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 Monk Discussion V7, RoS:The perfection of Seven Sided Strike

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post Jun 11 2014, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(johnny82 @ Jun 11 2014, 03:27 PM)
ah 30sec cooldown
thats a kill joy

LIGHTNING SET IT IS!!!!!
looks like the inna set can go back to sleep
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monkey set bonus 20% dmg for combat staff + 75 spirit spent create decoy deal 1600% dmg;
inna set hv daibo, with set bonus sweeping wind spirit cost reduce + spirit regen;
skills sweeping wind inner storm regen 4 spirit, Wave of Light cost 75 spirits.
i think all these synch each other very well.
base dmg for 2H daibo is very high so the effective WoL & decoy dmg dealt should be higher as well, just like the old D3V skorn bell build.

so bro, don't look down on your inna set, i think it should be working well when pairing with monkey set for better spirit regen WoL holy build. icon_rolleyes.gif

possible WoL gears which i can think of for monkey & inna set:

monkey set = glove, helm, ammy (max 20% holy)
inna set = daibo, belt, chest
aughild set = shoulder, bracer (max 20% holy)
ring = RORG, SOJ (max 20% holy)
pant & boot can choose either 1 from set blackthrone, cain, asheara, captain crimson, etc..

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post Jun 14 2014, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Jun 14 2014, 05:46 AM)
Any monk tested Sunwuko+inna combo yet?

P/s : my monk just finish her long meditation tongue.gif
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Yes... I tested this set combo.
With my setup, i can clear everything easily up to T4.
However, i can't do well in T5 due to low toughness and no elite dmg reduction gear.

I use cindercoat, law of seph spirits stone, sunwuko glove, shoulder n ammy, inna daibo n belt, rorg n 1 rare ring, captain crimson boot n pant, reaper bracer. Total cdr 46%.

skills blinding flash, air ally, epiphany, WoL explosive light, inner sanctuary, serenity.
passive exalted soul, guardian path, beacon of ytar, OWE.

With this setup, I hv about 700k dps, and i can drop primary attack and perma WoL.
When blinding flash 29% + Inner sanctuary 30%, I saw WoL crit 24m+.

Quite fun too. Pls try it, maybe u can have better result biggrin.gif

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post Jun 16 2014, 11:14 AM

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i'm always referring to this thread to check skill proc co-efficiency:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/11914351645

not sure how true it is, but you guys can check from there and see.

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post Jun 18 2014, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jun 18 2014, 01:05 PM)
6 all res and 5 different secondary res

Minimum AR 6 x 90 = 540AR.

Min secondary Res bonus = 140 x 30% =42 each x 5 = 220 AR

Assuming 5 gears all give 140 secondary res = 140 all res

Total min AR = 900

Plus Paragon AR 250

Total min AR = 1150 AR

I believe should be enough lo
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ya.. also, dont forget that you can always slot in few diamonds to boost AR.

my earlier hope on OWE modification is every single resistant will be converted into AR regardless on what elements it is! too ambitious i know.. laugh.gif

i had switched my lighting resist monk to physical resist recently. this is damn hard and pain because every pcs of gears need to re-farm / re-craft / enchant to the same resistant type.
with the upcoming changes, no worry if we found some useful gear with different resistant, it still can be stacked into AR, so not that bad still. but i think the percentages should be adjusted to higher number like 50% or something.
in long run, we should have flexibility in swapping gears without worry on the resistant type.

For the other change, dex = armor.
it shown that bliz is trying to use the most simple way to resolve the dex class dmg mitigation issue.
imo, the str = armor or int = AR should remain to str and int class only.
and yes, dodge is utterly useless.
However, i found another stat which is quite comparative also - "melee/range/elites attack dmg reduction". wonder why they dont bother to consider it?

example, they can replace dodge and focus dex class in dmg reduction stat.
most dex class have 8,000-10,000 dex number.
they can do something like 0.2% of total dex converted to melee, range & elites dmg reduction. so, monk & DH will have like 16% - 20%.
and i believe other monk's skills highlighted by cow can slowly tune into dmg reduction as well, like DS 29% dodge become 29% dmg reduction; 42.5% crit chc add into dmg reduction and etc..
this is still not that bad imo and every class will still maintain their uniqueness in dmg mitigation. biggrin.gif

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post Jun 24 2014, 01:55 PM

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this is why i seldom touch monk recently biggrin.gif
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post Jun 26 2014, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jun 26 2014, 11:23 AM)
I refuse to be merely a utility class! I want to steamroll everything in party and solo.... mwahahahaha
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hahaha...

this is what my "utility" monk did when joining T5-T6 party doh.gif
1. bring FoA, MUST!
2. drop dps gears, equip with toughness and +% physical & elites gears.
3. choose EP, CS, DS and other spirit regen & passive skills
4. sticky to the team, don't be fool go 1v1
5. DS, CS1, EP1, EP2, EP3, CS2, EP4.... kaaboommmmm !!!
6. seriously, i feel good when my name keep appearing in the message box "XXX has killed Elites" bruce.gif
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post Jun 26 2014, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jun 26 2014, 12:13 PM)
Which in fact..it was killed by 3 other members ..lol

But the new passive looks promising ..20% more damage to stun/frozen/blind mobs..maybe can increase sme much need dps. Also the depth diggers is very welcomed.
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yeah, the new passive is looking good when pairing together with blinding flash +29% increase dmg.
and damn it! i had salvaged many depth diggers.. sweat.gif rclxub.gif
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post Jun 26 2014, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Jun 26 2014, 01:23 PM)
monk forehead only EP and CS thats all ?..how about EPIPHANY with LTK + inner sanctuary (forbidden palace) no anyone mention ?
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not in the current patch bro, because we still far behind other classes no matter how many dps we can squeeze out from gears or skills.
wd 1 big bite from doggy = 60m+
sader 1 shotgun = 60m+ per beam
what do we have? doh.gif

Hence in party game, we need to go with zDps + CS to follow (as we are follower) their path and help in clearing mobs at least.
let see what will happen in the coming patch. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jun 26 2014, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jun 26 2014, 02:11 PM)
i saw one with crit more than 200 million from the dog itself (green skin, i dont know what rune skills). Goreng T6 Ghom in 7 sec.

/FLIPTABLE
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gladfly told me his doggy crit 60m+ when he first got tallman ring.
should have more big number with further turning.
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post Jun 30 2014, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 30 2014, 12:10 PM)
this. f***ing hell i wanna do direct dmg and not support class put ep and wait my 3 other teammates to trigger ep hoping mobs are all in a bunch because i cannot cyclone due to shit toughness.

f*** this class i'll continue wizard tongue.gif
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same feeling.

i joined a random t5 party, and surprisingly the teammates quite like our support monk services - EP+CS.
they: monk is damn OP.
me: blink.gif huh ... u know, monk is struggling on the damage output.
they: no, ur EP killed so fast
me: i just put EP, u guys are killing the mobs actually
they: we focus to kill 1, but ur EP killed the other 100
me: .....

after the game, i got 2 fren request. my mind telling me that they are requesting follower services. sweat.gif doh.gif

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post Jun 30 2014, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jun 24 2014, 12:16 PM)
If that is how monks supposed to be played, whats the difference with the monk and scoundrel (with cannot die token)
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well, in party game, follower is not allow.
so.... monk came-in to take up the role doh.gif
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post Jul 1 2014, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jul 1 2014, 03:38 PM)
why kick EP palm? arent the EP monks doing the party a favor?
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i think they hate ppl ks their kills brows.gif

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post Jul 3 2014, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 2 2014, 10:54 PM)
Finally made it to paragon 600. Will take a break from D3 until they fix monk. See ya all.

Yup, monk all the way.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/cowithg...4/hero/38145172

ps: so happy that my last Rift is with Studio, Goblin and Moba. Thanks guys.
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don't you aiming for paragon 800? brows.gif
not easy for a pure monk to reach paragon 600, i salute! notworthy.gif
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post Jul 3 2014, 04:21 PM

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yeah, please fix the 2hander build as well.
missed the old days TR Bell and hope to see it viable again at higher difficulty level.
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post Jul 8 2014, 11:06 AM

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found another hatred thing when i play sader:

sader's passive have 800+ LPWS + increase by 1% from health globes bonus
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monk's passive 200+ LPSS + 0.4% from health globes bonus

sader's flail have 300+ LPWS
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monk's fist weapon 100+ LPSS

dont tell me monk can DW to have 300+ LPSS, becoz sader can 1 weapon 300LPWS + shield which is more tanky!

WTF is this!!!! WHY!!!!! blizz really taht hate monk!!?? vmad.gif mad.gif
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post Jul 8 2014, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 8 2014, 02:16 PM)
calling out name... ban for sure  brows.gif
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not pointing to other player so shouldnt have issue gua.. laugh.gif
cow can provide some opinion as well.



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post Jul 8 2014, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 8 2014, 11:48 AM)
cause.. Don Vu no like monks...transcendence is a gimmick...we monk are ultimate tankers hence no need so much LPPS..
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be it ultimate tanker or something else, they have to set the right direction & philosophy for monk before tuning/changes on the skills.

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post Jul 10 2014, 11:26 AM

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finally, EP/FoA has been nerf.
well done blizz!! notworthy.gif rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Jul 10 2014, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 10 2014, 02:34 PM)
bro why so happy FoA has been nerf ...?

maybe later have alot ppl will zdps and zero cooldown build ..
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1. i assume blizz will workout something else to compensate the nerf, new build perhaps.
2. i can have more focus on DH & Cru until they fix the broken monk
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post Jul 10 2014, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Jul 10 2014, 03:58 PM)
as a starter, the nerf to EP is needed. There is NO other build in high T that as efficient as EP variance build.

once EP nerf, player got no choice then exploring new builds and setups.

for once blizzard doing the right thing imo (EP nerf)

still, buff la other spenders (LTK, WOL)..y la so kedekut one  sweat.gif
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ya, other skills should be buff to have more viable builds.
the dmg from LTK/WOL just doesn't scale well with higher torment monster's health.
so monk will still be the follower class. thumbup.gif

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