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leonhang
post May 2 2014, 07:41 PM

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I suggest Singapore go buy Brunei.

Singapore need more lands, Malaysia don't.
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post May 2 2014, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(leonhang @ May 2 2014, 07:41 PM)
I suggest Singapore go buy Brunei.

Singapore need more lands, Malaysia don't.
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singapore would not want a sharia state who is also so focused on race. too far, very hard to govern. bintan, batam or johor are much preferable.

for malaysia, absorption of brunei means opening up sarawakians traveling to northern sarawak / sabah. currently they need to bypass brunei, whose immigration checkpoints are inefficient and who impose tarrifs on commercial vehicles.
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post May 2 2014, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(rivost @ May 2 2014, 07:48 PM)
singapore would not want a sharia state who is also so focused on race. too far, very hard to govern. bintan, batam or johor are much preferable.

for malaysia, absorption of brunei means opening up sarawakians traveling to northern sarawak / sabah. currently they need to bypass brunei, whose immigration checkpoints are inefficient and who impose tarrifs on commercial vehicles.
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But if they joined Sabah and Sarawak, the natives there won't like it since most of Brunei are Muslims. Well, if Singapore buys it, they can turn it into non-sharia state, since they are quite a lot of liberals in Brunei as well, just not as many as the non-liberals.

I don't know that, how does this actually works, you mean only the Brunei side has proper roads to drive to Sabah ?
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post May 2 2014, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(leonhang @ May 2 2014, 07:55 PM)
But if they joined Sabah and Sarawak, the natives there won't like it since most of Brunei are Muslims. Well, if Singapore buys it, they can turn it into non-sharia state, since they are quite a lot of liberals in Brunei as well, just not as many as the non-liberals.

I don't know that, how does this actually works, you mean only the Brunei side has proper roads to drive to Sabah ?
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known as the pan borneo highway, it is the most effective form of traveling there.

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they should have bypass brunei and just connect sabah and sarawak directly, but of course funding issue.
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post May 2 2014, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ May 2 2014, 12:09 PM)
To malaysians who dislike living in malaysia, want hudud and don't care about country's economy, brunei is perfect place for you.
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post May 2 2014, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 2 2014, 07:28 AM)
As worse it come they will just join Malaysia.
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Maybe:

"This is a test from god, we must work harder. in**-*****, we will prevail."

Who is the "we"? hmm.gif
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post May 2 2014, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ May 2 2014, 08:02 AM)
Thats the thing when religion becomes law. You dont get to question religious dogma.
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This is the part where most ppl who call for religious law don't get. All they keep saying is "if you don't do wrong, no need scared."

It has happen many times throughout history, from old kings and emperors appointing priests to declare them as god-kings, to Church corruption and scandal.

Dunno why this ppl refuse to learn or just want to tutup mata to history.

Already, in present state, ppl very hesitant to question when words come out from the religious ppl. When these words become law, who dares to question?
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post May 2 2014, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(jonoave @ May 2 2014, 08:43 PM)
This is the part where most ppl who call for religious law don't get. All they keep saying is "if you don't do wrong, no need scared."

It has happen many times throughout history, from old kings and emperors appointing priests to declare them as god-kings, to Church corruption and scandal.

Dunno why this ppl refuse to learn or just want to tutup mata to history.

Already, in present state, ppl very hesitant to question when words come out from the religious ppl. When these words become law, who dares to question?
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who know you will get this news one day

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Bruneians to build stairs to reach heaven

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post May 2 2014, 09:56 PM

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why I have bad feeling that China will expand its territory and absorb Brunei..... hmm.gif
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post May 2 2014, 10:04 PM

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post May 2 2014, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 2 2014, 05:22 PM)
I still don't see the connection with their economic problems though. Sure, it's a way for the Sultan to stay in power but I see no cause and effect between hudud and the economy while most of the posts here are making it seem like there is a connection.
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It's no different than a secular dictator enacting draconian laws to keep his country in line. Brunei can't even give the excuse of sanctions like the conditions on Venezuela and North Korea. Their woes stem from just sheer incompetence on the part of the Brunei leadership.

It's not about Islam, it's about theocracy in general. If you disagreed with something your local imam or ustaz is preaching, would you dare to stand up and tell him that he's wrong? I sincerely doubt it.
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 2 2014, 12:22 PM)
I still don't see the connection with their economic problems though. Sure, it's a way for the Sultan to stay in power but I see no cause and effect between hudud and the economy while most of the posts here are making it seem like there is a connection.
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QUOTE(ray123 @ May 2 2014, 05:23 PM)
It's no different than a secular dictator enacting draconian laws to keep his country in line. Brunei can't even give the excuse of sanctions like the conditions on Venezuela and North Korea. Their woes stem from just sheer incompetence on the part of the Brunei leadership.

It's not about Islam, it's about theocracy in general. If you disagreed with something your local imam or ustaz is preaching, would you dare to stand up and tell him that he's wrong? I sincerely doubt it.
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Noted phrase when the Church was corrupted and held power over Europe:

"If you're against us, you're against God."

Foosh, how you want to lawan?

You see some politicians also like to hide behind phrases like, "Only god knows I'm telling the truth. That is enough." In US there is the tradition of people declaring to tell the truth by placing their hand on Bible, and some in Malaysia start to follow the trend.

You see how easy it is to hide behind a theocracy veil.

If you read back history, many kings and emperors in the past declare themselves as god-kings or chosen ones to rule on earth. The second in power is usually the priests who helps to spread the image of the divine king and the people will usually follow the wise words from these priests, who "act" as the bridge between human and their deities. That's why people don't dare to question for fearing divine retribution, and the king can do as he wants because he is the "chosen one". The priests also get benefits as they are "special people" who can communicate with the deities, from the king who give them a lot of power (thus second in hierarchy) and from people who usually will give a lot of offering to the the priests (meant for the deities) and kings.


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post May 2 2014, 10:59 PM

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once Sabah's major oil finds is translated into petrodollars, brunei oil revenue will definitely slide even further
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post May 3 2014, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(vuetnam @ May 2 2014, 09:56 PM)
why I have bad feeling that China will expand its territory and absorb Brunei..... hmm.gif
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China: Sorry, one Xinjiang I already headache
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post May 3 2014, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(rivost @ May 3 2014, 09:59 AM)
China: Sorry, one Xinjiang I already headache
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china kan control the spartly and paracel islands, they can just invade brunei, like what russia do to crimea
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post May 5 2014, 09:12 PM

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Wonder how long Brunei can continue to peg to SGD.
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QUOTE(Freeloader @ May 5 2014, 09:12 PM)
Wonder how long Brunei can continue to peg to SGD.
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if I not mistaken, it already pegged into SG dollar, I think they wun separate from SG dollar for now hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

need /k/ financial expert to explain
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post May 8 2014, 10:08 PM

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No oil? Thats ok. They will all go Heaven.

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