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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V6!

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chocobo7779
post May 13 2014, 05:29 PM

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For those who are unable to obtain a certain part (due to availability issues), here is a list of forumers which you can buy parts from:

1. Hikari85 ( https://forum.lowyat.net/user/Hikari85 )
2. lingloong ( https://forum.lowyat.net/user/lingloong )
3. zhen^wei ( https://forum.lowyat.net/user/10957 )
4. GBros ( https://forum.lowyat.net/user/GBros )
5. CyntrixTech (no longer active, may require you to message their Facebook page instead: https://www.facebook.com/cyntrixtech )

Just drop them a personal message and tell them which parts do you need, and if the stocks are available, proceed to payment and they will mail the item to you. icon_idea.gif

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post May 14 2014, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ May 14 2014, 07:28 PM)
Im going for your dream rig Mr.Minecrafter... Muahahaha!
Actually no, i doesnt have enough funds for that cry.gif

But u got the same spec i has in mind.
my PSU okay rite?
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PSU is top notch. tongue.gif
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post May 16 2014, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 16 2014, 04:06 PM)
I bet it gonna be another leaf blower or oven... sweat.gif
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All-in-one watercooling like the R9 295X2? brows.gif icon_idea.gif
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post May 18 2014, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(chang3rd @ May 17 2014, 05:12 PM)
Hi guys !

Since Microsoft has ended support for XP, wanted to get a new rig for my parents.
Need some suggestions.

Budget: ~RM1000
Purposed: Light surfing, occasional scanning/word processing/printing
Hardwares that will be re-use: Maybe two HDD but planning to get a new one for fresh install (SSD?)
Monitor resolution: Forgot, but got cheap LCD monitor
Games & softwares that use frequently: Google chrome, MS Word
Personal preferences: Don't need GC can right ? Need optical drive.
Location: Can go to Lowyat
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post May 22 2014, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(NekoGon89 @ May 22 2014, 01:03 PM)
Bros what is a good Gaming Monitor for the Price range of RM 500- RM 600.TQ in advance.
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Dell P2314H? hmm.gif

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post May 22 2014, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Narako @ May 22 2014, 01:32 PM)
Guys could you recommend a psu from this link
budget <rm300

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2860490&hl=

the rig is

Proc - i5-4440
Mobo - Asrock B85 Killer
GPU - Zotac GTX 760 2GB
HDD - 1TB Western Digital
RAM - 1600mhz 8GB - RM245

is STRIDER ESSENTIAL SERIES ST60F-ES - 600w - RM 279
good enough?
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Seasonic M12II 520... Even though it's not on the price list... it is a very well built unit...
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post May 22 2014, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(RoyRF @ May 22 2014, 05:11 PM)
i see..good info there.. rclxms.gif  i think save a lil bit more money then go for higher spec gpus..
thanks for the enlightenment!  biggrin.gif
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post May 23 2014, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ May 23 2014, 04:11 PM)
Do you need a monitor? Why settle for i3, when you can have an i5? biggrin.gif

Though if going for Bitfenix Prodigy, it may break your budget.

Intel Core i5 4440 – RM559
Asrock B85M-G – RM279
Corsair Value Ram 8GB DDR3 1600MHz – RM244
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD - RM179
Zotac GTX 760 AMP! Edition – RM899 (Cycom)
Cooler Master K380 Casing - RM149
FSP Hexa 500W PSU - RM149
Lite-On 24x DVDRW – RM59

Total - RM2517 (prices are from Viewnet)

Optional:
Bitfenix Prodigy-M - RM319 (lingloong)
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...and severely limits expansion... not to mention the Prodigy is a huge mini-ITX case to start with. sweat.gif
Even some microATX cases are smaller than this... sweat.gif

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post May 23 2014, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(IMBeta305 @ May 23 2014, 04:16 PM)
im not sure if i choose i3 instead of i5 will it affect my gaming experience in terms of graphic, lag, etc? put more budget on graphic card

ill buy monitor seperately
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Remember, it's all about balance... no point going with powerful GPU when the CPU starts to bottleneck....
Note that modern games can utilize 4 physical cores, or even more. icon_idea.gif

BTW, the Prodigy is not a small case to begin with. icon_idea.gif
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post May 23 2014, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(IMBeta305 @ May 23 2014, 04:22 PM)
okay ill keep that in mind. on casing part. u're saying prodigy casing too big or what. i dont get ur point ><
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Too big for a mini-ITX case... tongue.gif
Also, don't worry going for ASRock boards... I have no problems with that. icon_idea.gif
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post May 23 2014, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(IMBeta305 @ May 23 2014, 04:37 PM)
thats the smallest case from bitfenix rite>? any other case u can recommend me then, preferably from them
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Yes, though I'm not a fan of Bitfenix cases... it looks like their case are poorly built, even though they look good... sad.gif
I'd recommend Silverstone cases instead, even though they don't have the best styling, but they are very well engineered.

TJ08-E user here.. brows.gif

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post Jun 2 2014, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(chiwee @ Jun 2 2014, 12:46 AM)
Hi,

[Budget]
RM 5500

[Purpose]
Video game
Listen to music - Should I get external DAC or sound card?
Movies

[Hardwares that will be re-use] -

[Monitor resolution]
Want to get monitor with 27" 2560x1600. But if it's not suitable for gaming then can go for 23"/24" 1920x1200. Prefer 16:10 ratio.

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
High graphics video games, crysis.. etc, etc..

[Personal preferences]
Want to get a PC to play high graphics video games, preferably minimum 80% close to highest settings. No low fps or lag.
System is quiet when not gaming. And not too loud when gaming, if possible.
No need ODD, as it's seldom used and I think Windows 8 can be installed through USB.
Please suggest keyboard and mouse too.
Can suggest speakers too. But it's not included in the budget, as they can be expensive.

[Location]
KL

Who assembles PC, any suggestions? How much does the service cost?
Should I buy the parts and get the PC assembled in the same shop? Or buy the parts myself first then send to a shop to assemble?

Please advise. Thanks.
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Unfortunately, 1600p displays would be only available on 30 inch displays, which is not cheap to begin with (FYI 30 inch 1600p displays cost more than half of your budget... sweat.gif )

Not to mention 1600p is incredibly hard to push even with very high end GPUs... sweat.gif

Still, I'd go with 1200p, but the price range is too close to a Korean 1440p display... sweat.gif

Anyway,

Xeon E3 1230v3-RM789
ASRock H97 Pro4-RM329
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB-RM249
WD Caviar Blue 1TB-RM189
PowerColor R9 290 PCS+-RM1650
Seasonic M12II 620W-RM359
NZXT H440 (Black with Red Color)- RM399
LiteOn DVD Writer-RM55
Samsung 840 EVO 120GB-RM320
X-Star DP2710 Matte-RM963 (Get from this link: http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/Matte-X-STAR-DP...d1e678e&_uhb=1)
Keyboard and mouse of your choice-RM60

Total: RM5362

Still has room for a mechanical keyboard.... brows.gif
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post Jun 6 2014, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Zer0 c00L @ Jun 6 2014, 10:55 AM)
Probably cause most of the pics i saw are fully loaded already, it looks a wee bit cramped up with all the parts going in, giving that impression.

Its a fair bit smaller than the phenom too judging by dimensions
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Why not the Fractal Design Node 304? GBros has 'em... brows.gif
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post Jun 15 2014, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(PoPoBear @ Jun 15 2014, 10:03 AM)
hey guys, im not sure whether this is a correct thread for me or not..

can any of u guys recommend me a good laptop for gaming and work ?

which have SSD (preferable) and minimum i5 processors with fast boot up ?

my budget is divided into

1) rm2500 and below
2) rm3500 and below
3) rm4000 and below

thanks guys!
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If you have 4K to spend... look no further to an Illegear...
http://store.illegear.com/re-series/19-ill...-re-15-evo.html

Maxwell-based GTX860M with Haswell i7...
...and no bloatware that is bundled with this laptop. icon_idea.gif

No SSD though, but you can always add your own in the form of a mSATA drive. brows.gif

2.5K would be too tight for anything good for games unless you drop the SSD. 3.5K budget is too close to a custom built laptop (like the Illegear I have mentioned)..

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post Jun 16 2014, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(sigheart @ Jun 16 2014, 05:10 AM)
Hey all,

Would appreciate some suggestions on a new and compact gaming rig. Contemplating to go small this time, probably getting the Silverstone FT03 Mini or one of those Bitfenix ITX (Prodigy/Phenom) cases.

[Budget] RM3500 - RM4000

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse

[Monitor resolution] 1920 x 1080

[Location] Subang, KL, Klang Valley

Thanks a lot in advanced.  notworthy.gif
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Don't want a Node 304? brows.gif

If you are going compact the Bitfenix Prodigy is out of the question as it is almost as large as some microATX cases...

Anyway,

i5 4460-RM589
ASRock H97M-ITX-RM349
Kingston HyperX Fury 1x8GB RAM-RM249
WD Blue 1TB-RM189
Zotac GTX760 reference-RM799 (GBros@Garage Sales)
Seasonic M12II 520W-RM279 (Idealtech@Garage Sales)
Fractal Design Node 304-RM349 (GBros@Garage Sales)
-No optical drive-
Samsung 840 EVO 120GB SSD-RM299 (lingloong@Garage Sales)

Total: RM3102
Didn't really max out your budget though. tongue.gif
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post Jul 7 2014, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(Xefron @ Jul 7 2014, 12:14 PM)
3.4Ghz Core i3 4130
4GB x 2 D3 1600Mhz
H81M-S2PV
Toughpower 650W GOLD (Modular)
N200
R9 280 Dual-X
1TB Serial ATA Drive

OK or not ?

Already in hand monitor/keyboard/mice/ 2 X 128GB SAMSUNG PRO 840.
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Cut down the power supply... and why with the 2x4GB RAM? Just stick with a single stick 8GB will do. icon_idea.gif

Consider getting a better CPU as well, since some games can take advantage of quad core CPUs... icon_idea.gif
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post Jul 7 2014, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(ryanice8888 @ Jul 7 2014, 07:13 PM)
@Minecrafter

Hey, if I were to get AMD fx-8320 with mobo (4+1) phase count vrm, it will still not work properly? I don't, won't overclock. Just wonder if for example I run it at stock 3.5 ghz, it will still throttle the CPU?
If I want it to run at full capabilities at the stock frequency 3.5ghz, isn't mobo with  4+1 vrms is enough?

Also, what about fx-6300, does it require higher phase count as well? Since it is 6-core.

Guide me, lack of knowledge in pc stuff. lol
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For the bold part... not really. A 4+1 power phase setup is simply insufficient for the 8 core FX CPU, as it doesn't have the ability to provide enough power to the CPU without throttling. An 8+2 power phase setup would be much better for that. icon_idea.gif

The FX-8320/8350 chips are known to exceed their rated 125W TDP, as outlined by lex here:
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Now, about the FX-6300 part... You can pair that CPU to most budget boards... just beware with some very cheap boards with an even weaker 3 phase power VRM (not designed for FX chips). Try to avoid MSI AMD boards as they are notorious for having very poorly designed VRMs. icon_idea.gif
Remember to do some research before buying... brows.gif

Note that more cores =! better gaming performance.
It's all about single-threaded performance, and this is where the i5 shines.

Not to mention the FX-8320/8350 requires a motherboard with very robust VRMs, which means only high-end boards would be able to support the CPU without throttling the CPU or blowing up the VRMs.

Eventually the cost involved is going to be higher than some Intel equivalents.

This is what happens if you try to pair a cheap board with a high-end AMD CPU:

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Phenom II X6 1090T at 4.0GHz+MSI 890FX motherboard.

In extreme cases your machine could end up like this:



Gigabyte X79-UD3 caught on fire, causing Gigabyte to issue a new BIOS and a product recall on their X79 boards. sweat.gif

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post Jul 8 2014, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(sj1314 @ Jul 8 2014, 10:36 AM)
[Budget] 2k and below

[Purpose] Spend most of the time gaming, movie/drama, surfing

[Hardwares that will be re-use] KB , mouse, speaker

[Monitor resolution] Best for d2?

[Games & softwares that use frequently] dota2 / csgo

[Location] JB

I will need a monitor as well. Preferable to be 22"
P.S: kindly post 2 suggestions for SSD and HDD build as per budget.. Still thinking to go for SSD or HDD
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FYI your 2K budget is not going to be suffice for a SSD setup unless you are willing to forgo the monitor, or going with a HDD only setup.

Anyway... this is what I'd get:

i3 4150-RM369
ASUS H81M-K-RM199
Kingston 1x4GB Value RAM-RM130
WD Blue 1TB-RM189
Palit GTX750 StormX-RM420 (GBros @ Garage Sales)
FSP Hexa+ 500W-RM155 (lingloong @ Garage Sales)
CM K280 Case-RM128
Dell S2240L 22 inch IPS monitor-RM519

Total: RM2109


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post Jul 8 2014, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(sj1314 @ Jul 8 2014, 12:13 PM)
Okay. What if we exclude the monitor..? Kindly advise in both builds and which is more recommen
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If you are playing D2 exclusively... just swap the monitor and grab the Intel 530 120GB for RM289. Then use the remaining cash to upgrade the CPU to an i5 4460. icon_idea.gif
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post Jul 8 2014, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(sj1314 @ Jul 8 2014, 01:18 PM)
Is it necessary to get a 500W psu?
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Not necessary, however it's always good to have some extra headroom for upgrades... icon_idea.gif

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