I'm about to get a Jackson's chameleon soon. Anyone here keeps these unique lizards ? Mind to share some keeping tips?


This post has been edited by funkychips: Jul 29 2006, 10:33 PM

i read somewhere that kasksons dun adapt well in captivuty. max ppl keep is bout 3-4 years only...then KO. wanna start with chemeleons can start with vieled.

How much for the price?

well, seems that i'm not going to keep one after all. there's too much effort and time that I can't spend taking care of them and the set up's not adequate. Maybe in future, I'm able to grab myself a veiled. Now I'm going back to leos and fat tails.

I heard chameleons bite.. and nasty too.... but they are fragile reptiles huh.....

Saw a few times at the jungle beside my house..... until they flattened it and made it into appartments for MMU students.... wasted...

hahha...someone told me adult vieled at thailand onlt rm200

earlier went to ikano , then went to pet safari ....they have lots of chameleon
stock

yes....in thailand the exotic animals are freaking cheap!!!!!!!!

most of them less than half the price of wut it is here in malaysia.
but problem is..after u get one..how u gonna bring it back past the Jabatan Imigresen...??? and do u wanna trouble urself jaga one fragile creature while on holiday?

But theres a way to get past imigration...hehe. Sampan back to Kota Bahru.
hehehe

Chams r real cool...
but fragile and expensive...expensive coz theres high risk or losing it.

actually getting past the border isn't a problem at all...just take a train tru the padang besar border....they don't check shit at that border...i use it all the time...can even bring a kilo of marijuana...if u can hide the smell of course..

eh....Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....

hahha///the marijuana line gonna get u hanged man...lolx.

Nice horn they have, anybody wanna make a trip to Thailand ? We go and buy exotic pets in bulk.

now air asia got cheap flight


ahh.. I wanna go there to see the animals... old people going... how to go see animals la...??? huhuhuhuhu

how lar to seludup chams ?
later put in a bag..then he become stress..later we only bring the dead carcass only..
teach us all how to seludup... using airplane ... hahahaha...

his point is....no one bothers....from thailand if u go with a few friends...u can just share & buy train tickets for a cabin....can temp house in a small guppy tank....

can u tell me exaclty where in thailad ? issit in bangkok or only near the border site of kelantan ?

a market in bangkok, its called catkucah or sumting that sound like that...ask kin onn...he knows...

Yeah, we can make a small trip there. I wanna get some turtles and tortoise there. Anybody ?

the market called chattucak. its a biggie. u can get there using the MRT. take a ride until the end of the line. if u from main entrance, the animals section is at the west end of the market. before reaching to reptiles and others, u will c dogs, cats and some cock fights(no lucah). last time i was there about 5 shops selling reptiles. about 90% animals can b found in KL-if u know where to look. cheaper by about 30-40% depending on how u bargain. if u regular, the trader will auto less for u.

note: no need to go to bangkok for chattucak. in phuket now also have 1. fyi

near hyatyai got or not? hmm....so far...need to take flight...come back by train also bladi far.....when u say lower then malaysia by 30-40% is the pet shop selling price or the cost?

from my knowledge hatyai no chattuchak but i could b wrong.

30%-40% of retail. mayb can get cheaper. price is also determined on the animals locality, import & export and various other factors.

if u go by train, i advice buying CB and hardy species. it's safer method.

if u go by flight please be careful coz unless the trader has arrange sumthin wit the authority, getting pass the airports will not be easy especially when ur panties/underwear/bra/crotch/pockets/bags/pants/shirts is full, rounded, moving about and making various sounds. re-scan will occur if they r suspicious. once 1st img and 2nd img is different in shapes, they will interogate. use lead ie plumbum container coz cant be scanned.

note: im not comfortable discussing about this topic publicly anymore. so i will end my post here. hope that help.

hmmm...thx anyways....do u have MSN so i an learn more? lolx...

hi all... i tot of keeping 1... but very difficult 2 find it la...
may i know wher can i get it??

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Added on July 23, 2008, 6:59 pmthis is cun weh... wanna have 1 soon..

This post has been edited by tee_jay: Jul 23 2008, 06:59 PM

Jackson's I cant find

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A few of mine

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Jul 23 2008, 07:48 PM

your vieled looks abit on the thin side.. or it is just me lol

The tail is still full so he is OK LOL

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How about this one when he is about to go to sleep !!!

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Jul 23 2008, 10:01 PM

Woah man, Sam... how many pets do you have? @_@

HaHaHa

All guy by the name of SAM who live in Sabah have ton of pets !!!!!

BTW most of my pets are all newly bought ie within these few months after I return from Oz !!!!

@_@... rich... hehe... Cool anyway, love your sulcatas. Tell me when you don't want their babies hehe, send them to me in KL haha

Sawat dii khawp...

Funkychips... Uzairi.... Lets we go to Bangkok...

Nice gang you got there, Sam. Mind to share how you house them? What about humidity and such. How do you regulate all this? These are such fascinating lizards, but all the talk about how fragile they are turn me off everytime.

It's always better to talk to someone who has hands on experience!

Not too hard my friend !!

But do get a medium one ( CB will be best) as they waste away quickly ( Small one no margin for error and live feeder harder to source ie pin head crickets )
- A few days of no food will stress them to no return !!
- New enviroment , too much handling before settling down also stress them a lot

Screen mesh type enclosure is best Will post my DIY ( Some PVC pipe , wire mesh and some cable tie ) later when I get a better pic !!

They are not really a hands-on pets where you can pat them at will !!! But after some time in our care they do become quite tame and allow certain degree of handling

Nice. A pic of the cage would be cool. Would also love to learn more on how you regulate humidity.

Thanks!

chameleon are display pet...not meant for handling..
they dont like ppl to handle them...they will change their color quite fast depend on the surrounding..
sam...when u wanna handle ur chameleon..did they open their mouth like wanna bite u?LOL
their coloration are fascinating!
wire mesh cages are good for them...they need good air ventilation.
they would prefer to drink dripping water from leaves...
the cage inside must have greenery...n constant water dripping in order for them to drink. hardly see chameleon drink water from water dish.
n they need misting system in it...so u will have higher humitidy...n basking lamp n uv are very important.

At the begining YES but after a few weeks/months OK just wanna climb away from you if given the chance !!!

THANKS for the tip But you dont need those constant dripping thingy ( the below substrate grow mouldy fast in our already humid climate )

In Western country the drip also act as a humidity increasing device !!!

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Some " open their mouth like wanna bite u?LOL" pic

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Jul 24 2008, 08:46 PM

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2 ' by 2 ' by 6 ' High
My enclosure are outdoor the 2 plants inside ( 1 Pothos 1 Hibiscus ) help with the humidity !!!

Every evening I spray the whole enclosure to water the Chame and the plants !!

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The inside !!

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Added on July 24, 2008, 8:24 pm

The smaller Veiled Chame are housed in those Guppy brand plastic tank ( for now will move outdoor when they are larger )
- Peat moss used as substrate
- A pothos plant inside to climb on and as snack if required

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Jul 24 2008, 08:48 PM

welll sam....for chameleon i dont think u need any substrate for it...
as they dont go on ground...

The substrate is to help keep the whole enclosure " humidity friendly " for our Chame !!!

Man... cool chams... if i may ask. How much is one? Cause i realize the availability in KL is very little

icicic.....
btw what else can we put in the mesh cage to help controling humidity??any new idea???
chameleon not much available as death rate are very high...not much ppl bring in...
n chameleon have more needs compare to geckos or bearded dragon....

Ahh, i see... I saw a few veiled chams going for 450 ringgit at PLC Ikano about 4 months ago. Didn't think it was worth it, a guy passed by and told the keeper it was sick

well most of the cham come are not really healthy...
imagine long flight hour..n yet they are fragile.
if u wanna get a chameleon..
veiled chameleon is the best to start with...make sure u get a CB one and subadult size..
panther chameleon is the 2nd option.
jacksoni is quite tough to keep..n its under cites dno what..
all chameleon need license to keep rite?

Thanks for sharing the setup Sam.

Your solution seems practical considering our climate. If I may ask, what's the longest period you've kept a cham? Or is there anyone you're familiar of keeping these beauties for over 3-4 years?

Noticed that you're using mesh wire for the enclosure. Do they need moderate/good ventilation considering our tropical ambient humidity and temperature?

That pair of Veiled with me since March !!


I know of a guy who has his Male Veiled for about 13 months (still alive ) !!! They get over heated easily as well thus the moderate/good ventilation !!

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Jul 25 2008, 04:58 AM

Woah, reminds me when my water dragon got burnt haha. They get overheated easilly? Sad.... I like vields

not say very easily get overheated...
just as long as u dont put under hot sun...
plenty of plants in the cage...so tht it will feel HOME...

baby Jackson cost rm500

where u saw it???
hmm...interesting...man mayb wanna start rearing chameleon again..LOLx

leslie got pic of ur cham b4?

elek...i got no animal picture with me....
hehhehehehe...

How are you finding keeping your chameleons so far Sam?

So far so good !!

One good news I think one of my Veiled female is gravid !!!

hoh

This post has been edited by polkadotte: Aug 15 2008, 06:16 PM

this is chameleon thread. =.= not rabbit.

I think polkadotte trying to say that the above babies are suitable live food for bigger size Chameleon ie my 50 cm Meller's Chame LOL

haha i got wrong page i guess

How gravid is she now? Any new pics? It'd be really something to see baby chameleons pop locally.

Eggs laid !! 44 of them !! now the long up to 7 months wait for them to pop out ( if they are fertile ) !! If they do decide to pop out around the 7 mths period may come out on April Fool's day ( as eggs deposited either 31th Aug or 1st Sept ) LOL

congrats. 44 of them is alot!!! time to buy toto. haha

Toto ? Try our local Sabah 88

I just won a big price ( first 3 prize) on the 10 th with that company after just 4 buy since eggs laid !! LOL

But have to share with a fren n lots of " shouts" here and there !!!

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Added on September 15, 2008, 2:06 pmFor a first time layer thats a bit but from sources they can lay 70 or more eggs so 44 is in the middle for a clutch !!



This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Sep 15 2008, 02:06 PM

one lucky guy over there. haha. my turn now. haha. 7months is a long wait...but still worth waiting. hehe

Congrats Sam. With your level of experience I'm pretty sure at least 50+% will make it. Keep this thread alive by posting some more pics brother!

Why don't you send me some duit raya using that prize money you just won? Lol!

Just a pic of the nest digging part !!

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FINALLY After 6 months and 1 day wait or 182 days !!

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Struggle since this morning !!
This first born is a bit weak so may not make it !!

But who knows aye !!

Enjoy

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Some of the eggs (container 1) some 6 months ago !!

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Mar 3 2009, 06:48 PM

OMFG SO TINY! shit. this is so cute. .

this is the first one who hatched? hope all make it!

What are you feeding them Samperth?

Pinhead Crickets and Fruitfly !! None WC all cultured !! Will try some baby mealworm soon !!

Oh my... Congrats! After the post like half a year ago and no one responded, now u r back with good news!

Sure hope for more good news. Goodluck!

Holy! That thing is tiny. But it looks awesome though. Congrats by the way.

Ya the very first one !!

So far 24 hatched of 38 healthy remaining eggs ( 6 eggs grew mouldy or infertile thus discard over the pass 6 months )

Maybe 14 more coming soon (fingers crossed)!! LOL

@Samperth
Wooooooo....I thought i will never hear the never ending story of ur chameleon eggs…
Anyway congratulation…keep on posting new news about them…
Hope the lil one could make it though..

Wow! Congrats...I always wanted my own Chameleon..bt after reading,i scared i cant be able to take care as it's v fragile...

So happy for u Samperth..I guess this batch of babies will adapt better than those imported ones huh?

Fragile ?? Not really I only just started keeping them last March and they grew and breed for me in August !!


Should be better as the little one stress more easily than adults thus those imported or seen in our local market are at least so many inches in size , no smaller !!

p/s That Female laid 2 more clutch before dying in Jan 09 !! ( total I have about 100 eggs from her )

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Added on March 4, 2009, 1:01 pmAha , I thought so too But I do have a very good backup to rely on whenever I encounter troubles or problems !! (He started b4 me thus my decision to follow when he stated that they are not too hard to keep )

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Added on March 4, 2009, 1:07 pmYou lurk around here as well ?? I thought you keep gecko only ?? But hey if you are into exotic every sp catches your attention !!

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Mar 9 2009, 07:13 PM

Awesome. Hoping to see updates as they progress and grow.

This thread is too quiet - can stay idle for months So may or may not post updates !!! See how , I may have sold them before they grow up !!!

Can I have one

Hi,
quick question.
Where can i find (thinking of buying) chameleons ?
I live in Shah Alam. However, I appreciate if I can get the list of pet shops near to my home that sells this cute creature. smile.gif
Thanks in advance.

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More babies hatched today !!

The ones before are doing well taking week old crickets OK !! Some (Male) have triple weight gain already !!

Some sold already !! Like hot-cakes !!

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Baby's day out !!

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Baby on my hand for size comparison !! The other pic is of Dad !!

U make ppl so jealous.....Wat a beauty..

Thanks !! But what can I say they are indeed v v nice and unique creature !!

Samperth, the new hatchlings is different sp is it? or it's veiled chameleon? do u hav any plan to sell?

i always like veiled chame n these babies r so cute.... if only i can get one of these

Nope same sp , same clutch just that incubated differently (setting wise) Thus different hatch date !!

Have already started selling many sold already !! (in pairs if can match )

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My v simple setup for them !!

Damp paper towel on bottom , a twig for climbing !!


Enjoy

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Mar 24 2009, 07:03 PM

how can i buy from u sam n how much?

still have ????

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Pic at day 21 or 3 weeks old


This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Apr 11 2009, 01:00 PM

@Samperth,

Ermm I read that chameleon need those netting cage that lets air circulate easily...is it true? Another thing, how do u get them to drink since chameleon usually drink from tapping water..

Ya best that way !! As for drinking , just spray them(the leaves above them be best) a few times a day when young and maybe once a day is enough !! I use Exo terra - explorarium and a few DIY to hold them !!

Wow u should share the pic of ur cage SAMPERTH.. Still it would also be great if u use the Exo Terra Flexarium's must nicer and more room space…BTW, some sensitive issue... If I’m not mistaken chameleon are cited animals right?

Since you mention CITES I rather not show more pic !! As for the flexarium they dont hung as nice and the internal "tubing frame " are a hazard to tails !!!

If bring Animals and hide them inside the Car deep until can't be found by Imigresen cannot meh? I mean if u drive to Thailand?

I really want to get there... Anybody want to order...

Anyone still keeping these ?

First hatch from this year's first clutch - 30 June !!

Bro told you they will hatch in June !!
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BTW Its a Veiled others on the way !!


Enjoy

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Jul 2 2011, 08:51 PM

I have a veiled too, now he only 4 months old . Chameleon is very hard to find in Malaysia , I bought mine at ikano power center , I'll been looking for that about a year and finally I found chameleon is very to take care!!! Btw sam want to let go ?


This post has been edited by hazukirox: Jul 12 2011, 07:15 PM

Just a veiled - I have a few others beside veiled !!

I can and will sell mine (breeders also can ) If you willing to travel to pick up - I DONT and WONT post anything (BTW Chameleon of any size dont do well in little box for posting )

Cheers
SAM

I tot you from msia lol, btw do you use auto mist system ? I'm planing to get one

Yes I am from Malaysia too but the other side of Malaysia - Borneo !!

No , I dont use an auto mist system - dont need it in such humid country of ours (temp. is more important )!!

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I like this sp best !! Big and feisty and big clutch per lay even for young Female !!

Enjoy