Zcova can offer one colour higher at cheaper price

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As for the stone, 36 crown angle is too steep. Pairing with 41 pavilion will usually not work. At least I saw the diamond chosen by Zcova has better proportions.

For your budget, I would recommend either Tailored Jewel or Zcova for a one-stop service. And for a decently cut 0.4ct G VS1 (or maybe VS2) , it will be more or less RM 5500 to RM 6000 with 18k white gold ring.

The original ideal cut publishes by Marcel Tolkowsky has a crown angle of 34.5 an pavilion angle of 40.8. But if we are talking about GIA, we won't know for sure because they round up numbers like 34.3 and 34.7 crown to 34.5. Nonetheless, even those numbers are not bad at all. Usually I will just ask people to follow 34 to 35 crown angle and 40.6 to 40.9 pavilion angle. Those are Whiteflash ACA proportions. Of course, proportions is just one thing. We still have to see whether the cut quality is good enough or not. For example if one side of the crown is too high at 36 and the other side of the crown is too low at 32, you will still get an average of 34. Good by the numbers but not good in real life. Oh and one more.. Try to look for lower girdle percentage of 75%, and table size preferably 55% or 56%. 57% is acceptable but smaller table usually have better fire.

Higher crown angle will also have better fire. So theoretically, 35 crown will have slightly better fire than 34 crown angle. 35 crown is best to be paired with a 40.6 pavilion angle. Now, pair that with 75% lower girdle diamond that is well-cut, you should have a good diamond.

I think usually will take between 3 to 4 weeks, but if it is peak period, then expect longer.

Hi Newbie123321! I am the owner of The Gem Tribe - we specialize in full range jewellery services.  Nice to meet you and everyone on here! : )
As a GIA Gemologist who has graded thousands of diamonds to date, I highly recommend against going for SI2 diamonds.
In the U.S. where I went to get my qualification, my instructors used to call I1 and below stones - frozen spit. : ))))
SI2 is borderline frozen spit and in many cases, if you or your future fiancee is the sensitive kind, you would probably notice the nasty impurities and inclusions within the diamond. That's right! In order for a diamond to be graded SI2, there needs to be multiple large and noticeable inclusions within the stone.
So, does it make sense to settle for something like this when you have better, cleaner options?
What if I told you that by topping up a Rm1k+/- to your budget, you may get a GIA certified VS2 clarity, F color diamond with 3EX cut?
AND you have the flexibility of choosing a brand new 18kt White Gold mounting, instead of being stuck with the current design that your fiancee might not like?

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Both Gem Tribe and Zcova has GIA Graduate Gemologist with experience to give you advices that I probably could not. I am sure you will benefit from their expertise as well.

I can only give you advice on what I would personally buy. So your minimum size is 0.4ct?

Hmm personally, I would request for another options before making the final call. The diamond is not that well cut overall despite its proportions look good.

Alternatively, drop the size down or buy shy of 0.4ct?

Please provide minimum colour and clarity as well?

BTW ZCOVA has a standard promotion for 0.3ct E VS2 for 4250
https://zcova.com/blog/15/zcova-engagement-...r-your-proposal!

Tailored Jewel also had standard promotion here:
https://www.tailoredjewel.com/tjs-picks/diamond-rings/

Best is Tailored Jewel got 14k ring option to lower the price. 18k is usually the standard for the Malaysia market and uses more ring so it is more expensive, while 14k is more common overseas and it is definitely cheaper. It is a smart move by Tailored Jewel.

Personally, I am also experimenting on how to become a jeweller so I  actually sourced one stone from a supplier straight. I will be selling off the stone later on to whoever who is adventurous enough to buy from me. Well, I trust myself, but it is not so easy for ppl to trust me right, so I have to see what I can do to gain the trust. For now, I cant really get anything for you because I dont know the turnaround time yet, and I don't want to mess up with your schedule. And yes, I would also be earning some profit if I sell it to anyone.

Hmm.. Both diamonds are not hearts and arrows so I would just pick by the numbers and the overall look. For this, I would pick the 3850 package.

For below 5.5k, you can consider this:
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp (affiliate link).

Here is the price:



18k gold ring from Memory Jewellery:
https://memoryjewellery.com/category/engagement-ring/

Total: RM 3905.81 + RM 1499.00 = RM 5405.81.

Just for reference. You can see the difference in cut quality.

I would recommend you stick to your budget as you have mentioned that there are other expenses for marriage.

I am still waiting for Memory Jewellery to has their system up again.

Hmm.. Both diamonds are not hearts and arrows so I would just pick by the numbers and the overall look. For this, I would pick the 3850 package.

For below 5.5k, you can consider this:
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp (affiliate link).

Here is the price:



18k gold ring from Memory Jewellery:
https://memoryjewellery.com/category/engagement-ring/

Total: RM 3905.81 + RM 1499.00 = RM 5405.81.

Just for reference. You can see the difference in cut quality.

I would recommend you stick to your budget as you have mentioned that there are other expenses for marriage.

I am still waiting for Memory Jewellery to has their system up again.

I sent the wrong link!

Here is the correct stone: https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp

It is 0.328ct diamond not a 0.421ct!

The guy? I am guessing he is Ethon? Lol. If yes, he is the boss.

But again, although I make the call by the number, but 36 crown pair with 40.6 pavilion might work, just that it is a it borderline call. So the other diamond is a safer choice.

And for by look, there are 2 arrows that do not reflect well for the 0.4ct... Here comes the But... But this kind of videos usually can happen even for a well-cut diamond.

So you can really say I mainly reject this diamond based on numbers. I do have something I like about the 0.4ct: the arrows are bolder and not as thin as the 0.3ct, and the arrows ade more well-aligned as well.

Hearts and Arrows are a phenomenon that can be found in round brilliant diamond. It is something the cutter should achieve if it is well-cut enough. Here, take a look:





So yea, there are hearts their are arrows. But what do you think?

And what do you think of these 2:


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Which one you more willing to  buy? Given the fact that the left diamond is cheaper.

No, I am not a sifu. Just sharing my limited knowledge with you guys here.

G colour is okay if you have a high performing diamond to mask the yellowish tint. Otherwise, the lowest you wanna go is F. Personally, here are my priorities:

P1: Cut, no compromise.
P2: Carat weight, girls' best friend so it has to be.
P3: Colour, cuz it is something which you and other people can observe.
P4: Clarity, does not really matter as long as it appears eyeclean and there are no internal cracks (feather) near the edges.

Imagine this very common conversation:

Girl A: WAHHHH, your diamond super shiny and colourful!! That's P1 right there.
Girl B: Is it? Thank you.
Girl A: How many carat? There you go, P2.

Never have you heard "Wahhh, your diamond super shiny and colourful! What colour and clarity your fiancé buy for you?"