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post Jul 29 2006, 07:49 PM, updated 20y ago

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Anyone have further their study in UTM Space ? I mean part time study...
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i was one of the lecturers teaching SPACE.

anything i can help u with?
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i was one of the lecturers teaching SPACE.

anything i can help u with?
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are utm space degree approved in industrial work or govt institution?
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i was one of the lecturers teaching SPACE.

anything i can help u with?
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how about the study??and admission requirement?are polytechnic student accepted there? icon_question.gif
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Requirement = have money to pay. and everyone is accepeted. As long as you pay. The diploma is the same as the ones that is offered in Arus Perdana

*P/S* I just finished my space class and is using the PC in UTM's Library.
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Requirement = have money to pay. and everyone is accepeted. As long as you pay. The diploma is the same as the ones that is offered in Arus Perdana

*P/S* I just finished my space class and is using the PC in UTM's Library.
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what course r u taking?arus perdana?
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I'm taking DDC Computer Science Diploma. Currently has 4 Math papers backlogged and as I was offered a job, I quit Arus Perdana and joined SPACE instead
and Arus Perdana are the full time students of UTM
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I'm taking DDC Computer Science Diploma. Currently has 4 Math papers backlogged and as I was offered a job, I quit Arus Perdana and joined SPACE instead
and Arus Perdana are the full time students of UTM
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where izzit arus perdana?utm semarak? 4 math paper backlogged?what izzit?
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SPACE? Angkasa Lepas?
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SPACE: school of professional and continued excellence
layman: UTM's part-time education school.

arus perdana: full-time student

utm is currently the only IPTA that caters both full-time and part-time education using integrated syllabus, but managed by an independent body (SPACE). the lecturers, syllabus, content are the same with the full-time course, the only difference is they'll spend more time compared to the fulltimers.

fees varies between RM150 to RM350 per credit hour per semester, with 8 credit hours max per sem. that would mean, u will pay a max of RM 2800 per sem.

there are two levels of education under SPACE programme: diploma and degree. most courses are accredited, there are still several newly added courses that hasnt been accredited, but are still recognized by LAN. which means u r certified to work in related fields, both industry and government.

what linkinstreet means is that, he was doing fulltime diploma, when he was offered a job. instead of finishing his diploma, he took the job and converted his remaining education into SPACE. this way, he can still work and at the same time study to finish his diploma, which is the 4 math subjects.



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Oh darn, that SPACE, I thought woah we have someone in LYN capable of lecturing stuff about space i.e angkasa lepas? ...
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jul 29 2006, 11:25 PM)
SPACE: school of professional and continued excellence
layman: UTM's part-time education school.

arus perdana: full-time student

utm is currently the only IPTA that caters both full-time and part-time education using integrated syllabus, but managed by an independent body (SPACE). the lecturers, syllabus, content are the same with the full-time course, the only difference is they'll spend more time compared to the fulltimers.

fees varies between RM150 to RM350 per credit hour per semester, with 8 credit hours max per sem. that would mean, u will pay a max of RM 2800 per sem.

there are two levels of education under SPACE programme: diploma and degree. most courses are accredited, there are still several newly added courses that hasnt been accredited, but are still recognized by LAN. which means u r certified to work in related fields, both industry and government.

what linkinstreet means is that, he was doing fulltime diploma, when he was offered a job. instead of finishing his diploma, he took the job and converted his remaining education into SPACE. this way, he can still work and at the same time study to finish his diploma, which is the 4 math subjects.
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how long does it take to finish degree ? wow...the fees are depend on subject?
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about 5-6 years. there is a big advantage for students taking SPACE. let's assume u'll be working in related field (for example, working in a civil engineering firm). u start at 2005, and the fulltime course takes 4 years (graduate 2009).

assuming u'll graduate in 8 years (worst case scenario), four years later than the fulltime students. however, u will graduate in 2013 with 8 years related working experience compared to fulltimers that only has 4 years related experience.

ofcourse, the level of expertise might differ, but then again, u're already a senior of 8 years in the office, and everybody knows u.



fees depend on the credit hours. each subject has between 2-6 credit hours (depending on weightage).
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post Jul 30 2006, 08:20 AM

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about 5-6 years. there is a big advantage for students taking SPACE. let's assume u'll be working in related field (for example, working in a civil engineering firm). u start at 2005, and the fulltime course takes 4 years (graduate 2009).

assuming u'll graduate in 8 years (worst case scenario), four years later than the fulltime students. however, u will graduate in 2013 with 8 years related working experience compared to fulltimers that only has 4 years related experience.

ofcourse, the level of expertise might differ, but then again, u're already a senior of 8 years in the office, and everybody knows u.
fees depend on the credit hours. each subject has between 2-6 credit hours (depending on weightage).
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weightage: how heavy/crucial/important a particular subject is for that particular course.

for example, design is so essential to architecture, each subject is between 6-8 credits.

look at it this way:

u have a main dish, and because it is THE main dish, it costs more. then u have the appetizer and the dessert, a relatively smaller dish and cheaper dish.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jul 30 2006, 08:40 AM)
weightage: how heavy/crucial/important a particular subject is for that particular course.

for example, design is so essential to architecture, each subject is between 6-8 credits.

look at it this way:

u have a main dish, and because it is THE main dish, it costs more. then u have the appetizer and the dessert, a relatively smaller dish and cheaper dish.
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wow... where is the intake gonna be?
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google "space utm".
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post Jul 30 2006, 09:33 AM

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wow..part time can be more costlier...
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u're supposed to be working while studying. RM3000 per semester is just about RM500 a month. SPACE also allow u to take a break/extend ur studies anytime u want with no time limit. for example, if u suddenly wanna take a break for a year (having first child for example), u can do so, and just continue where u left off after a year.

ofcourse that would mean u have to add another year. but having no time limit is one of the main attraction of SPACE. be aware that all courses in any university has a maximum time limit.
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what is the working oppurtunity in malaysia, as a space engineer?
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post Jul 31 2006, 04:21 AM

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are u talking about aerospace engineer or an engineering graduate from s.p.a.c.e?
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i mean engineering graduates from s.p.a.c.e and their oppurtunity work as s.p.a.c.e engineer... smile.gif
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more or less the same working opportunities as any UTM graduates.

s.p.a.c.e dont need no engineers.
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QUOTE(forrest @ Jul 30 2006, 10:34 PM)
what is the working oppurtunity in malaysia, as a space engineer?
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Anyways, SPACE final papers tend to be more easier than the full time courses ones from what I heard, another reason why I joined it.
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jul 31 2006, 08:43 AM)
I Lol'ed
Anyways, SPACE final papers tend to be more easier than the full time courses ones from what I heard, another reason why I joined it.
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oooh... that's what they say when they wanted u off the perdana. laugh.gif

it's actually the same. but they tend to be more lenient in marking, especially on essays.
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hahaha, I hated when my PA goes "Muka KO LAGI!"
anyways, Space usually has less students than Arus perdana, so lecturers tend to be more open as the students are also more mature

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How about postgraduate programme ? If I have 2 years working experience regardless of my degree result, does UTM accept my application ?

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now this is quite off topic, coz UTM s.p.a.c.e does not offer any postgraduate programme.

but just to answer that question:

only if u fulfill the minimum requirement of 3.00 CGPA. with 3.00, u dont need to have any working experience. but if u score lower than 3.00, u might need a little more than just 2 years working experience. it will also depends on what specialization u're going to master in.
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now this is quite off topic, coz UTM s.p.a.c.e does not offer any postgraduate programme.

but just to answer that question:

only if u fulfill the minimum requirement of 3.00 CGPA. with 3.00, u dont need to have any working experience. but if u score lower than 3.00, u might need a little more than just 2 years working experience. it will also depends on what specialization u're going to master in.
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can polytechnic student apply for undergraduate program? how about the exemption subject? rm3000? wow...a bit pricier than full time course...
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yes ofcourse it's a little pricier. it's a part time course catered for those who're already working, and UTM is paying it's fulltime lecturers extra money to work during weekends. so that money has to come from somewhere biggrin.gif. well, it's not about the money really. u should see SPACE as a swasta school that is run by UTM.

yes, a poly student can apply for undergraduate (degree or diploma) programme. u'll be given exemptions depending on ur certificate/diploma and what u achieved when graduating from poly. it varies from person to person, so u'd have to check when u apply. sorry cant help u with the details on this.
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wah...hmm..................
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senang kena tendang ke space ni?
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the whole UTM = universiti tendang menendang to me is absolute bollocks. UTM has less number of drop out than some universities, so i believe it's just to fulfill the acronym, just as people say UPM = universiti penuh manusia and UiTM = universiti ini tolong melayu etc.

as far as SPACE is concerned, it is basically impossible for u to get kicked out. u can drop urself out, but UTM have no obligation to kick u out. here's why:

UTM's SPACE is a part time programme that has no time limit whatsoever. i had one student who've been in the programme almost 10 years and have yet to graduate. u can repeat subjects as many times u want as long as u pay the fees. we understand that working students sometimes couldnt spare time for studies, especially married women.

sometimes a student just "cuti" for a year and continue back where they left off. this is something that fulltime students do not have the privelege of. bottom line is, it's IMPOSSIBLE to get kicked out of SPACE even if u have disciplinary problems.
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Can we refer to lecturer if we have problem understanding any subject if we in SPACE cource?
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QUOTE(numlock @ Aug 19 2006, 07:21 PM)
Can we refer to lecturer if we have problem understanding any subject if we in SPACE cource?
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yes obviously. a huge percentage of the money u pay for the fees goes directly into the lecturer's pockets. they have the obligation to attend to ur needs (some said even more than they'd give to fulltime students).

look at it this way. u're still a student of UTM. period.
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yes obviously. a huge percentage of the money u pay for the fees goes directly into the lecturer's pockets. they have the obligation to attend to ur needs (some said even more than they'd give to fulltime students).

look at it this way. u're still a student of UTM. period.
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not yet...but im ex-polytechnic student who used to be curious about UTM course..since the polytechnic study method different from university.

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i meant:

regardless of SPACE or fulltime, u're still a UTM student. lecturers are obligated to attend to ur needs.

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Aug 20 2006, 10:14 AM)
i meant:

regardless of SPACE or fulltime, u're still a UTM student. lecturers are obligated to attend to ur needs.
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the lecturers tend to remember you better as you spend longer time with them, thus, you can have a better relationship and easier to ask for help with anything, and I mean anything
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*currently in Makmal Linux 2 taking Software Engineering*

the lecturers tend to remember you better as you spend longer time with them, thus, you can have a better relationship and easier to ask for help with anything, and I mean anything
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you r SPACE student?
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Im planning of taking the bachelor in comp. sc programme at s.p.a.c.e.hv a diploma in comp. science. is it possible and easy to get credit transfer? wat bout the quality of education there...a bit hesitate coz heard some people said it's a bit lousy. and another thing...is it possible to complete it in 4yrs or less?

what are other college/U that offer this course for part time..wth fees <30000.i know oum does offer degree in IT...bt i want to specialize in comp. science,moreover..most of the modules are taught in malay.any suggestions from you guys?

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QUOTE(XNANX @ Oct 6 2006, 03:26 PM)
Im planning of taking the bachelor in comp. sc programme at s.p.a.c.e.hv a diploma in comp. science. is it possible and easy to get credit transfer? wat bout the quality of education there...a bit hesitate coz heard some people said it's a bit lousy. and another thing...is it possible to complete it in 4yrs or less?

what are other college/U that offer this course for part time..wth fees <30000.i know oum does offer degree in IT...bt i want to specialize in comp. science,moreover..most of the modules are taught in malay.any suggestions from you guys?
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where did u graduate from? credit tranfers are arranged by application basis. it is possible to transfer credits, but u will have to arrange about it BEFORE u actually apply. SPACE UTM might need to contact ur awarding school to verify the syllabus and all.

i'm not sure about SPACE's comp_sci, but SPACE is a different type of education compared to fulltime. in SPACE, u're expected to be independent, work on ur own, self driven/motivated, and capable to move forward with less or no supervision from the lecturers. most complaints of SPACE being lousy is becoz people expects to be pampered and tutored just like in fulltime course.

so bear in mind, SPACE is adult education. the sooner u accept that, the sooner u can make progress. unfortunately, some students dont understand this aspect, and blames SPACE biggrin.gif.
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where did u graduate from? credit tranfers are arranged by application basis. it is possible to transfer credits, but u will have to arrange about it BEFORE u actually apply. SPACE UTM might need to contact ur awarding school to verify the syllabus and all.

i'm not sure about SPACE's comp_sci, but SPACE is a different type of education compared to fulltime. in SPACE, u're expected to be independent, work on ur own, self driven/motivated, and capable to move forward with less or no supervision from the lecturers. most complaints of SPACE being lousy is becoz people expects to be pampered and tutored just like in fulltime course.

so bear in mind, SPACE is adult education. the sooner u accept that, the sooner u can make progress. unfortunately, some students dont understand this aspect, and blames SPACE biggrin.gif.
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yup...i agree n understand tht the environment would be different...more independent wth less supervision.bt then,i'd like to know hw's the lecture session...are the lecturers helpful? and let say after graduation....will i get the same degree as the fulltime course...or will it mention SPACE.and another thing,to the employer's point of view...does it matter which university's grad are u when u already hv working experience?i graduate from uitm by the way

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well, UTM SPACE programmes are becoming more well known in the industry because they tailor suite for people who're already working in the field who seeks to better themselves with higher qualifications. in doing so, most of the graduates are degree holders with a substantial amount of expertise/experience in the field their in compared to other fresh graduates. without having to look at other aspects, this alone can be enough for potential employers to pick u above anyone else.

lecture sessions have the exact same content as the conventional full-time programme. the only difference is, it's held part-time, and u only attend classes during the weekends. even so, it wont be everyweek. however, classes tend to take whole day, sometimes 9am to 6pm bcoz they're compressing what the other students learn in a week in just one day. so it tends to be exhaustive.

lecturers consist of the actual lecturers for the fulltime course. if they suck, basically the full-time students are experiencing the same thing as well. doesnt have anything to do with what SPACE does.



graduates from UiTM will have no problem transferring credits. i can say that subjects u scored distinctions (A or A-) will almost automatically be transfered. but then again, it's a case by case basis, so i dont want to get too much ahead of myself.

u can check at SPACE centre in UTM KL or JB, or just give them a call.



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thank you very much for the explanation.will gv them a call later...
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well, UTM SPACE programmes are becoming more well known in the industry because they tailor suite for people who're already working in the field who seeks to better themselves with higher qualifications. in doing so, most of the graduates are degree holders with a substantial amount of expertise/experience in the field their in compared to other fresh graduates. without having to look at other aspects, this alone can be enough for potential employers to pick u above anyone else.

lecture sessions have the exact same content as the conventional full-time programme. the only difference is, it's held part-time, and u only attend classes during the weekends. even so, it wont be everyweek. however, classes tend to take whole day, sometimes 9am to 6pm bcoz they're compressing what the other students learn in a week in just one day. so it tends to be exhaustive.

lecturers consist of the actual lecturers for the fulltime course. if they suck, basically the full-time students are experiencing the same thing as well. doesnt have anything to do with what SPACE does.
graduates from UiTM will have no problem transferring credits. i can say that subjects u scored distinctions (A or A-) will almost automatically be transfered. but then again, it's a case by case basis, so i dont want to get too much ahead of myself.

u can check at SPACE centre in UTM KL or JB, or just give them a call.
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how about Polytechnic subject?are the subject are accepted to be transfered?

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i heard that space student who are offered need to be registered at JB , izzit true?
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Main problem is courses are delivered in BM, not in english, i feel the cert is only worth a little in malaysia and can be total useless in many country or some large cooperation in malaysia.
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QUOTE(numlock @ Nov 10 2006, 11:56 AM)
i heard that space student who are offered need to be registered at JB , izzit true?
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only registration is in JB. it's a one time thing for each semester, due to the SPACE centre is in JB. currently UTMKL is being prepped for massive redevelopment, so they switched off some of the facilities in KL campus.

but if i'm not mistaken, u can do everything online or by phone call, and they're open 7 days a week, so u can come down during weekends, if need be.

QUOTE(narf03 @ Nov 13 2006, 11:51 AM)
Main problem is courses are delivered in BM, not in english, i feel the cert is only worth a little in malaysia and can be total useless in many country or some large cooperation in malaysia.
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well, one thing people must understand is that language is not an issue in SPACE. we're not offering people fresh out of SPM/STPM, but rather people who usually have atleast 7-10 years experience in related field. most of my students are about 30-35 years old (several years older than me). they already have a job, capable of doing whatever that they do, but seeking for better qualification to move up the ladder.

whether they are able to communicate in english or not is entirely dependent on their skills. SPACE degrees assume that its students are already capable in their field. that's why freshies are not encouraged to join SPACE, but rather join the prime (fulltime) programme.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 16 2006, 12:09 PM)
only registration is in JB. it's a one time thing for each semester, due to the SPACE centre is in JB. currently UTMKL is being prepped for massive redevelopment, so they switched off some of the facilities in KL campus.

but if i'm not mistaken, u can do everything online or by phone call, and they're open 7 days a week, so u can come down during weekends, if need be.
well, one thing people must understand is that language is not an issue in SPACE. we're not offering people fresh out of SPM/STPM, but rather people who usually have atleast 7-10 years experience in related field. most of my students are about 30-35 years old (several years older than me). they already have a job, capable of doing whatever that they do, but seeking for better qualification to move up the ladder.

whether they are able to communicate in english or not is entirely dependent on their skills. SPACE degrees assume that its students are already capable in their field. that's why freshies are not encouraged to join SPACE, but rather join the prime (fulltime) programme.
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how about student with 1 or less than 1 year experience? rclxub.gif and i heard the ex-polytechnic student always got stuck in problem with university learning...izzit true azarimy?

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i wouldnt say it's entirely true, but there are some cases like that. however, it's not across the board, so it's not enough to conclude that polytechnic students in general have problems with university learning. simply put, most polytechnic students have problems adapting with open/independent-style learning, compared to spoon-feeding-ish style in school and in polys.

but most poly students who managed to secure a spot in universities are usually the outstanding ones, and majority that i've met did not have any problems at all studying in the university.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 17 2006, 10:45 AM)
i wouldnt say it's entirely true, but there are some cases like that. however, it's not across the board, so it's not enough to conclude that polytechnic students in general have problems with university learning. simply put, most polytechnic students have problems adapting with open/independent-style learning, compared to spoon-feeding-ish style in school and in polys.

but most poly students who managed to secure a spot in universities are usually the outstanding ones, and majority that i've met did not have any problems at all studying in the university.
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im think that im confident to survive in university...im ex-mechatronic..however what course should i apply in SPACE?

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Visit it's site first and look at all the course offered. and then take what you feel is most likely good for you
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NEVER ENROLL IN SPACEUTM. The admin people are rude, the management problematic and you as a student will suffer. Money gone and what you get is poor service. You will regret enrolling there. As per my personal experience amongst many of my other peers.
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hye! anyone here yg amik PROFESSIONAL DIPLOMA IN TECHNOLOGY MANAGEMENT????
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jul 29 2006, 07:56 PM)
i was one of the lecturers teaching SPACE.

anything i can help u with?
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full time diploma, is it compulsory to stay in the hostel ? thank you
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full time diploma, is it compulsory to stay in the hostel ? thank you
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Usually compulsory for 1st year, optional for upper years.

Why?
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Apr 26 2016, 06:50 AM)
Usually compulsory for 1st year, optional for upper years.

Why?
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hi cikgu rclxms.gif

plan to join utmspace program (software engineering), how do i go about the credit transfer?

do i need to apply before register or after register?


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Uitm space. IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!
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Uitm space. IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!
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UTM Space. Hmmm, from personal experience, UTM Space part-time programmes are quite tough on par with fulltime programmes offered by UTM.

Quality wise, I'd say better than most PJJ programmes offered by other IPTAs, barred UKM and UPM of course.
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are there any class at utm space, penang for degree, because i've google it and only found at jb and kl

 

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