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post Oct 22 2014, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Oct 22 2014, 11:09 PM)
The idea of rapture was not accurate, isn't it? Us suddenly disappearing and stuff.
Bro had the book before itu also tak betul.
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I don't think anyone will know for sure how exactly it's going to happened.

Just this portion in the Bible explains it like this.


In the Book of Luke

26“ Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. 27 People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.

28“ It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. 29 But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.

30“It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed. 31 On that day no one who is on the housetop, with possessions inside, should go down to get them. Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything. 32 Remember Lot’s wife! 33 Whoever tries to keep their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life will preserve it. 34 I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. 35Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left.” [36]e

37“Where, Lord?” they asked.

He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.”

Then in the book of Thessalonians

16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

The Apostle Paul mentioned our body will be changed into Heavenly bodied which is incorruptible.

In Corinthians 15

50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.”h


Maybe Pehkay has better insight.

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post Oct 22 2014, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Oct 22 2014, 11:20 PM)
ah rapture... 

the idea i support UW message about grace / radical grace cuz malaysia need Jesus more than yesterday.

At least we have time before rapture or else when time is up, no more opportunity for the lost.

unfortunately some people simply annoying him (or me... ) and drain UW strength to minister more...
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Actually we should all be encouraging each other and witnessing for Christ.


Wish those fellas stop what they're doing. whistling.gif

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post Oct 23 2014, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Oct 23 2014, 09:52 AM)
After Hollywood's boycott of Mel Gibson, would you think anyone prominent from Hollywood would dare to make an accurate movie about Jesus?

Even today, there's a "sanhedrin" somewhere to stop those from telling to the masses about the true story of Jesus.
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Well sad to say even the Son of God produced by Mark Burnett.

There's just too much poetic license in there. But still it was a good effort anyway.

I wouldn't say it's deviated.
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post Oct 23 2014, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Oct 23 2014, 10:20 AM)
Passion of Christ is a great production imo. They even use the ancient language like aramic.  thumbup.gif
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I like the scene at the Temple, Jesus looks so Handsome, cool and regal.

but I like that scene bcos for me it's a Huge Bible significance and lesson in my ministry.

It shows the Love and Grace of God which the Church has reverse.
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post Oct 23 2014, 12:31 PM

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Who is your daddy?

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Romans 8:15 (NIV) The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. And by him we cry, "Abba, Father."


If you still think God as God. And if you still think He is waiting to judge you and punish you and you're a Christian, guess what?

You have this slavish fear(cowering fear) about God which is the type of Fear in the Old Testament. You have not receive the Light of the New Testament Grace.

If you're a Christian and you still come to God like a Sinner or as a sinner, confessing your sins all the time, you are blinded to the Gospel of God's grace.

If you still think that we must exhibit this "Fear" and still think God is all about obedience, judgement and punishment, you are still under the bondage of the Old Testament.

No wonder your prayers are never answered. No wonder you always feel there's a distance between you and God. No wonder you are get angry all the time, you get angry thinking that it's "righteously indignant over scripture accuracy, doctrine or whatever False teacher or prophets" All these are symptoms that you've never know who God is. Why? Because that is how it is with the Pharisees, Teachers of the Law, the High Priests.

Despite of their hypocrisy but they're angry when somebody tries to go against Scripture. And they persecute those who does so.


According to Romans 8:15, the Spirit you receive which is the Holy Spirit does not make you fear God. Why? What happened to the fear of God?
Would you like Jesus's definition of what is the fear of God?

In the 40 days temptation of Jesus vs Satan, when Satan tempted Jesus to bow down and worship Him, Jesus answered Him:

“It is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve him only."

But when you look at the foot note of this verse it refers to Deuteronomy 6:13 which is where Jesus was quoting. But in Deuteronomy 6:13 it says NIV: Fear the LORD your God, serve him only and take your oaths in his name.

Jesus defined that fear into Worshiping God. It is no longer that fear where there is dark clouds and thunder at the foot of mount Sinai where even if an animal touches the base of the mountain it will die.


What about God being God? Yes He is God and in the Old Testament God is known by many Names, Jehovah, El Shaddai, Elohim, Adonai, Yahweh, The Great I AM, Almighty God, etc.
but Jesus came to reveal God as the Father in the New Testament and not by any other Names of God. Why?

Because when you see Him as "God" there is a distance. Like He is God almighty in Heaven and you're just a Man/Woman on earth.

But when you see Him as "Abba" or "Daddy" there is intimacy like Father to a Son or Daughter. And this is the divine Truth, That Jesus came to reveal. Many Christians missed this revelation. Either missed it or ignored it because it seem too good to be true. I've never experience it much, so I don't see Him as a Father, more like "God".

That is how little Jewish children address their Father, You'll hear "Abba, Abba" calling their dads in adoration and imagine their father coming and holding them up high, Smiling in Love.
That is how our Heavenly Father is. Do you remember how Jesus touch or embrace children brought to Him?

What about confessing Sins all the time?
Listen carefully.

In Hebrews 9:14 (NIV) - How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God!

If you have eyes to see and ears to hear, understand this verse. It means that God does not want you to be sin conscious all the time but to have a debt free conscious that you have been cleansed ALL THE TIME, 24/7! (eternal)

IF what the first Adam is so powerful, that no matter what good you do, you cannot erase your sins, Don't tell me what the Last Adam did is inferior. I'll say this again.
IF what the first Adam is so powerful, that no matter what good you do, you cannot erase your sins, Don't tell me what the Last Adam did is inferior to what the first Adam did. Don't tell me the blood of Christ is on the same level as the First Adam which is bound by the Old Testament way of cleansing which is temporal forgiveness. Search the Scripture, there is no such thing!

THE BLOOD OF CHRIST IS ETERNAL! It is ONCE AND FOR ALL. That is why the Bible says very clearly, Christ died only once, He is not going to come again and again to be crucified over very single sin you've committed or just committed or will commit. Understand this revelation. The Grace of Christ which is deeper than the deepest ocean.

Jesus the Last Adam is GREATER than the first Adam. Why? Because God exalted Him to be our High Priest in the order of Melchizedek FOREVER! (Hebrews 6:20). What is the role of the High Priest? He is to bring in and offer the sacrificial lamb to God on behalf of the people for their sins. And The word there forever in Hebrews 6:20 means eternal ramification of our Sins! This means our Salvation is Eternal! You cannot undo your own Salvation because you have never earn it by your effort in the first place! When you understand how good, our Heavenly Father is, You will know He is truly Abba! God the Father who loves you.

Instead of confessing your sins all the time, you should be confessing like this:

Abba in Heaven, I thank you for sending your Son Jesus Christ to die at the cross for my sins. though I may have weakness, My eyes are upon what your Son did for me, That I am the Righteousness of God in Christ, I am saved not because of my doing but what Christ did for me.

When you keep confessing like that, it is Faith upon the truth of What Christ did at the cross which is eternal ramification and the Holy Spirit goes into action. He will bring you out of your bondage to sin Faster than you can ever trust in the Law of the 10 commandment could.

What about obedience, judgement and punishment?

Listen.

Christianity is not about don't do this or don't touch that (Law). It's about living in the newness of the Spirit. Against such things there are no laws. (Galatians 5:23) You are no longer under Law! Christ came to set you free and abolished the Law that bounded you. (Romans 8:2 & 1 Corinthians 15:56)

Colossians 2:14 says it like this: Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; (KJV)

Blotting out means removing. Handwritten ordinances here refers to the 10 commandments. How? Because only the 10 commandments are written by the fingers of God. Those who says that the 10 commandments is still in effect for Christians, I say you don't read your Bible that well.

In other words, God himself remove the Law of the OT and nailed it at the cross. Why? Because Christ paid for it and only Christ fulfilled every claims of the Law of God for you! If anyone preaches that as a Christian you are still to be punished for your sins! I say he is not preaching the right Gospel according scripture! If God has removed your sin and the blood of his son is for your chastisement, Nobody has the right to condemn to inflict messages of condemnation on you! It is God who justify, who dare undo What God has justify you with and make light of the punishment of his son who gives you ETERNAL cleansing? This is where the Church has missed it. This is what it means by do not grieve the Holy Spirit! Many people have abused and misusing the phrase do not Grieve the Holy Spirit in judging his brothers and sisters. I say this to your shame!

So dear Friends. How do you see God? Still as God or as your Father in Heaven who loves you?

Try and Address Him as a Father and see the difference in your prayer today. Understand that the Gospel is about the Grace of Christ, revealing the Love of the Father.

God Bless.
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post Oct 23 2014, 12:31 PM

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How Many times must Christ die?

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Hebrews 9:26 (NIV) Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself.
The answer is only Once and the Bible says Once for all.
It can never be repeated.

But what is the effect? Is it temporal ramification like the offerings of Bulls and Goats like in the old testament?
Is it temporal until your next sins? Is it temporal based on your knowledge of sins and is it temporal based on your act of righteousness?

The answer is No. Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world as in the explanation of the words in Hebrews 9:26.

Let us tackle one by one according to scripture.

Does the blood of Christ offers temporal redemption?
Meaning to Say that, it covers only until your next sin?

The Answer is No;

Hebrews 9:12
He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves; but he entered the Most Holy Place once for all by his own blood, thus obtaining eternal redemption.
Eternal means it's always cleansing, 24/7 eternal redemption.

Is it based on our knowledge of sins? Some people say you have to confess every single you've ever committed otherwise you ain't going to Heaven. Sounds familiar in the Christian circle right?
Search the scripture, you will find no such statement in the Bible. What does the Bible says?

Ephesians 1:7-10
In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace that he lavished on us. With all wisdom and understanding, he made known to us the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ, to be put into effect when the times reach their fulfillment--to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ.

Look and see and understand it is not according to your knowledge but according to God's Rich GRACE, God's Wisdom and understanding and God's GOOD pleasure. All according to God not of you. Why? Because God the father knows, if it's according to you, it's not secure but if it's according to God's wisdom and understand IT IS ETERNAL security! Hallelujah!

When Jesus died at the cross, He echoed this truth statement. Watch this now, this is going to be powerful and a blessing and GREAT revelation for you.

He says this:"Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." Jesus put ALL OF US under the redemption of sins of ignorance. I say this again. Jesus put ALL OF US under the redemption of sins of ignorance. Under the old covenant Law, anyone who sins in ignorant, the Priest shall make atonement before God on behalf of the sinner. The sinner have lay his hand on the head of the unblemished sacrifice and when the sacrifice is consumed in the fire, the divine exchange take place. The unblemished or purity of the sacrifice goes to the sinner, the sin of the sinner goes into the sacrifice. That is the Old Covenant.

Under the New Covenant. Who is our priest? or shall I say who is our High Priest? Who is our Sacrificial Lamb?

The word of the Living God declares:

Hebrews 7:17

“You are a priest forever,
in the order of Melchizedek.”a

Why is this important?

The following verse explains it clearly:

22 Because of this oath, Jesus has become the guarantor of a better covenant.

23 Now there have been many of those priests, since death prevented them from continuing in office; 24 but because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent priesthood. 25Therefore he is able to save completely those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them.

Do you see the word there guarantee? What does guarantee means? Think about it. God himself guaranteeing our Salvation. When the son sets you free you are free indeed! When God guarantees it is unshakable!

And more than that, Because Jesus has permanent priest hood in the order of Mezhizedek, He is able to gives you eternal redemption = eternal Salvation = eternal Security!

All according to scripture! What a revelation!


Is it based on our acts of Righteousness?

No. What does the Bible says?

Romans 5:19 (NIV) says

For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
Who is that One Man? Our Lord Jesus Christ! What is the context? Righteousness!

What is the relevance? Justification for Salvation.

So in conclusion. Is our Salvation Secured? The answer is yes. Why?

Because it is God himself who guarentees it, He provides it according to God's Rich GRACE, God's Wisdom and understanding and God's GOOD pleasure. He is the one who provided the perfect and sinless Sacrificial Lamb (our Lord Jesus). He is the eternal High Priest permanent. Permanent here means permanently able to SAVE!
And according to our Lord's obedience we ARE MADE RIGHTEOUS!

All of and about God nothing about us.

HALLELUJAH!


God Bless.
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post Oct 23 2014, 12:32 PM

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The GIFT of NO CONDEMNATION from Christ

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John 8:11 (NIV) "No one, sir," she said. "Then neither do I condemn you,"Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."



Our Lord Jesus was teaching at the Temple Courts in the book of John 8.
You can say Sunday Service is in session in Church.

And the teachers of the law and the Pharisees rudely brought in a woman caught in adultery. They force her to stand before a crowd.
And Try to Trap Jesus by bringing up THE LAW so that they could crucify both Jesus and the Woman by accusation for Trial.

And mind you, the Law of God is valid, it was written and given by God.


Deuteronomy 22:21 (NIV) - she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you.

I feel this is where most conventional Churches are at today.
They want you to feel condemn or remorseful then repent before God and they use scripture to enforce that you are sinful all the time. They want you to FEEL CONDEMN!

Did you know when Christ Jesus stoop down and wrote on the ground twice with his finger (John 8:6 & John 8:8) [The Stone tablets was given twice, Moses broke it the first time rolleyes.gif ], He was symbolically telling them, IT WAS HE (Jesus) who gave the Law. It is as IF Jesus was hinting; YOU PRESUME TO TELL ME ABOUT THE LAW? I AM THE ONE WHO GAVE YOU THE LAW.

And Jesus said "Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her". One by one they all left, unable to throw that stone. Did you know on that DAY.

IF the Pharisees and Teachers, COULD, they WOULD HAVE thrown the stones on that fateful day, YET they could Not. Who do you think on that day qualify to throw the Stone? Answer is Jesus Christ. Why? Because He is the one who is without Sin. Our Lord Jesus could have thrown the Stone BUT WOULD NOT! This is our God, dear Friends! HE WOULD NOT!

That defeats the idea that God is a angry God and wants you dead in hell. Think about it, in this portion of scripture.

The Church WANTS you to feel condemn and remorseful before repenting but Jesus gave that woman the GIFT OF NO CONDEMNATION FIRST before asking her to repent.

He said in verse 10: 10 “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” 11“No one, sir,” she said. “Then neither do I condemn you,Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

God wants you to know, He Loves you and is NOT Angry at you. When you come to Him He will NEVER Condemn you. SOME people might and they do! But Ignore them Dear Friends, They know nothing about scripture, only Jealousy and Spitefulness towards believers of God because they have been hurt somewhere in their life and NOW they take it out on others.

Hurt Christians Hurt others. Loved Christians Love Others. And Loved Christians are Christians who KNOW they are not condemned and is loved by God (Romans 8:1)

IF you have been far away from God, our Heavenly Father, I invite you to come to Him exactly as you are. It's NEVER too late. Come to Him and receive his Grace of NO CONDEMNATION, Receive His LOVE and I promise you as promised in the scripture, HIS GRACE AND HIS LOVE will empower you to sin no more!

God Bless.

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post Oct 23 2014, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Oct 23 2014, 02:31 PM)
didn't put into a blog like blogspot or wordpress? so can compile your writing and article  biggrin.gif
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Not at the moment.

But all mostly lodge in my heart and mind.

The base of the doctrine is in my heart, I just let God lead me to write in different angles.

Sometime I don't really know what to expect but ideas just come like that.

When it's really easy to write without much hindrances, I know for sure it's the leading from HS.

But sometimes it's so slow, no ideas, I just abandon it totally bcos I don't want it to be from me.


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post Oct 23 2014, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Oct 23 2014, 05:56 PM)
That's why u got nailed sometimes i think doh.gif ... write in different angles, read with different mindset. You write in different angles, people read with different mindset... but of course obedience comes first... GOD's will GOD's bill
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No what I mean is this. My different angle is to remove misconception of what is grossly misunderstood.

A different angle from how traditionally Christians used to think.

Understand that, The word of God is alive & active. They are not dead letters. They can be in RHEMA form. Whatever it is,
My Point is, the word of God bring LIFE to people, not death.


Sometime 1 subject can mean different things to different people.

For example:

Some people understand the Bible and concluded wrongly thinking that God wants a believer to have sin consciousness base on certain verses but they don't understand the Bible must be understood in totality.

Say for example, people will quote,

1 John 1:8-10 I(NIV)

8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.

So based on verse 8 to 10 and just because John's letter is to believers, so they conclude OH it must mean that John wants believers to keep on acknowledging he's sinner. Why? Oh Because it keeps him humble, repentance towards God. (this is man's way of thinking, the realm of the flesh)

But that person forgot, a Believer is a person who believed in Jesus Christ and Whoever Believes Him as a Saviour, The Bible says his sins are washed away. Every Christians knows that. But what does that mean? It means that He has been made Righteous by his Faith! If your sins are removed and you are righteous, How Can that person be a sinner anymore?

Then He will quote 1 John 1:8-10 as the base for this.

But If you Look in the book of Hebrews 6, what does it say in chapter 1?

Hebrews 6:1 says (NIV) - 1 Therefore let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ and be taken forward to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death,a and of faith in God,


Do you see the word there NOT LAYING AGAIN the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death? What does that mean?

It simply means this. Don't keep teaching the foundation of repentance towards sins or dead works or rituals. (many angles).

Hebrews 6:1 is the evidence that God wants us to have a Righteous Mentality instead of being Sin conscious mentality.

I rest my Case. What I teach is consistent with Scripture and scripture cannot be refuted no matter what.


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post Oct 23 2014, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Oct 23 2014, 09:39 PM)
Most of us use 1 John 1:8-10 I(NIV) to humbly ourselves. Let it be known that we should be humble because GOD is King.
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Yes but we need to see how the scripture present the meaning of humbling.

It's more humbling to acknowledge that you are righteous in Christ, why? Because you didn't earn it in the first place.

Here is the reason as explained in Romans 3.

1) Roman 3

21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement,i through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— 26 he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.

27 Where, then, is boasting?

You see? Even the HS mentioned the word there: Where is the boasting?

And in

2) Ephesians 2:8-9

…8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

And lastly in

3) 1 Corinthians 1

28 God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are, 29 so that no one may boast before him. 30 It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. 31Therefore, as it is written: “Let the one who boasts boast in the Lord.”d

So you can see from these 3 examples when you confess you are Righteous in Christ, it is very humbling why again? Because you cannot boast you got it.

In this context it is more accurate.

In John 1:8-10, there's no mentioned of it. Confession of sins, anyone can do it, It can dangerously turn into justification of a type of work. When you're too conscious of that you lose sight of Christ as the one who save you. It can turn into You saving yourself.

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How Does Obedience come?

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Romans 1:5 (NIV) By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:


In the last lesson, we've learned that God wants you to have a Righteous mentality rather than a Sin conscious mentality. I tell you what, when you have a sin conscious mentality all the time, you'll end up sinning, (unconsciously). Why? Because Sin mentality. When you have Righteous mentality you will end up doing right more than sinning. Why? Same concept.

So lets leave behind the elementary of laying again the foundation of repentance to acts of death (sin). Let's move forward to maturity. Maturity is living by the Spirit and knowing you are Righteous in Christ even when you fall. Yes you heard that right, even when you fall you are still Righteous in Christ. I will expound as to why in the next lesson. But today I want to address a topic where everybody wants to hear about.

Obedience to God.

To me this subject is elementary (basic), not maturity but let us address this subject once and for all so that we understand by scripture how obedience come. Then we will move on to maturity subject which is Living and being filled by God's spirit.

Do you know that under the New Covenant, you are to be obedience to Faith? (Romans 1:5)? What is Faith? Faith is Believe. And we need the Right type of Faith. Why? Because Right Believing will produce Right Living (Obedience). Wrong Believe will produce Wrong Living (Disobedience).

How does obedience come? Scripture says in

Romans 12:2 (NIV) - Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will.

Transform for what purpose? Transform for obedience and holiness. Into the Image of Christ. Transformed from your old person into the new creation that God has already marked in your DNA the moment you accept Christ. It's already in you, you just have to apply the right process for it to happen.

It doesn't come through people condemning you or threatening and warning that you MUST repent and obey God. That kind of process will not work. And I guarantee you by scripture it will not.. Anyone who does that to you, I suggest you ignore them totally and turn to what the Bible says in Romans 8:1. I might as well let you know that those who does that is being used by the devil to bound people to condemnation. So IGNORE THEM totally.

So how does it work?

Notice in Romans 12:2 it says there be transform by the renewing of your mind? I'll have you know that Renewing your mind = Change your mind. And Change your mind is Metanoia which is the same word for repentance in the Greek, they are all one and the same.

Next Question to ask is, change your mind about what? That we need to change and repent? NO. That is already an obvious, you don't need to enter into another meaningless loop for contemplation.

What does Scripture say? ( 2 Scripture verse)

1) Romans 2:4 (KJV) - Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

Sorry to use Old English (KJV) but it's the closest interpretation. It Simply means this.
It is the goodness of God that leads us to repentance.
We already know repentance = Change of mind = Renewal of the Mind (Romans 12:2). I repeat once again for those who may missed it:

the Goodness of God leads us to repentance.

So WHAT is the Goodness of God?
Answer: The Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. What is Grace? Receiving God's goodness even though we don't deserve it. And Receive We MUST! Why? because THAT is WHAT that will change us.

2) 2 Corinthians 3:18 (NIV) - And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord's glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

Notice the word Contemplate? It Means Think About! Think about the Lord's Glory. What is the Lord's Glory? Answer = Jesus Christ. What about Jesus Christ?

His Grace, his Love, His Sacrifice at the Cross Saves you, His Gentleness, His mercies, Everything, Every inch, Every Fiber of being about the goodness of God in Christ!
When you contemplate or Give thought (transforms your mind), 2 Corinthians 3:18 Promise you ARE BEING transformed (repented) into the same image of Christ! from Glory to Glory!


But UW, how can you prove that? Good Question. I give you 2 more solid verse then we will close.

Titus 2: 11-12 (NIV) : 11 For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. 12 It teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age

Romans 5:17 (NIV) : For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!



There you have it, The Secret to Obedience.

THAT my friends, is scriptural and accurate about obedience. It is NOT this "people" threatening* you to repent and obey God. Man's way* about this will not work but God's way WILL!


God Bless.



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Why God is able to raise Christ to Life?

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Romans 4:25 (NIV) He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.


What do you think is the context here?
That Christ was raised to Life for our justification.

What justification, you may ask. If you read the preceding words, it says there, He was delivered over to death for our sins.
The context is talking about sin. Jesus was delivered to death because of us.

Don't think for 1 minute it was the Roman soldiers or the Pharisees who put Him there. We are the one who put Him there. It should have been you and I on that cross bearing the punishment for our sins.

But God loves you too much, He was executing a way out for you and I. But you will never understand how much God loves you until you understand how much God the Father Loves Jesus. Nobody in their right mind would crucify their own son or daughter for another person, no matter what. We have never really understood this Deep Love and the Deep Grace of God until we see and understand the cross. That is why Satan and his forces hates the cross like anything.

Back to this verse. And Yet Jesus was raised to Life for our justification. In other words, God the Father is able to raised Jesus from death to Life because of 1 reason. For the justification of our sins. It also means that ALL SINS have been PUT AWAY!

If this is not true, How can a Holy God raise Christ back to Life? Because Jesus is the only begotten Son? No, That He always was. The Bible did not say He was raised to Life and sat the right hand of the Father because He is God's Son. No. The Bible says He was raised to life for the justification of our sins!
It Also means this: If there are still Sins left in the Body of Christ, remain unpunished, God the Father cannot raised him back to Life, It would be unjust for Him to do so and would contradict his Holy Nature.

What does this means for you and I? Only this: All of our sins have been put away. God the Father have been fully appeased of his Holy Law. Jesus met his Holy Requirement completely and that is also why Jesus is able to say "IT IS FINISHED" on the cross.

But UW, what about future sins which may be committed? My Answer to you is Romans 4:25 and Romans 6:10. Christ was delivered over to Death for you only ONE TIME. God the Father see all your future sins and remembers the Cross of what Christ have done for you and I. In there is the justification why He was raised. So that you and I can also be raised to eternal Life.

If our future sins is still valid and is able to bring death back to what we were delivered from, then it also means Romans 4:25 and Romans 6:10 is not true. The word of God does not contradict itself. Scripture cannot be broken over loose interpretation.

The Salvation of God is secured, My dear Friends, Read the Bible for yourself. I leave you with one final verse for comfort.

John 10:28-29 (NLT) - I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them away from me, for my Father has given them to me, and he is more powerful than anyone else. No one can snatch them from the Father's hand.

2 Divine Powerful hands Holding and protecting your Salvation. Tell me, who is more powerful than God and is able to remove your Salvation from the hands of God?

I rest my case, so that you can rest in God and know it in your heart, that this divine Father loves you.

God Bless.

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Oct 25 2014, 11:28 PM)
Thanks a lot Dee
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Count me in.


Matthew 18:19 (NIV) - "Again, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven."
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Oct 26 2014, 09:53 PM)
My bro said that the bracelet I bought comes from a demonic shop. It's those fung shui jewelry thing, I didn't buy the idol carvings. Just normal beads.

But he aid there's an intent for occult (luck ect) so I should break and destroy it.
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How do you feel in the spirit about this?


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post Oct 27 2014, 05:53 PM

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Actually

The Pharisee are quite strict in the interpretation (legalism) and observance of the Mosaic law in both its oral and written form.
They are also obsessed with traditions or man-made rules concerning purity whereas Jesus is more concerned with God’s love;
The Pharisees scorn sinners whereas Jesus seeks them out.
The Pharisees are self-righteous whereas Jesus is more concern about living in the spirit.

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Oct 27 2014, 06:55 PM)
I tend to get scared easily.
But God is stronger. There are no symbols and God made these gems in the first place.
Takkan the Devil is stronger? I believe that prayer is enough to cleanse it.

About my friend, he's doing okayish but his hemoglobin still dropping for some strange reason. They just give him meds to heal all the small interior bruises in his body.
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What I mean is, do you get uneasy about that item? If no feelings, could be just nothing. But if you're in doubt or feel something is not right about it, then either destroy it or throw it away. You have the HS in you, that is how you will know.

Yes God is stronger but you must understand our world is a fallen world and Satanic forces they work on legalism as well.

They will hold on to whatever they can.

Gods word says don't give the devil a foothold, in simple terms, don't give them an inch even for reasons to attack.

But if they do, what you just said about God being the stronger one comes in to apply. If can destroy, destroy lah. If cannot throw it away and pray and declare in Jesus name that You are separated from that item. If you want a sample prayer I can PM you.


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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Oct 27 2014, 06:55 PM)
About my friend, he's doing okayish but his hemoglobin still dropping for some strange reason. They just give him meds to heal all the small interior bruises in his body.
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Glad to hear that, continue praying. nod.gif

Take this as opportunity as what you have learned.

go put your Faith in practise.
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Oct 27 2014, 09:30 PM)
I honestly felt nothing wrong until my bro started saying it's bad....
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Well could be nothing.



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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Oct 27 2014, 09:43 PM)
They're obsidian. Part research, part facination. These volcanic glass form eye-like inclusions. Under a bright light, it looks like a glimpse of a galaxy in space. There are different hues to it too. The bracelet has green and purple inclusions.

They're smaller versions of a similar piece.
No intention of buying it for luck and sorts.
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Nice.

Well if nothing, then probably it's nothing.


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What about God's wrath?

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2 Corinthians 5:17 (NIV)"'Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!.


This morning, I was reading my Bible in Romans chapter 1 talking about God's wrath against the sinfulness of Mankind.
On How the wrath of God is being revealed. And many a times when we talk about God's wrath we are thinking of Brimstone of Fire, Judgement of the Apocalypse how there will be
terrible shaking of the planet like never before.

True. All that will come in the 2nd coming of Christ.

But this wrath, that the Bible speaks of is Man depravity. Because Man rejected the recognition of God, rejecting Him even thought they know it in their Heart of his existence, because of their rejection they were given into depravity of their mind. And thus by that Man is filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. (Romans 1:29-31). In the preceding verse, there lies mentioned of unnatural sex relation between man & man, woman & woman.

All these can be witness today even in this forum, how depraved man & woman has become.

It's a terrible thing to be subjected to a deprave mind. For those who don't know what is the meaning of deprave, in the normal dictionary it is corrupted mind but in the greek translation it is adokimos or Failed/Counterfeit/Rejected mind.

At first glance it may sound as If God is a grumpy old God punishing people with depravity just because people refuse to recognize him. But I want to bring you in further than that. Why this is not as what you think it is.

God did not caused Man to be depraved. We were already depraved by the corruption of sin ever since Adam felled in the garden. We have in us the corruption of the Flesh, even though you're born again. Now there is a difference. We are NOT the corrupted flesh but it's nature still linger in our being. Why? Because we have not been changed into our Glorious body which the Bible speaks of in the twinkling of an eye. An incorruptible body where you can do no wrong because the laws and nature of the old world will be removed.

Having this flesh does not make you sinner either. Why Because the Bible says in 2 Corinthians 5:17 (NIV) - Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here! You must understand this difference. We have the nature of the Flesh but that is not our identity. Our identity is NOW in Christ, therefore you are Righteous in God's eye through your Faith and by his Grace.

If you read the entire Romans 1 from verse to 32. What it basically mean is that, If you don't pursue God, you'll just naturally fall back into the realm of the corrupted Flesh. There is no other law at work. It's either God who brings you life and freedom or the Flesh which is depraved. Either one of. You can say it's like a Tug of war on a rope. And there is only 2 ends. There's no 3rd end.

And some people will just abuse misquote this saying: See? you are under the WRATH of GOD, repent ye SINNERS! and go on babbling about with condemnation.

Dear Friends, I just want to make 1 thing clear. Even though (let say) You are a Christian and you don't pursue God, that doesn't change your status in God. You are still righteous in Christ because of what Jesus did on the cross, your Salvation is given to you as a Gift. What will happen is that you will live a defeated life. When I say defeated, what I mean is this.
You will complain why God is not being fair to you, why he doesn't listen to your prayers, Why Allow the Devil to attack you, Why this particular brother seem so blessed and it seems like you are so UN-Blessed. WHY other brothers can hear from God and you can't. Why this brother can experience miracles and you can't. Why this brother can receive healing and you can't. A lot of WHY WHY WHY.

You will complain throughout your whole life because you don't see any fruit in your life as Jesus has promised. Why? Because you are not being true to who you are in Christ. When God declare you a righteous, don't disagree by living your life like a sinner. It's like you have been made an Apple but you live like an orange or you're Free person but you live like a slave or a refugee running from nothing. Eating a BigMac doesn't make you a BigMac. Don't be who you are not. You are in Christ a New Creation, the Old has GONE and the NEW has Come!

What is spoken about the wrath of God is only true for unbelievers. They subject themselves to the depravity of their mind because there's no other force on Earth that is able to save them. No amount of will power or positive thinking or even physic mind power, can save them. No other gods or deities. No Tertiary education, no matter how smart or how many degrees, masters or phd, no matter how intellectual they are, none of these or anything can save them. They are subjected to the bondage of the power of Satan. In Romans 1:24, where it says Therefore God gave them over......It simply means this from the point view of God: If you don't value my word nor my powers, then I'll leave you to go ahead in your own strength, which is the Corrupted flesh. God is a gentleman, He will never force a person. This is my God and my gospel. A God who is Graceful and of Love.

Dear friends, let us pursue God, his word and his righteousness by faith. When I say pursue, I don't mean ritualistic. I mean REALLY BELIEVE! The Bible says it is the power of God's that bring Salvation to those who believe! (Faith) (Romans 1:16).

God Bless.

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