Afaik they have different control layout - smiley shaped

i have a question... why dont every trem guitar use locking nut? as far as i know, thats the stable setup a trem guitar can have...

lol i didnt notice that after looking at soo many

coz u gotta drill 2 holes for the nut to go in?

then again i thought all floating bridge guitars had them

wow mmg sure prs this year for u then

maybe not, i might pickk it up and go meh

i was thinking screw this guitar shit, buy IEM, recording devices, pedals and swap them pups on my gibsons

prb save me more monies doing it

but gapnap has a 57 reissue in his shop

sooo tempting

yeah... but why fender, didnt use it on their strat line? if not mistaken, the traditional nut is not smooth enough to move back the strings to its position.

Petrucci doesn't think so. Look at his JP models, floating trem with no locking nut, only locking tuners.

AFAIK, locking nuts will make it difficult to tune for normal trems without micro tuners.

That's why they have roller nuts. But traditonal nut can be good enough with a setup.

cause fender and fender uses locking tuners

fenders bridge is also different than the average floyd rose, the average fender player is less likely to do a wild pich harmonic dive bomb

locking nuts need a strong neck which normally means laminating the shit out of it, last time ibz 3 pc necks used to crack at the nut.

This post has been edited by +3kk!: Jun 2 2014, 04:13 PM

I think the cracks are mostly because the screws are over tightened at the locking nut, Ibanez thin necks made that even worse.

ibz crack at neck is not because it lacks a strong neck...even tho its pencil thin.
but because the nut was rear routed, as in the mounting screws were behind the neck, and not from top like traditional ones.

so many fenders, kramers, charvels, godins, esps, whatever got floyd rose...almost all top mounted...where got cracks.

This post has been edited by Everdying: Jun 3 2014, 11:56 AM

u mean to tell me only ibz does that?

didnt know, lol coz i dont play superstrats, i learn something new from sifu today.

ya basically ibanez only does that.


thats why some higher end ones u see a volute.


and this is how traditional ones are done.

the main difference, is top mounted doesnt drill all the way thru...and uses smaller shorter screws to mount the nut.
ibanez has to drill all the way thru as they also for some reason use thicker screws, so even less wood at that area.

Sebut pasal screw floyd rose ni teringat zaman masa mula angkat gitar dulu. I have fond memories of my very first guitar, which happened to be an Ibanez with a floyd rose on it . Being the noob that I was, I hadn't an inkling of the countless hours of grief, anguish and frustration the floating trem system would cause me. It began one fine day, after listening to a couple of Fear Factory records, I decided to attempt their crazy ass riffs.

So I set about to detune the guitar to B standard. After about an hour of noodling I realized my dreams of being the next Dino Cazares weren't happening. So ok lah, tune back up again. Tune tune tak jadi, tune tune tak jadi. The action was getting higher and higher but the guitar was nowhere in tune. Thinking back, it got ridiculous at one point - the neck bowed and the saddle rose so high i could stick a finger clear under Failing to get stuff to work, I had to send it back to arwah Pak Din at Art Tune to repair. The locking screw threads gave out and he cut his fingers on them.

After that and a series of other grievances, I decided to tell floyd trem lain kalilah. Did I say fond memories? I meant nightmares hahaha

thats why beli original

Ori mcm mana pun, kalu tak reti pakai jahanam gak bro hahaha

but functionally they are about the same no

i realised i've never had any back mount guitars

functionally same, but logically nope
imagine the way ibanez screws in, like 30% of the wood along the nut gone already...plus so thin...

Im sure there are many stories like this one.

My first Ibanez, an MIJ RG470, isn't that great at all but it teach me a lot about guitar setups.