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spring onion
post Jun 3 2014, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Jun 3 2014, 12:32 PM)
My gain is minimal, disregarding its record low. About 20% gain  hmm.gif

Less than that, maybe around 15
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revaluation of land.... hmm... if like that for me i won't hold it for long. but expect the counter to have strong support and possible to touch rm3
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post Jun 3 2014, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Jun 3 2014, 12:22 PM)
Boon3 gor, how does E&O look now? Kinda flying today hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 3 2014, 02:44 PM)
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post Jun 3 2014, 03:15 PM

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post Jun 3 2014, 04:52 PM

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E&O... those who buy kena trap? or this is just beginning?
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post Jun 3 2014, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Jun 3 2014, 04:52 PM)
E&O... those who buy kena trap? or this is just beginning?
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Trap?
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post Jun 3 2014, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(tstan8_8 @ Jun 3 2014, 05:02 PM)
Trap?
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gonna be trapped for a very long time laugh.gif
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post Jun 3 2014, 05:18 PM

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btw,

CCM DUOPHARMA BIOTECH BHD

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dividend yield not bad, but wonder why this counter ain't not going up???
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post Jun 3 2014, 05:30 PM

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Y my latitude keep on dropping??Poor result??
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post Jun 3 2014, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(wenqing @ Jun 3 2014, 05:30 PM)
Y my latitude keep on dropping??Poor result??
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haha homeritz, hevea also also kena... homeritz at least got dividend policy. hevea? no idea what the management will do about it since its actually a growth stock
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post Jun 4 2014, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Jun 3 2014, 05:18 PM)
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dividend yield not bad, but wonder why this counter ain't not going up???
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Well done! thumbup.gif
At least someone else here is willing to share and discus. rclxm9.gif

hmmm..... interesting. tongue.gif

Used to watch this for a while in my 555 but lost interest cos the earnings was in a general decline.
Check the fiscal profits from 2009 to 2012.
It showed a decline.
BUT have to say, profits have recovered quite a fair bit if you look at the past 4 quarters.

In regards to why the stock is not going up....
Actually in my opinion, the stock got move up a fair bit....
although I have to say perhaps the current 'correction'/'downtrend' looks overdone. wink.gif

Proof of the profits turnaround was first seen in the report announced on 28/8/13
Stock traded at 2.40 then.
Since then the stock hit a high of 3.20.
A gain of 80 sen or 33%.

For some, maybe the stock still got room to jalan.... tongue.gif
For some, they are not too sure how much of up room there is. tongue.gif (they take into consideration stock had a low of 2.10 in 2013) tongue.gif
For some, they might just see the current weakness as an opportunity to jump into this gravy train. tongue.gif




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post Jun 4 2014, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Jun 2 2014, 12:02 PM)
YTL sad.gif
Cannot trust too much what you read on the papers.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...big-since-2008/

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As of March 31, 2014, YTL Corp had a total cash reserve of RM12.8bil.


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They forgot NICELY to mention their debts. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Is like girl meets boy.
Girl asks how much money you have in FD.
But girl no ask how much loans (housing loans, car loans, credit cards loans) he has. tongue.gif

Anyway as posted earlier... YTL's mountain of debts.....

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total only 33 billion.

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post Jun 4 2014, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 4 2014, 07:57 AM)
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current price is below 3, might be tempting to some who wants high divvy yeild, growth prospect is there as long there is a increase quarter to quarter,

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haha. boon, i buy a few lots because i believe this quarter got nice figure, plan it for weeks trading. indeed it has nearly reach 1.80 but the shariah thingy made it went down the drain
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Jun 4 2014, 11:06 AM)
current price is below 3, might be tempting to some who wants high divvy yeild, growth prospect is there as long there is a increase quarter to quarter,

haha. boon, i buy a few lots because i believe this quarter got nice figure, plan it for weeks trading. indeed it has nearly reach 1.80 but the shariah thingy made it went down the drain
Not a dividend player.
Mentioned that many times before.
My thinking is simple, no profit = no dividends..
so profits is more important than dividends.

LOL!
I just wanted to point out the fact that it is very misleading everywhere.
Newspaper is misleading many times.
Research reports too.
Forum postings cannot be trusted totally.
You really need to dig your own info.

On the shariah thingee.
There's one interesting point.
YTL Power was removed last Nov (or is Dec?).
The removal thing from shariah list is based on debts issue. (does make sense a bit sense for me. you do not want to invest in companies saddled with huge debts)
So if YTL Power was removed end last year, the baffling question was why wasn't YTL Corp? ;w

I told you I don't trade daily....
which means, when I trade, I trade for stocks which has huge potential.
I always shy away from those mickey mouse trades la.... sweat.gif
I don't believe in making kfc trades.

That's my mindset. icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Jun 4 2014, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 4 2014, 11:28 AM)
Not a dividend player.
Mentioned that many times before.
My thinking is simple, no profit = no dividends..
so profits is more important than dividends.

LOL!
I just wanted to point out the fact that it is very misleading everywhere.
Newspaper is misleading many times.
Research reports too.
Forum postings cannot be trusted totally.
You really need to dig your own info.

On the shariah thingee.
There's one interesting point.
YTL Power was removed last Nov (or is Dec?).
The removal thing from shariah list is based on debts issue. (does make sense a bit sense for me. you do not want to invest in companies saddled with huge debts)
So if YTL Power was removed end last year, the baffling question was why wasn't YTL Corp? ;w

I told you I don't trade daily....
which means, when I trade, I trade for stocks which has huge potential.
I always shy away from those mickey mouse trades la.... sweat.gif
I don't believe in making kfc trades.

That's my mindset.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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well said mr Boon, must learn from you, the mindset once correct, do anything also correct, thank you for sharing notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 4 2014, 11:28 AM)
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So if YTL Power was removed end last year, the baffling question was why wasn't YTL Corp? ;w

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for YTL corp, i don't know, why not you tell me laugh.gif profit is intact, debt existed long time ago and thus proven to have good equity management

back to the CCMD counter, profit increases after decrease over last few years, which means that the upward trend is being expected. if CCMD profit does not interest you, so then what's the profit pattern that's worth investing?

do you prefer
A:
2010-25M
2011-35M
2012-40M
2013-43M

or
B:
2010-35M
2011-25M
2012-30M
2013-35M

???? teach us how to look at profit pattern for good potential stock tongue.gif

This post has been edited by spring onion: Jun 4 2014, 11:44 AM
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post Jun 4 2014, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Jun 4 2014, 11:42 AM)
for YTL corp, i don't know, why not you tell me  laugh.gif profit is intact, debt existed long time ago and thus proven to have good equity management
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Yes, the point is the debt existed long ago but how come not many wanted to point this out?
This is always my point about YTL.
You surf around, and you only hear YTL is cash rich. laugh.gif
How many times would you hear someone else talk about their debts? rolleyes.gif

WHY I no tell me the profit is intact (in fact growing too. tongue.gif )?
why?
cos you already told me so. LOL! LOL!

Kawan, you first posted it (and in your post, YOU highlighted the growth in profits) and I replied you in post #589

And what I say?

I pointed out to you that the TTM already suggested that profits is much better. whistling.gif

Must I repeat that again meh?

LOL!

QUOTE(spring onion @ Jun 4 2014, 11:42 AM)
back to the CCMD counter, profit increases after decrease over last few years, which means that the upward trend is being expected. if CCMD profit does not interest you, so then what's the profit pattern that's worth investing?

do you prefer
A:
2010-25M
2011-35M
2012-40M
2013-43M

or
B:
2010-35M
2011-25M
2012-30M
2013-35M
For your example, I would say A is much better.

Errr... CCMD, I state it as it is wor....

the fact was fiscal profits from 2009 to 2012, showed a decline.
and profits had turnaround since Aug last year.

How else you want me to say it? tongue.gif

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for YTLC, i also can't comment much, i was just expecting a better quarter, that will eventually cause the price to move upwards, and it did. itu la, i found a nice guarantee KFC bucket of fried chicken... but shit happens. the rest is just history... quite sad to mention about it too

for CCMD, it's actually to ask you all about the profit outlook. whether it's an apple of your eye. cause you mentioned many times mar, got profit got divvy

but what's the reason you choose A, profit seems to reach saturation point, whereelse B have good upside potential?
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Jun 4 2014, 12:16 PM)
for YTLC, i also can't comment much, i was just expecting a better quarter, that will eventually cause the price to move upwards, and it did. itu la, i found a nice guarantee KFC bucket of fried chicken... but shit happens. the rest is just history... quite sad to mention about it too

for CCMD, it's actually to ask you all about the profit outlook. whether it's an apple of your eye. cause you mentioned many times mar, got profit got divvy

but what's the reason you choose A, profit seems to reach saturation point, whereelse B have good upside potential?
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for profit outlook for CCMD, a more in-depth study will be needed.
I cannot say much until I understand its current business and its products.
I will want to find out why the profits slumped from 2009.
I know some wouldn't bother about this but I would.
understanding what has happened before is always a plus for me.
As it is, I really got nothing much to say since I do not know its products.

( Also, I might need to compare it to Pharmaniaga and Kotra and AHealth also)

Yes, profit A might look to reach a saturation point but as it is, it has the better track record.
And you are of course right, B could have its potential too.

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 4 2014, 12:26 PM)
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CCMD
the reason why the drop in profit in 2009
cash expenses increases, revenue remains intact

the reason why the increase in profit in 2013
cash expenses remains, revenue increases whistling.gif

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