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TSHenryLow
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 Nov 6 2006, 10:31 PM
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liddat oso can, you win liao lor.
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QUOTE(ac98 @ Nov 6 2006, 10:23 PM) Shinchan you wanna take up that challenge? Prove to him it's the SKILL and not the HARDWARE   I dun believe the D70s is that bad, at least when I was using the D70 for a pagent with terrible lighting also it's never that bad. I believe the D80 can pull off with bad environment lighting, but D70 owners dun spend thousands to buy a camera that terrible kua. The lighting at 1 Utama that day to me it's kacang putih only ler, my 300D also can tapau those spotlights easily! Let shinchan rake the challenge and prove me wrong... I love to accept the result if it show me wrong... Let'd do this: 1. HenryLow with D80 + 50mm f1.8 2. shinchan^^ with D70s + 50mm f1.8 Don see compo... just see the picture quality... see white balance and colour tones... that's all...  |
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ac98
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Nov 6 2006, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(HenryLow @ Nov 6 2006, 06:12 PM) Thanks for sifu's comments... Need bring flash liao if indoor shoot model... I never said that. I only said your WB is out. I need to master your WB and learn how to 'READ' colour. Firstly, you need to know what is White Balance, then you need to know WHICH colour corrects WHICH colour and learn to apply them accordingly i.e Tungsten Mode actually covers an image with a Blue tint to cut out Yellow cast caused by Yellow spotlights. You need to learn and master these settings and apply them accordingly. My Japanese friend used to "There are no secrets in Photography, only selfish Photographers" |
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TSHenryLow
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Nov 6 2006, 10:32 PM
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liddat oso can, you win liao lor.
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QUOTE(fulat @ Nov 6 2006, 10:29 PM) ya... agree with ac98. D70 wasnt that bad at all... was thinking might get a D70 later.... u ask ahleong b4 u get... |
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TSHenryLow
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Nov 6 2006, 10:34 PM
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liddat oso can, you win liao lor.
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QUOTE(ac98 @ Nov 6 2006, 10:32 PM) I never said that. I only said your WB is out. I need to master your WB and learn how to 'READ' colour. Firstly, you need to know what is White Balance, then you need to know WHICH colour corrects WHICH colour and learn to apply them accordingly i.e Tungsten Mode actually covers an image with a Blue tint to cut out Yellow cast caused by Yellow spotlights. You need to learn and master these settings and apply them accordingly. My Japanese friend used to "There are no secrets in Photography, only selfish Photographers" By the way, if shinchan accept the challenge... White Balance there need set to Auto... That's it... See D70s & D80 Result: 1. Auto White Balance... 2. Picture Colour Tones... This 2 only... |
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fulat
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Nov 6 2006, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(HenryLow @ Nov 6 2006, 10:32 PM) u ask ahleong b4 u get... kekekek.... no need... i played before... and i know where can get cheap also... anyway... that day in bird park damn paiseh... all D200 with many mroe than 10k lens there....  nikon depand on lens and skill la... not which model... This post has been edited by fulat: Nov 6 2006, 10:37 PM |
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aaron
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Nov 6 2006, 10:39 PM
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wah..fulat..u wan get D70 already? lost a Pana member again  where got sell D70 cheap? |
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TSHenryLow
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Nov 6 2006, 10:41 PM
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liddat oso can, you win liao lor.
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QUOTE(fulat @ Nov 6 2006, 10:36 PM) kekekek.... no need... i played before... and i know where can get cheap also... anyway... that day in bird park damn paiseh... all D200 with many mroe than 10k lens there.... nikon depand on lens and skill la... not which model... OK... Let same ppl using D70s & D80... compare and u ask them which one they like... SKILL huh... then ASK why they choose that model... |
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scotty
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Nov 6 2006, 10:44 PM
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THX Certified Conman
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wait this test is comparing someone's skill or the machine itself? why dont we put it this way. do whateca u like to the cam. but the result must be good le  if shinchan can get good WB with the d70s means is skill la. if cannot means the cam la  |
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fulat
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Nov 6 2006, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE(aaron @ Nov 6 2006, 10:39 PM) wah..fulat..u wan get D70 already? lost a Pana member again where got sell D70 cheap? thinking... anyway... i booked ya FZ50 owner D80 already... he might upgrade to D200. that day he saw so many D200 in bird park he boh song liao... QUOTE(HenryLow @ Nov 6 2006, 10:41 PM) OK... Let same ppl using D70s & D80... compare and u ask them which one they like... SKILL huh... then ASK why they choose that model... because it's NEW! |
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TSHenryLow
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Nov 6 2006, 10:47 PM
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liddat oso can, you win liao lor.
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QUOTE(scotty @ Nov 6 2006, 10:44 PM) wait this test is comparing someone's skill or the machine itself? why dont we put it this way. do whateca u like to the cam. but the result must be good le if shinchan can get good WB with the d70s means is skill la. if cannot means the cam la OKOK... Let do like this... Ask shinchan use D80 & D70s shoot on sad model same place same pose... Setting: 1. Auto White Balance... 2. Normal Image Optimization Mode... See the result... Don blame skill... coz is shinchan^^ shoot alone... Don't tell me SKILL... Now compare GEAR... EDITED: Shoot in JPGThis post has been edited by HenryLow: Nov 6 2006, 10:50 PM |
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ac98
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Nov 6 2006, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(HenryLow @ Nov 6 2006, 06:12 PM) Thanks for sifu's comments... Need bring flash liao if indoor shoot model... I never said that. I only said your WB is out. You need to master your WB and learn how to 'READ' colour. Firstly, you need to know what is White Balance, then you need to know WHICH colour corrects WHICH colour and learn to apply them accordingly i.e Tungsten Mode actually covers an image with a Blue tint to cut out Yellow cast caused by Yellow spotlights. You need to learn and master these settings and apply them accordingly. My Japanese friend used to "There are no secrets in Photography, only selfish Photographers" This post has been edited by ac98: Nov 6 2006, 10:52 PM |
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aaron
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Nov 6 2006, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(fulat @ Nov 6 2006, 10:45 PM) thinking... anyway... i booked ya FZ50 owner D80 already... he might upgrade to D200. that day he saw so many D200 in bird park he boh song liao... because it's NEW! OMG....u book already? aiyo..no chance for me to grab his D80 lor....than i hv to book his D200 when he upgrade to D2X lor... |
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fulat
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Nov 6 2006, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(aaron @ Nov 6 2006, 10:53 PM) OMG....u book already? aiyo..no chance for me to grab his D80 lor....than i hv to book his D200 when he upgrade to D2X lor... lol.... yeah... i booked already.... |
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aaron
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Nov 6 2006, 10:57 PM
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u oso book his D200? the i book ur D80 lor...haha.....
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ac98
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Nov 6 2006, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(fulat @ Nov 6 2006, 10:29 PM) ya... agree with ac98. D70 wasnt that bad at all... was thinking might get a D70 later.... On the other hand, I suggest you get the D80 if you can stretch your budget, let me tell you why : 1. 10MP gives you a better edge coming to sharpness and resolution. 2. WB can be adjusted FURTHER should you ram into those tricky situations i.e bad lightings that go WAY beyond present WB can adjust. 3. Bigger LCD (2.5") for clearer and sharper preview and playback. 4. Faster and more precise zooming during image playback 5. 11 Selectable AF Points (same as D200) Poison .... This post has been edited by ac98: Nov 6 2006, 11:00 PM |
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fulat
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Nov 6 2006, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(ac98 @ Nov 6 2006, 10:58 PM) On the other hand, I suggest you get the D80 if you can stretch your budget, let me tell you why : 1. 10MP gives you a better edge coming to sharpness and resolution. 2. WB can be adjusted FURTHER should you ram into those tricky situation i.e lightings that go WAY beyong present WB can adjust. 3. Bigger LCD (2.5") for clearer and sharper preview and playback. 4. Faster and more precise zooming5. 11 Selectable AF Points Poison .... i can see the different of point 4 compare with my FZ30. the zooming are faster for sure... but the rest can use skill to improve right? those bird park pictures i posted all 5mp only...maybe that's why the photos was not sharp. i added only hoya super CPL. This post has been edited by fulat: Nov 6 2006, 11:02 PM |
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ac98
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Nov 6 2006, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(HenryLow @ Nov 6 2006, 10:31 PM) Don see compo... just see the picture quality... see white balance and colour tones... that's all... Wah you very smart ... counter offer lagi  |
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scotty
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Nov 6 2006, 11:02 PM
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THX Certified Conman
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wait henry. no u cant ask him shoot in auto WB. ask him do whateva he think's best |
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ac98
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Nov 6 2006, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(fulat @ Nov 6 2006, 11:01 PM) i can see the different of point 4 compare with my FZ30. the zooming are faster for sure... but the rest can use skill to improve right? those bird park pictures i posted all 5mp only...maybe that's why the photos was not sharp. i added only hoya super CPL. ... which is the more you need a DSLR. With one, you can move on further to improve your skills. Dun worry about lenses and flashes and all, it's all there when you buy. Always imagine this "With what I have now I am good, with a DSLR I can be BETTER ..." and once you see images from a DSLR shot by your own hands, there's NO MORE TURNING BACK |
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ac98
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Nov 6 2006, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(aaron @ Nov 6 2006, 10:57 PM) u oso book his D200? the i book ur D80 lor...haha..... Nice to hear so many prosumers going up up UP to DSLR now! Buahahahaha ... |
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