PM)
I still dont understand WTF has it gotta do with the car? Buy already, use la, sell and make a loss, risk your life on a motorbike and get stuck in the rain, WTF for?
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Cause he can only get rid of the car, we cannot advice him to get rid of his family, we have to face the truth, HE LOST HIS JOB, what is his main priority ? His car, or his family ? We are advising to reduce his burden, to make his life easier. This is his story : His sampan does not look nice, so he screwed a hole in his sampan, water is comming in(he is at this stage), the sampan is about to sink, its his choice to throw his gold into the sea or go diving with them(with his family). Without the gold(pride, or his car), he reduce the speed of sinking, he has more time to look for another boat(where he might able to get back those gold).
I hope you can calm down before further writing.

This post has been edited by narf03: Aug 5 2006, 06:41 PM

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