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Advice Wanted [WTA] Proposal Ring & Wedding Bands, Please advice me!! Need Help!!

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Alex Yow
post Apr 18 2017, 11:44 AM

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Any bro can give some advise below spec diamond ok or not? Thanks
Carat: 0.30ct
Color: E
Clarity: VS 2
Cut: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: Med
Depth %: 62.10%
Table %: 57.00%
Crown Angle: 36.0
Pavillion Angle: 40.6
Hearts & Arrows: Excellent
Alex Yow
post Apr 18 2017, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Apr 18 2017, 01:41 PM)
Fluorescence: Med Comment: Diamonds with fluroescence is usually cheaper. Preferred that there is no fluorescence.
Depth %: 62.10% Comment: Depth still okay, but try to limit at 62%.
Crown Angle: 36.0 Comment: Try to limit max at 35.5 degrees. Preferably somewhere between 34-35 degrees.
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If this diamond including setting 18k white gold around Rm 49xx does it expensive?
Alex Yow
post Apr 18 2017, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Apr 18 2017, 03:58 PM)
Hmm, really depends how heavy is the 18k white gold your vendor is providing. And what are the contents.

For example, 18k white gold with palladium is more expensive than 18k white gold with nickel.

Assuming you are getting 18k white gold with nickel, 3.3 - 3.6 gram (according to Memory Jewellery), a default design in their inventory will probably cost you some price around RM 750.00 (last check on 7 Feb), while for custom design, the price will vary, probably around RM 1000 - RM 1500. Best if you reach out to them and check things out.

This 0.33ct E VS2 WhiteFlash diamond [https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp (affiliate link)] is bigger than the 0.3ct offered to you, and has better proportions. M2U for Forex rate for transfer now is 4.461.  Therefore, the final price for this loose diamond is RM 3974.75. Add 6% GST will be around RM 4213.24. Add on RM 50 misc. charges for things like GST on freight, M2U TT transfer charges, final price will be RM 4263.24.

You can probably get this ring set in your default/custom design with a final price between RM 5013.24 - RM 5763.24.

Also, if you get a loose stone and ring setting from the same vendor, usually the ring setting price will be cheaper compare to what you can get elsewhere. So, if I assume the price of the ring setting that is offered to you is at RM 750, this make the stone to be around RM 41xx. In this case, then I don't think the stone is worth it, given the fact that it has a crown angle there is over-steep and a medium fluroescence.

Hope this helps.
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Bro oh mean crown angle and med fluorescence not good?
Alex Yow
post Apr 18 2017, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Apr 18 2017, 06:48 PM)
Yeap. Crown angle 36 is too steep, so this affects the cut quality and the price should be cheaper. Medium fluorescence should also lower the diamond price, although there is a high chance that fluorescence won't cost any trouble, but the price should be lower.
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Ok, btw bro i got one more option this price is cheaper compare to previous, around 46xx
Carat: 0.30ct
Color: E
Clarity: VS 2
Cut: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: Faint
Depth %: 62.60%
Table %: 57.00%
Crown Angle: 35.5
Pavillion Angle: 41
Hearts & Arrows: None

This post has been edited by Alex Yow: Apr 18 2017, 07:25 PM
Alex Yow
post Apr 18 2017, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Apr 18 2017, 09:45 PM)
What the fook???

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This is a deep cut stone.

Avoid.

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Here are a few examples which matches the above grades and proportions:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/r....6&DepthTo=62.6
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Thanks bro for the advise, I'm a newbies so not sure which to choose and the only thing I know is color, clarity and cut other than that really clueless. cry.gif
Alex Yow
post Apr 18 2017, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Apr 18 2017, 10:15 PM)
Some easy steps to follow for newbies:

Input the GIA number here to get a rough idea of the cut quality. Yes, some people may argue that this based on Enchanted Diamond's propietary set of requirements, but it is a good starting point: https://enchanteddiamonds.com/cut-score-calculator

Input HCA:
http://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca
General rule is  to reject stone that is above the score of 2. (The lower the score the better). Please be reminded that this is a diamond rejection tool, not selection tool, meaning you use it to reject poor performers.
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Oh ok, you mean this..
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Alex Yow
post Apr 18 2017, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Apr 18 2017, 11:23 PM)
Ohh I see. Newbie never mind bro, I was a newbie myself too haha.

I "what the fook" just now cuz how come hearts and arrows NONE one?? That's a good indicator that the stone is not good. You can clearly see in the link I posted. The arrows are either senget or invisible.

How cheap also AVOID!!!
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But u know more than me, so not consider newbies brows.gif

 

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