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Advice Wanted [WTA] Proposal Ring & Wedding Bands, Please advice me!! Need Help!!

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post Mar 17 2019, 12:22 AM

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Guys,
how do you guys think about this diamond?

gia report number 7318129932

Considering of getting higher carat diamond i have somehow gave up "cut".(which is extremely important :/)
however it looks shiny for me. Haha

got this at about 2kSGD.

worth it?
i know its late but i wish to know some of the opinion.


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post Mar 17 2019, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Mar 17 2019, 10:05 AM)
Now, this is am interesting one. Have you tried the HCA tool? https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca?, the score is 1.5, and so we can guess that the pavilion and crown angle is working together, which makes sense because the crown angle is sooo steep, and the pavilion angle is sooo shallow. Crown angle and Pavilion angle always work as an inverse of each other - one steep one shallow, whichever also can. The steepness of the crown and the tall crown height will make this diamond to have excellent fire I presume, but that is assuming the light return is not bad, which I am not too sure in this case since the total diamond depth is pretty deep. But since you saw the diamond and like it, i think it meets your requirement.

The reason this diamond is getting a so-called good cut is because the numbers... But this doesn't mean it will be that bad in real life if it is not leaking light or leaking too much light and the relationship is good between the crown and Pavilion angles, which is the case here.

Now, the not-so-good part: The calculated ideal weight is actually between 0.47ct - 0.48ct. In other words, it will look like a ideally cut 0.47ct or 0.48ct. Take a look at this 0.45ct, which has a bigger face-up size than your diamond:

https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view...amond-276952094

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https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD...s&action=newTab
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So you might wonder why 0.5ct? This is because the extra carat weight is hidden in the diamond total depth. Meaning all the extra goodness of the carat is hidden from the normal viewing position, which is facing-up, but yet, you are paying something extra for what you cannot see. And why would they cut it to 0.5ct? I can only guess they did it on purpose because 0.5ct is much more tempting than a 0.45ct right, as far as the number sounds. And one of the factors to determine the price is carat weight, not the face-up diameters.

Take a look at BlueNile. This diamond looks pretty good looking overall, but it has the same specs as yours as far as the 4Cs are concerned. Check out the price... So is it overpriced? If compare to BlueNile, I would say the price you paying is pretty fair since SG has taxes. But if compare to the earlier 0.45ct, I would say it has a better overall value than your diamond. This is because the face-up size is bigger, the diamond is 3EX, the overall look is very good-looking, and yet, it is still cheaper. And since this stone is on virtual inventory, other vendors may be able to offer even cheaper price. I would guess you can get it between RM 5300 to RM 5500 for this diamond in Malaysia. This is because you are saving the 7% VAT, so you won't reach RM 6k or SGD 2k.
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The score is 1.5 out of 5? omg.
I should've asked here earlier. I never expect there is so much of consideration when buying a diamond.
It was my first time to purchase a diamond and i found all of them is basically look the same.
i was so struggling when choosing them. tsk.
so from your professional point of view, this diamond is not really worth it?

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post Mar 17 2019, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Mar 17 2019, 02:17 PM)
Erm 1.5 is actually good. Hca is a rejection tool and we aim for diamonds below 2.

From my layman point of view (not pro in anyway as I don't hold any pro title), it is not worth it but I am not talking about performance, because the proportions may work. I am talking about paper value. This is because on paper, this diamond is not even a Triple Excellent, which is what most, if not all jewellers are looking for their customers. Triple Excellent is sometimes being overused for marketing purpose, despite that, it still hold certain degree of "prestige". If you are all into performance, then your diamond may even work well against a poorly cut (as in actual 3D cutting precision, and not the Cut in the 4Cs) Triple Excellent, but without any images, I am just guessing, since I believe it caught your attention. Also, I can find a diamond at a slightly smaller carat weight that is cheaper but face-up larger than the diamond you chosen, and it is a Triple Excellent, so I would prefer that more. But since you prefer the carat more, then that's certainly fine. But always remember, carat doesn't equates to how big the diamond would look, it will only tell you how heavy it is.

BTW, Did the seller actually show you other diamonds that fall under Triple Excellent?
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Yes but in term of clarity and colour, the rest are not really good though prices are lower compared to this.
I knew that cut is important but didn’t know it affects much after reading this post. That’s why I go for carat instead of cut. Haha (my idea was my soon-to-be fiancé/any woman may prefer bigger size of diamond than cut right? )
So I was thinking as long the diamond looks shiny and clean by going for higher grade of clarity and colour then it’d good.
Hope it looks good upon fixing onto the casing.
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post Mar 17 2019, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Mar 17 2019, 05:11 PM)
Yes, I guess carat is what most people prefer anyway, and that is probably the first thing they are looking for. Your numbers are a bit weird but as I said, they might work. wink.gif since you bought it, must well enjoy it bro!
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Well. Thanks bro!
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post Mar 27 2019, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Mar 17 2019, 05:11 PM)
Yes, I guess carat is what most people prefer anyway, and that is probably the first thing they are looking for. Your numbers are a bit weird but as I said, they might work. wink.gif since you bought it, must well enjoy it bro!
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Bro how’s my ring haha

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post Mar 28 2019, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Mar 27 2019, 05:18 PM)
Looks not bad la. When pop question? Lol.
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I think next month lo. Tsk
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post Mar 28 2019, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Mar 28 2019, 04:03 PM)
Where was it done?
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Singapore taka. Not a branded shop.
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post Mar 28 2019, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Mar 28 2019, 05:30 PM)
Lol. What's with the "tsk"?  tongue.gif
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Have not planned yet. Any idea? Hahahah

 

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