Donny playing in the toilet paper roll...



Pie pie...

ahhaha. cuz they won't sit still for pictures!! and my girl girl fat fat nice to squeze

blergh. never happen gliders come out.. play play on lrt... see the rapid kl dude... faster hide... actually if I wasn't too lazy to go dig them out I'd let them run around free in the house even.. but my house so messy. one day I left Pie on the exercise bike... she go climb over to the bottom of the staircase... over to the kitchen, looking for me.

donny also... can go behind the radio.. or the back seat area of the car... call him he'll come back over...

seriously, tame gliders won't just go running around. our gliders can either choose to sit on our shoulder... and crawl back into their pouches when they're tired.


sugre, I just get whatever bag I think looks suitable for them. nothing special. pie's current bag is like a soft PDA/Handphone bag... from thailand... and donny's was bought at the stalls under the Imbi monorail..

like how people hang handphone around their necks...

OT: yup... over the tembok is the aviary if i'm not mistaken. next time I take pictures

so used to it already times that by 5.... one roll of toilet paper finish in 2 days.

I think that's just a supplement.... I mean, referring to the ingredients.

the one hun was talking about comes in a rather big tub. looks nasty to me. >_< Slurp serving me well. after all, glider mix has been used by glider keepers and breeders internationally. plus we know what's going into the food. we even taste it ourselves. I'm waiting for my gliders to grow a little bigger first before I add honey into the mix. It'll taste even better with honey

I change the flavours (I have 2-3 flavours stashed in the fridge) alternately. the babies love the stuff. everytime also polish their plates and eat until they look like hamsters and another good bit is that the food is watery so they get water as well cuz my gliders quite dumb dunno how to use the water bottle before this I also pour some milk (lactose and soy product free for pets) on top of the mix before serving.

the picture is right after meal time. just took. notice the freakishly large tummy. larkowen, if you're looking, that's your glider.

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can can. cage here already. will talk to u tonight


actually I'd lean more towards dog food because cats are strictly carnivorous while gliders arent. they're omnivourous so dog food would be more suited for them since gliders, like dogs, take veggies, fruits and grains as well as meat. I've never tried kibbles before. only wet food. But do go for holistic food only. Look through the ingredients and make sure they are all acceptable by gliders.


some pics of a glider boy going to his new owner tomorrow






Pie pie eating cricket



abit the sesat... my sleepy doggie

I've been keeping him for over month already and he's been fine with me. you're his new owner and he's still trying to get used to his new surrounding. don't be afraid of him. bond with him.

feed him every morning and night.


aiyoh.. he's not fierce la... he escaped from his cage... lost in a place where he has no familiarity of... and then suddenly this dude that he barely knows comes running after him. not scared meh?

what you do is, get a pouch or place him in your pocket. let him get used to u. gain his trust. cuz seriously, he's fine with me because he recognises me.

yah! because you crushed him with 3 tubs of spiders and scorpions. you see I take him out nothing also

uh.... gliders are nocturnal. they shouldn't be very active in the day and please do not attempt to "convert their sleeping timing".

it's a very huge misconception that bonding and taming gliders means you have to play with them 24/7. you're gonna stress that poor thing and can die from stress.
bonding with gliders in the day means you keep it by your body in a pouch (PDA pouch or something). some girls here do "bra bonding". guys can put the glider in their shirt pockets. the glider will be sleeping and at the same time, getting used to your smell and they will appreciate your body heat and breathing movements. take them out for lunch, handfeeding them worms and fruits.

play with them at night while they're active.

adult gliders are extremely hard to tame. put a smelly t-shirt over the cage or as a lining of it's sleeping area to let it get used to your scent. slowly gain its trust by handfeeding. be prepared to get bitten and scratched at though. if you can't handle that, it'd be quite hard to tame.



My pie pie so clever Taggy's sisters play with her but left her in her bag downstairs. the bag zipped. she learned how to open the zip already. so anyway, she opened the zip, found her way upstairs... looking for taggy. morning mummy see her playing with my meow (Tremmie). Now she's not scared of Tremmie already. lol.

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use a studry material-ed bag la. the one I"m using one is denim. she can't really chew a hole in it. Donny's bag is slowly being destroyed. lol. he naughty.

Pie loves ice cream. hee hee. the other day she kena 2 drops kopi-o ping... so bloody hyper for like 10 hours. lol. jumping all over the bunk (train)

ahh.. people always stare. some even crowd and ask and take pictures. got used to it.


well, they like the outdoors alot in my opinion and when you really bond with them, they won't stray. they're very loyal critters.



Larkown bought a male glider from me not too long ago. if it wasn't for the fact that I saw how inquisitive of him and such and somewhat desperate to get a glider, I wouldn't have sold it to him. I'm guessing the glider he sold to you was from me. sheesh. poor lil fella. being tossed around is not good for a baby glider. did he sell you the cage and all as well? rush me so much and see what he does.

he sold the hermit crabs that he bought from me too.

haha. we usually carry a 3cm container full of mealworms. Pie take ALOT of mealworms.

raisins are fine as a treat. as long as they didn't add any sugar and other funny stuff in it, should be fine.

er... you can't bathe a glider. they easily catch colds. plus the hair dryer is just gonna burn them.

use baby wet wipes (fragrance and alcohol free). it's not in their "nature" to be scared. it's normal to be scared when they're introduced into a new environment especially with adult gliders that have had either too little contact with humans or have been throwned around amongst different owners.

the signs of stress can be quite scary varying from a mere constant back flips to fur pulling and feet chewing. again, you don't have to "play" with the gliders so much to tame them. just keeping them close to your body.. handfeeding.. is bonding. try your best to not poke at them when they're sleeping.

bring your glider with you is your best bet or get a glider sitter. gliders shouldn't miss meals. I brought my glider to penang with me for holiday. sit train. no problem. a small cage does come in handy.

not very high chance. they don't know their home enough to come back.

put tissues or a cloth in the hide. change often.

er... I put in a pouch.

carrots are not all that well accepted. apples most widely accepted. grapes too and rambutan. anyways, they can't live off fruits. make or buy a glider mix for them. never too young or too old for the mix.

calcium powder get sera (reptimineral-c for reptiles). good brand. vitamin can go for canopy small animal vitamin.

actually, you can advise all you want but there are loads of customers who just do not listen because they always think that they're right. so, at a point, you just get fed up. you teach them so much... blablabla... in the end, no point. it's not because sellers undereducated although I do know sellers who really couldn't be bothered. lol. a supplier got fed up with this seller I know that he told her to just feed the gliders Fuji apples. and there you go... you get sellers who go around telling people that gliders only eat fuji apples. lol.

pet stores stock up on pet food. they're not gonna tell you to make your own food when they sell a certain food. they can't tell the customer that this or that is not good. if it;s not good then why sell em yeah? and no, gliders do not have to be in pairs. I sell many gliders singly and frankly I find most of them to be much better off singly compared to many of the ones I sold in pairs because the single glider gets very attached to their owner and vice versa. they're not such a handful that the owner would get tired of them and always take for granted that the pair can entertain themselves.

your kiah teeth itchy. lol.

I've always informed my customers on the conditions of keeping gliders singly. wouldn't recommend it to people keep gliders in cage most of the time and only take them out when they feel like playing with them. I don't recommend keeping singly to everyone. only to some people.

gliders are actually not as bothersome as people think. even when it comes to some working environment. gliders are very easy pets to smuggle into the work place. lol. I can work at a cosmetic counter and a strict and high end mall and still bring my glider. my mom brings her glider to work and so does her colleague. A friend of ours brought his glider to work with him. My cousin is a kindergarten teacher and she brings her glider to work. they are very well behaved in the day. they sleep most of the time.

personally for me, a single glider is more suited for my lifestyle. when Pie goes hyper, I'm already having a hard time keeping up with her. imagine 2 gliders. during travel, it's definitely easier to care for 1 glider.

Pie isn't alone though. she has a friend, Donny. Even though they are attached to different owners and live in different cages, they get along when I pop pie into donny's cage.

I dunno, I guess I find that there are quite a number people who keep gliders in pairs, take for granted that they can neglect their gliders. Coming back from work... tired... not gonna play with the gliders. they can keep each other company. just feed them will do. even for myself I feel that way when I had to babysit a bunch of gliders. it has crossed my mind a couple of times that feeding will do because the gliders can entertain each other. they won't be lonely. but when I'm having only one glider, I push myself to play with them and spend time with them with the fear that they'll get lonely. and we all know how bad is the effect of loneliness towards gliders.

also, because many owners just cage up their gliders, they get less attached to their gliders. I mean, there sure are a bunch of people who can't handle their gliders at all. can't cut their nails... bites, scratches, jumping everywhere despite having kept them for a long time. when you guys see Pie with Taggy and Donny with my mom.... they're so affectionate. my cousin's glider cries for her when she went out of the room and when she returned, he came running towards her. our friend's glider would wait at the door in the morning, knowing that she'll be brought to work. Donny snuggled up to my mom when she just came home from a 3 day trip to sarawak.

for people who wanna keep gliders for the sake of it, keep at least in a pair. for people who wants a companion, it's ok to keep only one. they are great companions.

it's fine to take him out for pictures. I've done so many times.
anyways, good to know that he's in better hands. apparently larkowen couldn't handle this lil fella.

long time already lor.... but not exactly "mine". Donny's attached to my mom. Pie's attached to Taggy and temporarily attached to anyone who'd give her food.


wah.. kiah so sam seng already ah? last time so stone....

aih... price wise... yes, many people take advantage of the fact that a certain pet is cheap. I mean, like hamsters. if it's dead, so what? not much big of a loss. but it's kinda like human nature that we appreciate things that are more expensive unfortunately. so yeah, defintiely if the price goes lower (it already has tremendously), people will surely take advantage of that. but even if the price was high there will be many idiots who take care of their gliders badly.

however, I don't have to get my critters at high prices in order to treat them well. once you bond with a critter, even if they are free, you'd still appreciate them. obviously, I get my gliders cheaper than many others. my hedgehog was only RM50... and yet they get the proper care that they need and given the right food to eat.

the best, despite whether the gliders are cheap or not, is not to have impulsive buyers. that's the main problem here. most glider owners are either lazy to read up on proper care or merely rely on pet store and seller information. feed your gliders apples their whole life... that whole life would be 8 months. don't feed your gliders and calcium supplement (milk and yogurt even)... your gliders will always look like it's "flying"....

shows how much "research" you actually did. what a waste of gliders, money and time. really pity your gliders.

yaloh... and of all places to fight... under the driver's seat... kiah was on the accelerator. ish. glider fighting donny also wanna sibuk.. my hand all scratches. now also still itchy.

because there are people so clueless to not read the words... only see pictures...

haha.

ah... how to grab gliders with gloves? and their claws can still sink in

that would work if the glider was yours. when you're babysitting someone else's glider... it wont be about trust because the glider has put its trust on its owner. only reason it's not biting and making a fuss is because it's tame.

sugre, it's not impossible that your glider simply doesn't click with you. it happens. like Donny, he couldn't click with his previous owner to the point that he was returned but he clicked with my mom.
my mom's friend's gliders... the male doesn't click with her but clicks with the sister. only the female clicks with her.