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SAMPERTH
post Jul 23 2008, 07:47 PM

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Jackson's I cant find

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A few of mine

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post Jul 23 2008, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(leetplayer @ Jul 23 2008, 10:52 PM)
your vieled looks abit on the thin side.. or it is just me lol tongue.gif
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The tail is still full so he is OK LOL

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How about this one when he is about to go to sleep !!!

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post Jul 23 2008, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(beardiekid @ Jul 23 2008, 11:03 PM)
Woah man, Sam... how many pets do you have? @_@
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HaHaHa

All guy by the name of SAM who live in Sabah have ton of pets !!!!!

BTW most of my pets are all newly bought ie within these few months after I return from Oz !!!!
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post Jul 24 2008, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(rafiqos @ Jul 24 2008, 10:55 AM)
Nice gang you got there, Sam. Mind to share how you house them? What about humidity and such. How do you regulate all this? These are such fascinating lizards, but all the talk about how fragile they are turn me off everytime.

It's always better to talk to someone who has hands on experience!
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Not too hard my friend !!

But do get a medium one ( CB will be best) as they waste away quickly ( Small one no margin for error and live feeder harder to source ie pin head crickets )
- A few days of no food will stress them to no return !!
- New enviroment , too much handling before settling down also stress them a lot

Screen mesh type enclosure is best Will post my DIY ( Some PVC pipe , wire mesh and some cable tie ) later when I get a better pic !!

They are not really a hands-on pets where you can pat them at will !!! But after some time in our care they do become quite tame and allow certain degree of handling

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post Jul 24 2008, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(lessilly @ Jul 24 2008, 07:27 PM)
chameleon are display pet...not meant for handling..
they dont like ppl to handle them...they will change their color quite fast depend on the surrounding..
sam...when u wanna handle ur chameleon..did they open their mouth like wanna bite u?LOLtheir coloration are fascinating!
wire mesh cages are good for them...they need good air ventilation.
they would prefer to drink dripping water from leaves...
the cage inside must have greenery...n constant water dripping in order for them to drink. hardly see chameleon drink water from water dish.
n they need misting system in it...so u will have higher humitidy...n basking lamp n uv are very important.
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At the begining YES but after a few weeks/months OK just wanna climb away from you if given the chance !!!

THANKS for the tip But you dont need those constant dripping thingy ( the below substrate grow mouldy fast in our already humid climate )

In Western country the drip also act as a humidity increasing device !!!

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Some " open their mouth like wanna bite u?LOL" pic

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post Jul 24 2008, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(rafiqos @ Jul 24 2008, 04:26 PM)
Nice. A pic of the cage would be cool. Would also love to learn more on how you regulate humidity.

Thanks!
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2 ' by 2 ' by 6 ' High
My enclosure are outdoor the 2 plants inside ( 1 Pothos 1 Hibiscus ) help with the humidity !!!

Every evening I spray the whole enclosure to water the Chame and the plants !!

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The inside !!


Added on July 24, 2008, 8:24 pm

The smaller Veiled Chame are housed in those Guppy brand plastic tank ( for now will move outdoor when they are larger )
- Peat moss used as substrate
- A pothos plant inside to climb on and as snack if required

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QUOTE(lessilly @ Jul 24 2008, 09:43 PM)
welll sam....for chameleon i dont think u need any substrate for it...
as they dont go on ground...
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The substrate is to help keep the whole enclosure " humidity friendly " for our Chame !!!

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post Jul 25 2008, 04:13 AM

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QUOTE(rafiqos @ Jul 25 2008, 01:36 AM)
Thanks for sharing the setup Sam.

Your solution seems practical considering our climate. If I may ask, what's the longest period you've kept a cham?
That pair of Veiled with me since March !!


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Or is there anyone you're familiar of keeping these beauties for over 3-4 years?
Noticed that you're using mesh wire for the enclosure. Do they need moderate/good ventilation considering our tropical ambient humidity and temperature?
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I know of a guy who has his Male Veiled for about 13 months (still alive ) !!! They get over heated easily as well thus the moderate/good ventilation !!

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post Aug 14 2008, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(rafiqos @ Aug 9 2008, 04:45 AM)
How are you finding keeping your chameleons so far Sam?
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So far so good !!

One good news I think one of my Veiled female is gravid !!!
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post Aug 15 2008, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 15 2008, 07:04 PM)
this is chameleon thread. =.= not rabbit.
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I think polkadotte trying to say that the above babies are suitable live food for bigger size Chameleon ie my 50 cm Meller's Chame LOL
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post Sep 15 2008, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(rafiqos @ Sep 14 2008, 04:39 AM)
How gravid is she now? Any new pics? It'd be really something to see baby chameleons pop locally.
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Eggs laid !! 44 of them !! now the long up to 7 months wait for them to pop out ( if they are fertile ) !! If they do decide to pop out around the 7 mths period may come out on April Fool's day ( as eggs deposited either 31th Aug or 1st Sept ) LOL


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post Sep 15 2008, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(valjean @ Sep 15 2008, 02:50 PM)
congrats. 44 of them is alot!!! time to buy toto. haha
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Toto ? Try our local Sabah 88

I just won a big price ( first 3 prize) on the 10 th with that company after just 4 buy since eggs laid !! LOL

But have to share with a fren n lots of " shouts" here and there !!!


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QUOTE(valjean @ Sep 15 2008, 02:50 PM)
congrats. 44 of them is alot!!! time to buy toto. haha
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For a first time layer thats a bit but from sources they can lay 70 or more eggs so 44 is in the middle for a clutch !!



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post Sep 29 2008, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Sep 15 2008, 02:38 PM)
Eggs laid !! 44 of them !! now the long up to 7 months wait for them to pop out ( if they are fertile ) !! If they do decide to pop out around the 7 mths period may come out on April Fool's day ( as eggs deposited either 31th Aug or 1st Sept )  LOL
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Just a pic of the nest digging part !!

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post Mar 2 2009, 09:06 PM

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FINALLY After 6 months and 1 day wait or 182 days !!

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Struggle since this morning !!
This first born is a bit weak so may not make it !!

But who knows aye !!

Enjoy

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Some of the eggs (container 1) some 6 months ago !!

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post Mar 4 2009, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(rafiqos @ Mar 4 2009, 11:07 AM)
What are you feeding them Samperth?
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Pinhead Crickets and Fruitfly !! None WC all cultured !! Will try some baby mealworm soon !!
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post Mar 4 2009, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(cottonkandy @ Mar 3 2009, 07:29 PM)
OMFG SO TINY! shit. this is so cute. tongue.gif.

this is the first one who hatched? hope all make it! thumbup.gif
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Ya the very first one !!

So far 24 hatched of 38 healthy remaining eggs ( 6 eggs grew mouldy or infertile thus discard over the pass 6 months )

Maybe 14 more coming soon (fingers crossed)!! LOL



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post Mar 4 2009, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(Cherlyn @ Mar 4 2009, 01:35 PM)
Wow! Congrats...I always wanted my own Chameleon..bt after reading,i scared i cant be able to take care as it's v fragile...

So happy for u Samperth..I guess this batch of babies will adapt better than those imported ones huh? smile.gif
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Fragile ?? Not really I only just started keeping them last March and they grew and breed for me in August !!


Should be better as the little one stress more easily than adults thus those imported or seen in our local market are at least so many inches in size , no smaller !!

p/s That Female laid 2 more clutch before dying in Jan 09 !! ( total I have about 100 eggs from her )


Added on March 4, 2009, 1:01 pm
QUOTE(meento @ Mar 4 2009, 01:33 PM)
@Samperth
Wooooooo....I thought i will never hear the never ending story of ur chameleon eggs…
Anyway congratulation…keep on posting new news about them… rclxms.gif
Hope the lil one could make it though..  sad.gif
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Aha , I thought so too But I do have a very good backup to rely on whenever I encounter troubles or problems !! (He started b4 me thus my decision to follow when he stated that they are not too hard to keep )


Added on March 4, 2009, 1:07 pm
QUOTE(Azazel @ Mar 4 2009, 01:19 PM)
Holy! That thing is tiny. But it looks awesome though. Congrats by the way.
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You lurk around here as well ?? I thought you keep gecko only ?? But hey if you are into exotic every sp catches your attention !!

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post Mar 4 2009, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(rafiqos @ Mar 4 2009, 02:07 PM)
Awesome. Hoping to see updates as they progress and grow.
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This thread is too quiet - can stay idle for months So may or may not post updates !!! See how , I may have sold them before they grow up !!!
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post Mar 21 2009, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(rafiqos @ Mar 4 2009, 02:07 PM)
Awesome. Hoping to see updates as they progress and grow.
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More babies hatched today !!

The ones before are doing well taking week old crickets OK !! Some (Male) have triple weight gain already !!

Some sold already !! Like hot-cakes !!
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post Mar 22 2009, 09:09 PM

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Baby's day out !!

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Baby on my hand for size comparison !! The other pic is of Dad !!

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