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 <WTA> How much should i charge ?, Using autoCAD to draw this car chassic.

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TSimisu29
post Jul 31 2006, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(chilicandy @ Jul 31 2006, 09:16 PM)
if its going to be 3 piece final print out work...
and if you can get it done by 2 full day work

the price of RM 550 should be reasonable for a freelancer.

One thing about freelancer charges, it should be cheaper than those professional with companies attached.

first, your overhead charges are lower, you only spend your time on the PC plus some electricity bills... biggrin.gif

and if you are only going to just burn on the CD to pass the final works to him, you only had additional RM 1 or less for the CD cost...
unless, you need to print them out for him, then you have to add those cost for the papers and inks....

probably, its time you should come up with a graph...
your time - how much time u spend on working on that thing = ur pay
cost involves - what things you used that involves in getting the final work done

that should helps you give better quotation.

and lastly,
even if he is related to you. But if your price is good and reliable,
think that there would be more contacts coming your way = more $$$

words spreads by mouth.

Imagine your uncle having some mamak session with his friends, and his friends tells him about some works he needs drawing done. And then they your uncle tells him how much u charge. And you were way cheaper than the one he is getting from some one else...

then, voila ! you got a new contact coming your way...

thats how business grow...
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 31 2006, 06:43 PM)
@estuko: u have to bear in mind that professional charged is only viable if you have a reputable company, take blame for design error and runs the design on LEGITIMATE autoCAD copy (not crack, ehem ehem or student version punya)

trivia: AutoCAD LT (only 2D) costs rm 1,500+

AutoCAD full version (3d capable) = upwards of 10k for one license

now, that explains why professional fee is expensive wink.gif
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QUOTE(etsuko @ Jul 31 2006, 10:32 AM)
I think if you're still a student, use mclelun's advice.

Even if you're freelancing, use mclelun's advice as well unless you're sure of how much you want to charge.

My advice is that your uncle's friend seems to be a really close to your uncle so he treats you especially nice and tries to teach you the ropes of dealing. To be fair to him, charge RM5-10 per hour and then later this is how you calculate your time.

If your work is done in half an hour, charge for 1 hour and later small little changes you don't have to charge him. If you've been working 6 hours and 10 minutes then don't charge him 7 hours but 6 hours only. If he needs small changes, do it because you're a pro and shouldn't take long. However, if you feel that it's changes you'll be spending at least half an hour on then let him know you'll need to charge him an extra hour.

Being a freelancer or taking on open projects is risky in terms of changes if clients only pay a one sum fee because they might just use it to their advantage. It's a Malaysian culture thing and sometimes they themselves don't realize anymore.

Hope that helps.

Cheers.
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Thank you so much guys, i appreciate all of your comments.

Gonna meet my uncle friend's tomorrow, will update you all the status.
Again, thank for the comments given. thumbup.gif


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post Aug 1 2006, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 31 2006, 06:43 PM)
@estuko: u have to bear in mind that professional charged is only viable if you have a reputable company, take blame for design error and runs the design on LEGITIMATE autoCAD copy (not crack, ehem ehem or student version punya)

trivia: AutoCAD LT (only 2D) costs rm 1,500+

AutoCAD full version (3d capable) = upwards of 10k for one license

now, that explains why professional fee is expensive wink.gif
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 31 2006, 11:30 PM)
just to think the time wasted haggling over reasonable price in this thread, i'd rather waste that time drafting the drawing
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good ones from the mod especially instead of haggling or finding the right price, just do and faster quote something. tongue.gif

well, most freelancers don't operate on original software so their costs are low and margins are very high. And even if they had the revenue, they won't spend it upgrading to original software anyway because it's the pirate culture here that we're living in.

come to think of it, if all freelancers or people running a small studio had original software for 2 computer, i wonder how long it'll take for them to level with their cost. someone's going to be having roti canai or maggi mee every day. tongue.gif

anyway, i'm going to leave it as that.
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post Aug 2 2006, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(etsuko @ Aug 1 2006, 09:48 AM)
good ones from the mod especially instead of haggling or finding the right price, just do and faster quote something. tongue.gif
I quoted him RM60-RM80 per page, roughly need to draw 10 pages.
Estimated time to complete = 1 week.

Just started drawing.. i can say its not as easy as i thought after i came over the who chassic... The base of chassics (not shonw in picture posted) is quite hard t0 draw sweat.gif

Edited : Holy sheeeeat.... i need to go on-site and measure everything by myself sweat.gif

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post Aug 2 2006, 09:59 PM

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all the best to u mate !
everything need a beginning...
so this the beginning of something greater to come for you..

*good luck*
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post Aug 2 2006, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(chilicandy @ Aug 2 2006, 09:59 PM)
all the best to u mate !
everything need a beginning...
so this the beginning of something greater to come for you..

*good luck*
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Thanks mate ! This is my first freelance job...
Hopefully.. mission accomplish before next wednesday sweat.gif
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post Aug 3 2006, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(imisu29 @ Aug 2 2006, 09:50 PM)
I quoted him RM60-RM80 per page, roughly need to draw 10 pages.
Estimated time to complete = 1 week.

Just started drawing.. i can say its not as easy as i thought after i came over the who chassic... The base of chassics (not shonw in picture posted)  is quite hard t0 draw  sweat.gif

Edited : Holy sheeeeat.... i need to go on-site and measure everything by myself  sweat.gif
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Well, at least from this experience you can fill up the gaps in what you forgot to ask a client and next time you'd be better prepared. One of the best lessons is when you learn the hard way, the best ones sometimes is when you fail. smile.gif

Anyway, since it isn't a signed deal where by a price is agreed on, you can quote him RM80 per page and when u see him again, let him know if he'd be willing to pay an extra RM100 or something for on-site (depending how many times and how long u spent there) if he objects, then just say it's okie coz you were asking.

This is why I wished Malaysians paid by the hours. tongue.gif

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post Aug 7 2006, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(etsuko @ Aug 3 2006, 11:04 AM)
Well, at least from this experience you can fill up the gaps in what you forgot to ask a client and next time you'd be better prepared. One of the best lessons is when you learn the hard way, the best ones sometimes is when you fail. smile.gif

Anyway, since it isn't a signed deal where by a price is agreed on, you can quote him RM80 per page and when u see him again, let him know if he'd be willing to pay an extra RM100 or something for on-site (depending how many times and how long u spent there) if he objects, then just say it's okie coz you were asking.

This is why I wished Malaysians paid by the hours. tongue.gif
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You are right my frined notworthy.gif as you said i have learnt my lesson, get well prepared before go biggrin.gif

I am very satisfied with my paid oledi.. as RM80 per page + RM100 transport allowance.
sweat.gif as a freelancer without experience, this can be considered as a very good deal.

Paid by hour, paid by project or paid by workload.. i still got no idea with it.
But as i know those very professional services are paid by hour....

 

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