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post Apr 20 2014, 11:17 PM

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Ok now that we officially 'book' a spot for next years CL. I'm sure we will look into greeting players in for better reinforcements. With added games midweek, it's gonna tax us. We are fortunate that we were overexposed by our lack of depth via the fringe players. I don't think our forwards (if they all stay fit & injury free) are much of a concern, but most definately are midfielders and defense.

I would like reina to return but I think we have shut the door on him after going thru the weird episode of him with Barcelona's supposedly open vacant slot. I don't blame him but with FSG pushing for tighter player salaries, I don't see reina back in Liverpool anymore. I think agger will remain for another season but I he will figure even lesser games to ensure he is needed for certain crucial euro games.

And there is no silly reasons for good players not joining us with excuses of no CL. Though we might still lose out on players demands (salary) to those London/big(er) city clubs

I think JM' Chelsea will put resources in their next clash with atletico mardrid, it's is the cup of CL that roman desires most. It will take away all pain of not winning domestic league title.

That being said, we will not rest until after the final game with Newcastle
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post Apr 20 2014, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Apr 20 2014, 11:26 PM)
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That boy confidence is super high. Good for him, it augurs well for Liverpool's future. Hope he doesn't go too prima donna and overthink his value. cool2.gif
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post Apr 21 2014, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(Tiffany Hwang @ Apr 21 2014, 11:53 AM)
sometimes i felt that it is good to give up FA and league cup ...

look at chelsea now , champs league + important epl match in a week..matiĀ  doh.gif
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i think manu wants out of europe too next season to concentrate on the whole season. likely big big big overhaul in stored. i think moyes will be dumped for sure.


what we did was a sacrifice & it's probably safe to say it's unique & allowed the change of certain guards and even our younglings were moved up ranks.

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post Apr 21 2014, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 21 2014, 06:55 PM)
Seriously I don't understand Chelsea lack of strike force, its not really a fact after all. They got Torres, Demba Ba, and Eto, three of them is not weak like everyone said. Its Mourinho ownself can't utilise the power of them three. Torres did well in the European level, Ba is one of the leading scorer last season, Eto still have the striker instinct in him. They do have Schurrle who can play striker also.

If compare between Arsenal and Chelsea, I would say Arsenal lack of strike force more. Both Sanogo and Park Chu-young is definitely weaker than the 3 Chelsea striker, Giroud I have no comment, his performance is like roller coaster. Their other choice would be Podolski, which is good.

Liverpool? We played with Sturridge and Aspas(oh my) the early season. And we rely only on 2 strikers the whole season which is Sturridge and Suarez.

But still Mourinho can excel so far in the UCL and challenging the PL, He really is the choosen one, without utilising the three strikers properly, they still can score and standing so high in the league.
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It's pretty much how mourino prefers his team plays. Notice all previous teams under mourino. He like attacking midfielders. He prefers the strikers to be the harasser at the box.
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post Apr 21 2014, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Apr 21 2014, 08:49 PM)
Definitely true but there were 2 exceptions, Diego Milito and Benni McCarthy. But Jose didn't exactly stay for long at both those clubs so the sample size is only one season which makes you wonder if they could replicate it in subsequent seasons.

Just have a look at Drogba, only for ONE season had he managed a decent goal return of 33 goals in all competitions under Jose. He was mostly used as a battering ram to bring others into play instead of as a scoring outlet.

Even Eto'o under Jose at Inter only managed a total of 16 in all competitions. Now 4 years on he has managed an even better goal per game return than from his time at Inter so statistically he still is the same if not a better player that won Jose his 2nd CL title.

The only striker who had a pretty good scoring rate for more than a season under Jose was Benzema. But I would prefer to discount his inclusion in this discussion because that Madrid team had some other worldly talents namely Ronaldo who demands so much attention it makes life so much easier for others playing alongside him. It is also important to note that Jose preferred Benzema over Higuain who had a better goal return because of his ability to link up with the midfield to bring Ronaldo into play as the main scoring outlet.

My conclusion is Jose has never really fancied out and out goalscorers and instead preferred his strikers to play a more support role with goals coming from midfield therefore us seeing Hazard scoring more than ever this season.
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Which is why the current Real Madrid team with the best twin attacking midfielders via ronaldo & bale is something mourino salivate to have. Too bad the Real Madridfc felt they weren't able to prolong their working relationship with him.

He has that charisma of a good manager but at times his own stubbornness to adapt to players strength is his own achilles heel.
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post Apr 21 2014, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(terryfu @ Apr 21 2014, 10:43 PM)
On this note, I disagree. As I mentioned before I would like to see Paisley's record of 3 Euro cups unmatched (except by a Reds mgr) though chances are it will happen soon since so many managers now currently have won 2 (you'll see me supporting Diego Simone since his the only SF without an Euro cup as a mgr, the rest won 2 each).

Secondly, and admittedly I'm bias against Chelsea since Roman / Mourinho period. If it was any other mgr or team (except MU), I would have support them but don't know why Blues get on my nerves (didn't have that during the Gullit / Zola / Vialli days). I seriously respect Mou (and not just his tactics / man mgmt. but also his penchant to help the less fortunate), but I just can't bring myself to wanting to support him to win (unless its to Reds advantage).

That said may the best team win the UCL and I'm looking to see an AM / BM final smile.gif
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Hahha I see

You know when I mentioned 'Kerry Dixon' to some fans of Chelsea (when they got smitten by roman/mourino bug) they said "who?" rclxub.gif

Myself and some of my friends who support Chelsea prefer the creativity of Chelsea's play during Zola days.


I think many will hope for AM/BM but there are those too who would prefer Chelsea vs RM. More to "write" about the feud between mourino n his previous team sweat.gif
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post Apr 22 2014, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Apr 22 2014, 12:38 PM)
hey he is piss every time thing don't go his way. We are playing at home anyway.

come on Atletico, torture them tongue.gif
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The pressure is there, mourino, pellegrini, wenger were all expected to lead their respective clubs to glory (league title)

Rodgers & Liverpool has surpassed the target expected of a (7th placed in previous season) clinching a CL spot.

Granted we face our own fans and clubs history to recapture the elusive league title after all these years given our surprise pole position with some games to go
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post Apr 22 2014, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(NismoConcept @ Apr 22 2014, 02:59 PM)
Well said, we ain't got no time to focus on what has been done. Let the by gone be by gone.
Our focus is now to trash the toothless Blues... and welcum back Abang Torres
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I doubt Torres will figure (starting 11) in Jose plans the last couple of Chelsea games.

They probably are going gung-ho (for broke) againsts the current leaders of la liga. They want it the CL trophy. Mourino wants it. RA loves another go at it.

Not implying we should be complesant when we meet Chelsea at anfield. We should signal this young Liverpool has come of age.

Already the media is pouring madness adulation. To Raheem Sterlings ability. I hope it doesn't get into his head. He is still young. Hope it won't be another Owen 2.0 rclxub.gif

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post Apr 22 2014, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Apr 22 2014, 05:01 PM)
mu throw money at him he will come la..  laugh.gif

Dunno why all mufags insist other clubs are sad about this news.... nobody cares.

I only pity Moyes.

He was a lonely man in a big club. No one backed him.

Coming from a close-knit club like Everton, must have been hell for him.
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yup sense that a few weeks ago. non of the manu board publicly spoke or said anything even after their win over newcastle.
I sense they are working behind the scene quickly to ensure manu isn't gonna suffer the fate like us 20+ years ago. They were was just waiting for a manu defeat to chop him.

The work for the new manager & challenges ahead probably were already in motion




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post Apr 22 2014, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Apr 22 2014, 06:53 PM)
Also, my boss, said that according to the bookies Liverpool will end up in 2nd place and Jose will be next to get fired. rclxub.gif
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and then Manu appoints jose mourino is it?

suspected he wanted manu seat. (though fergie didn't favour it hence the moyes as manager then)
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post Apr 23 2014, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(tampinmy @ Apr 23 2014, 07:45 AM)
" when you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it ",  "The Alchemist" by Paulo Coelho

Looks like everything is bent to Gerrard lifting the BPL trophy
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Hhaha universe pakat with botak's help the those days to let manu win with invisible penalties tongue.gif

Guess the universe has open her eyes cool2.gif
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post Apr 23 2014, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Apr 23 2014, 09:21 AM)
Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho is ready to make wholesale changes to his starting XI for Sunday's crucial Premier League encounter with Liverpool.
Goalkeeper Petr Cech will not play again this season after suffering a shoulder injury in the first half, with captain John Terry facing a similar fate after limping out in the second period with a foot problem.

Midfield duo Frank Lampard and John Obi Mikel were booked during the match, ruling them out of the second leg in west London next Wednesday.

The Portuguese coach will consult the Chelsea hierarchy before deciding which players to field at Anfield, with his preference to opt for those who will not feature against Atletico next Wednesday due to the proximity of the matches.

"I can't decide by myself," Mourinho said.

"I think that's a decision I have to listen the club. I'm just a piece, I'm just the manager and no more than that.

"I have to listen to the club. I think the fact that the match is on Sunday I think puts the problem not in my hands.

"We represent English football and we are the only English team that is European competition. Spain has four and gave them all the conditions to try to have success.

"I know what I would do, but I'm not the club. I have to speak with the club.

"I would play with the players that are not going to play Wednesday."

http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/9279033/...ainst-Liverpool
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Seems like it translate to something like this?

"Kalau jatuh di anfield, bukan salah saya"


But mourino is a sly fox, granted he is one of the few managers in PL with the will and desire to want to win every game.

Looks like RA's love for euro success may take an upper hand in this situation. Even if it did imply the match with Liverpool for them will be of much lesser importance.

We will treat each game with caution. With a strong mentality and Win remaining 3 games, we win the league title.

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post Apr 23 2014, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Apr 23 2014, 10:54 AM)
I would say there was a rivalry between the two clubs but it was more of Rafa vs Jose than Liv vs Chelsea.

Right now though Rodgers definitely have a better relationship with Jose than Jose with Pellegrini.
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Could be, but no one did give Rodgers a ghost of a chance to lead Liverpool in an genuine assault at the league title.

The pressure isn't the same. Look at the expectations that was on the ex manu manager.

I would imagine it would be a different front that he (Rodgers) will have to face next season
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post Apr 25 2014, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Apr 25 2014, 01:04 PM)
I wont blame them if they want to park a bus tactic. it work for them. result is more important. even Real Madrid did a same tactic against Bayern a few days ago.

for me, the bus tactic is not suitable for us. our defence are not solid.

I think we need a good tactic to break their defence. if we win, we can show to other team that we are the team that can break the park the bus tactic.
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knowing mourino's chelsea. i doubt they will

Mourino has spoken many times against such tactics employed by opponents. It would be highly hypocritical of him if his chelsea (even if team B) does it.

I think their team B has nothing to lose but to go out & enjoy their rare 1st team appearances. (nothing to lose for team B, as chelsea's main goal is the CL)

They will not park the bus as some might predict, I expect an open contest
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post Apr 27 2014, 09:25 PM

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Chelsea is playing a smart game.

They seem to be able to nullify our breakaway players at the moment, clamping down Suarez and sterling
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post Apr 27 2014, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(cyclonez @ Apr 27 2014, 10:30 PM)
Mour and Rodgers are happily chatting
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Mourino says "Whatever you Liverpool does, my team B can nullify you guys"



Every minutes tick away, mourino knows Liverpool will have not much strength and intensity in the second half. That's where Chelsea will come out and do damage.

Hope we can go one up before halftime
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post Apr 27 2014, 09:44 PM

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Ball to hand sad.gif (luckily not hand to ball.

Though some referees would have awarded :/
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post Apr 27 2014, 09:54 PM

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Kcuf
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post Apr 27 2014, 09:56 PM

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We had it coming. Mourino's Chelsea B knew how to play Rodgers Liverpool.

Aside from a gerrards slip, the longer Liverpool can't break down and make head ways, they knew Liverpool will be toothless sad.gif
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post Apr 27 2014, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(lp16 @ Apr 27 2014, 10:58 PM)
Ya. They know we will blitz them in the opening minutes. The longer it stays goalless, the more confidence they will have. Parking bus works for them. Now the onus is on us to try to breach their defense and it won't be easy.
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That's why the so call Chelsea's B were more defensively solid. The analysis by the pundits will explain why.

It's wasn't just the gerrards slip. We've been stifield by mourino's game tactics And he knows it

Time the apprentice (rodgers) shows his mentor he has a trump card to play

Come on Liverpool

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