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 Monk Discussion V7, RoS:The perfection of Seven Sided Strike

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cowithgun
post Apr 29 2014, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(NoMoneyNoHoney @ Apr 29 2014, 09:09 PM)
Thank you sir!

By the way, do you have any lightning monk skill build that I may refer to?
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I tried Lightning monk before:

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=67461277

And I tried it again after I get the Eye of the Storm (30% Lightning damage) but I still don't really like it (cause FoT really bad). Just the way I play. I've seen some successful Lightning Monk too, including gladly, StriderJack and qicquser.

Basic skill including:

1. FoT (Some monk chose Deadly Reach)
2. Lashing Tail Kick - Scorpion Sting
3. Sweeping Wind - Cyclone

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post Apr 29 2014, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(olman @ Apr 29 2014, 10:15 PM)
All elemental builds are handicapped compared to fire

not fair as fire gets cindercoat n magefist
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Actually Lightning can match Fire. There are a Thundergod's Vigor Belt 15% and Eye of the Storm Spirit Stone that can pop 30% (compare to max of 20% in Andy) additional Lightning damage and Raiment of Thousand Storms that gives additional 15%.

So, lightning can goes 15+10+15= 40% more than standard setup = cinder coat + magefist.

Sadly, FoT is BROKEN!
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post Apr 30 2014, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(poyol @ Apr 30 2014, 12:24 AM)
I just wanna say, my 300k damage wizard puts out more damage than my 600k damage monk.

Not by numbers, but it "feels" that way...
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sad... many would agree that Monk damage is below average... hopefully bliz will address that..
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post May 1 2014, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(olman @ Apr 30 2014, 10:53 PM)
yes, if u choose scatter blow it will change from physical to lightning dmg.

stacking lightning %dmg items will increase scatter blow's dmg
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if not mistaken, only the 3rd hit is lightning, so only the 3rd hit benefit from additional lighting damage.

QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Apr 30 2014, 10:56 PM)
I love the diversity of monk class. But until it does 20-25M burst damage on normal mob and 30M+ with SoJ on elites which my Crusader does, I can't see myself playing it yet. Not too mention stacking OWE and wasting all that enchantment and gold just to achieve high Res. Not worth it at the moment but as a support class with Buff which is really good to have in party, Monk comes in at no.1. At the moment, monk is in last T6 ghom kill at 33secs. We used to be 1st.. sigh
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sad but true...
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post May 2 2014, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(huoshenfeng124 @ May 2 2014, 10:15 AM)
i look at it... more sad... be sure to read the comment as well
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post May 2 2014, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(sandvillage @ May 2 2014, 10:19 AM)
Rojak Monk
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Valez87...6/hero/27140502

But still farm T3 quite effectively. 5 to 10 mins Rift depend map roll

Can I have some look on LYN clan T6 Monk? Need advice to build my Monk to solo T6 Rift around 10 mins
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T6 Rift solo in 10mins? You teach me! The best I can do is 18min. No Unity, No SoH, No Conduit, No Death. Video posted 2 pages back:


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post May 2 2014, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(sandvillage @ May 2 2014, 10:57 AM)
@Cow

Can share your battletag?

Just asking, not sure if there is any in 10mins lol

What is your HP, Armor and AR in T6?
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Battle tag in first page. Here is link to my profile:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/cowithg...4/hero/38145172

DPS: 1mil
Toughness: 22mil; 2264 Resist, 9.5k armour, 403k HP

I was pretty happy with my monk, until I saw a video in Crusader clearing T6 rift solo in 13mins with just 1 skill. sad.gif With 1mil DPS, 12mil toughness, he spam Blessed Shield that can hit up to 5 targets, crit at 15mil-30mil per hit on each target.
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post May 13 2014, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ May 13 2014, 04:16 PM)
Its nice for fire monks for sure, but if you're looking at doing big burst damage especially WoL, holy is still the way to go. I think holy will be very viable for coming patch.
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the way i see it... Lightning should now be the King in term of damage!

1. Hands of Lightning : Increase the number of hits in the second strike from 7 to 10 and increasing damage to 429% weapon damage as Lightning. (Damage was Physical)

2. Pillar of the Ancients : Summon an ancient pillar that deals 635% weapon damage as Lightning, followed by 785% weapon damage as Lightning over 3 seconds to enemies who remain in the area. (Damage up from 498%, damage was Physical. Additional damage up from 498%. Damage is now over 3 seconds, instead of after 2 seconds)

Pillar of the Ancients is now the biggest Spirit Spender and by far has biggest boost and is now lighting.

I will test my 6-set Raiment of Thousand set after patch. I got 5 out of the 6 gears now. smile.gif

Monk has hope!

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post May 14 2014, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ May 13 2014, 10:57 PM)
I've been playing Pillars all my monk life since 1.08 and I can tell you, without a certain stun or Blind, it's dam hard to use. If you're looking at moving mobs, it's even worst. Back at 1.08, you blind them, they get stun and you spam pillars like crazy because they can't be moving. Pillars have to hit twice for full damage and not too mention the slight knockback. The damage from patch sounds interesting enough but from my experience, it really differs in practice.

But, at least their making changes to monk. What I would really love to see is if they actually do something about OWE. A lot of other classes argue that OWE is a luxury but in practice, they don't understand how hard it is to use owe in RoS. It takes out every chance of getting a good roll on items just to get that single ReS and not too mention playing T5-T6 rift runs, I see all the monks forced to having one mantra which is Healing - Time of Need unless u have full Inna's. I hope they come up with a solution to make monks very viable in terms of damage and defense. Back to trying out the new monk changes. Good thing I've been stacking Lightning since the beginning.
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u gota try the new Pillar of Ancient! It's not like the old one! This one awesome! Much faster and bigger. I actually hate the slow animation of LTK.

(The "ramen" of the Thousand Storms still sucks... damn it.. yes i tested with FoT too)

Sorry, recording from MBA.


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post May 14 2014, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ May 14 2014, 06:25 AM)
Tried it and the new version is nice. Much better then the old. The only problem is... it blocks you and every party member from moving.. HEHE.. this has got to be fixed. I got stuck with a party when i was spamming it..  Everyone died when molten went kaboom!
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ya. after i cast it, i have to move around it to continue hitting the mob...

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ May 14 2014, 07:18 AM)
Renamed from Blinding Light; now freezes enemies (instead of stunning themcry.gif
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Personally, I am a bit sad as well since it now deal Cold Damage and no longer benefit from my Holy gears. Other than that it work just as cool.

I tested WotFH - Hands of Lightning. With all of the hits now lightning, the damage is really awesome. Surpass Fist of Fury.
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post May 14 2014, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(dreaming @ May 14 2014, 10:21 AM)
official patch notes from blizz:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/14138344#monk

many main attacks has been changed to elemental damage.
also look like lighting and cold skills are viable in higher torment level and it might onpar with holy/fire skills. good! biggrin.gif
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I was not expecting too much about class balancing in 2.05... and I guess I am right. Some modest buff in WoL but I tested it last night, our DPS still far behind other class.

Bliz is forcing me to play less D3. Fine. smile.gif
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post May 14 2014, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(dreaming @ May 14 2014, 12:09 PM)
from the beginning, monk is like anak tiri so what to expect more? laugh.gif
also, do accept the fate that monk are build to be the supporting class. They had already stated in the monk's philosophy.
anyways, at least they start doing something good to monk. the new patch have WOL buffed from the meh 400-500%+ to 600%-700%+, and more will come, we should be "grateful" on that. biggrin.gif
by looking at so many physical damage changed to lighting/cold, bliz is not forcing u to play less. you should play hard to farm SOH instead!!!! where and when the hell my SOH will be dropped!!??? laugh.gif
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that paragraph is in every class... they cut and parse... laugh.gif
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post May 15 2014, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ May 15 2014, 02:20 PM)
Yeah it is thanks Kadala! you made my day. Anyway super good news for monks. Quote taken from Grimiku
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Good to have Blue finally acknowledge that monk need help.

More about Monk in its current situation by Druin: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/126...9745?page=6#108

In summary:

1. DPS sucks big time
2. Dex sucks in mitigation - need both OWE and STI in high torment
3. Class set sucks bigger time

I have 5/5 Inna set, 5/6 "ramen" of Thousands Storms... both in stash... using only crafted set now...
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post May 15 2014, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ May 15 2014, 02:27 PM)
Monk + Wizard + Crusader + Witchdoctor = Very sexy.
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Correction:

Wizard (pew pew pew) + Crusader (shot shot shot) + Witchdoctor (soul harvest / 15xFetish with 40mil dmg each) + Monk (Follower) = Very sexy.

Patch 2.0.5 has a new Follower: Monk.

Awesome.

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post May 15 2014, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ May 15 2014, 04:26 PM)
i still love the monk. i dont care how bad he is, the path of bitterness is what a monk can go through! not some easy peasy ballless shooting from afar, or mindless pumping of body mass to tank monsters...our mind and body is one. we channel our will to our fists and still survives! Ytar has show you the way, it is up to you to take the easy way out or not. If you should fail, your technique is flawed!
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we love the monk. that is why we need Bliz to fix this. it easy to just ignore the problem. its easy to jump into another class. but the right thing to do for any player that like the monk mechanic is to help voice this out, to the community and to blizzard. may not be the easy thing to do, but i believe its the right thing to do.

my monk is paragon 526... and still levelling. day 1 15 May 2012. I started monk. My level 6 Monk back then, when I first unlocked the Thunderclap. It felt so powerful.



QUOTE(dreaming @ May 15 2014, 04:27 PM)
haha .. true, just like the game with ur kiwi crusader fren.
screen full of blessing shield flying around and i just walk here walk there collect golds & items biggrin.gif
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how do you like your DH now? thumbup.gif
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post May 15 2014, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ May 15 2014, 06:41 PM)
nah i'm just talking cock man. i dont really play other class so dont really care. haha...
but if they do buff the monk, good thing! hehe..maybe make OWE to be adding armor AND AR.
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we love monk. *fist bump*

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post May 16 2014, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(jaychow @ May 16 2014, 11:55 AM)
thumbup.gif Find in strange my crusader buddy in full tanky armor but throw sheilds from behind like a wussy wizard while I tank mobs in their face, go figure  hmm.gif
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It may look funny but hate to break it to you, that green kiwi shield does more damage than you bell / LTK. doh.gif It cost nothing 0 wrath (Gyrfalcon’s Foote) and attacks up to 5 targets (Jekangbord).

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post May 16 2014, 12:26 PM

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Something for your guys to ponder...

http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/...lo-3-devs-wear/

Summary - Here is what those developers are using:

1. Crusader (Also known as Captain America build)
- Gyrfalcon’s Foote - Legendary Flail, Removes the resource cost of Blessed Shield.
- Jekangbord - Legendary Crusader Shield. “Blessed Shield ricochets to 5 additional enemies.)

2. Barbarian
- Might of the Earth item set:
o Two items: Reduce the cooldown of Earthquake by 2 seconds every time it kills an enemy.
o Four items: Cause an Earthquake when you land after using Leap.
- Lut Socks - More Leap

3. Demon Hunter - Krindershot

4. Witch Doctor - Jade Harvester
- They can 1-shot T6 Champion

5. Wizard - 2 set bonus - Tal Rasha + Firebird

I play with friends that using most of these builds, they melt stuff like crazy. Tons of fun.

What did developers use for Monk?

Nothing. No developers were playing Monk in that session. Go figure. hmm.gif

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post May 16 2014, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ May 16 2014, 12:31 PM)
blizz need to do something with our Set bonus and Weapon bonus like jawbreaker.. Other classes have all these but Monk?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

untill there's a major changes to monk.. i shall rest her/him in piece.. Sad liaw..
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That was in 4th March, before RoS launch. Developers already KNEW and USING these OP builds.

I only started to come across these lately during game play with friends. (Slow poke me).

Now these builds are damn popular.

ps: ya, wizard using Mirrorball...

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post May 16 2014, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 16 2014, 03:05 PM)
IMO, 2 things have "broken" in monk.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

2) Give macai to monk (i.e. buff mystic ally).
Blizz needs to fix the toughness of monk first. IMO, this is very important.
Without this, doing T6 could be a difficult task for monk.
This is especially monk could be the one and only melee char in RoS now (barb can do WT/Seismic slam with macai doing melee or just keep leaping). 
Then, Blizz needs to fix either skills or gears for monk.
Last but not least, I won't say monk is totally "broken".
One must remember, not all char can do T6.
Monk can do T4/T5 just fine. Just like most of the chars are doing now.
To do T6, you need specific gears. This applies to all chars as this is gear based game.
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Those OP build need specific gear but there is NO specific gear for monk that allow us to do that.

QUOTE(huoshenfeng124 @ May 16 2014, 03:25 PM)
saw a guys posted in this forums http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/12674900079 and one of the guys says he can do T6 see his profile http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Nicotho...350/hero/859091 gila gila geared very high toughness too  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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+759 Lightning resist is high? I have +1536 Poison resist. Problem is, I must stack all single resist AND STI to be able to do T6. Two of my passive skill.

QUOTE(olman @ May 16 2014, 03:45 PM)
Max is 6 targets
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Thanks for the correction. sweat.gif

QUOTE(yuhhaur @ May 16 2014, 05:31 PM)
icon_question.gif Macai??
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Barb has Ancients to help them. The Ancients themselves do more damage than monk.

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