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post May 2 2014, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ May 2 2014, 08:03 AM)
Hahah ... you put them together? Actually, I have to be more picky on my sentences ...

It is either:

1) divinely adopted through believing + baptism
2) a real organic divine birth having the life of God through believing + baptism
My view biggrin.gif

It is not that adoption is wrong .... IMHO just inadequate.

The Greek word (lit., setting one as a son) occurs five times in the New Testament (Rom. 8:15, 23; 9:4; Gal. 4:5; Eph. 1:5) and has been translated in the majority of English versions as adoption as sons.

I feel this translation is unfortunate because adoption conveys the impression to most English readers that the way one becomes a son of God is through a judicial procedure.

An alternate translation, sonship, which occurs in a few versions carries the notion in English of one who has the status of a son.  E.g. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

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Ah ... it is just nothing .... XD
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You are right but adoption "may" be technically correct as well because we all go through a judicial process at the cross, like a court proceeding our judgement were sentenced upon our Lord Jesus, only then we were declared free by the Judge. People of the world may not understand why today God can freely pardon our sins (Isaiah 55:7). They may say things like God is flip flop or has gone soft on Sin. Of course No, because we all know He has a righteous foundation which is the cross.

Maybe look at it this way, after a while, the feeling of adoption disappears as time goes by because of the Love of the Father is perfect towards us.



P.S: not to say I'm disagreeing but for discussion sake. biggrin.gif

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post May 8 2014, 12:13 AM

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Why does God need a Son?

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Hebrews 1:1-2
God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.


Someone asked quite an interesting question, why does God need a son? Is He a God who has a wife and can bear a son?
A very common "question" that is confusing to the nature of who God is.

Hebrews 1:1-2, explains that in the past, God spoke through various prophets in many portions and in many ways. What this means is that God uses Prophets (Man) to represent Him under OT. This means that the common people lookup to Man as being representative of God. And the days long ago represents the Old Testament Law. We all know that the old is only a shadow, a copy of the actual divine Kingdom of Heaven to come.
In other words, the OT is NOT the original. It's only a copy.

So we need to understand what happens in the OT, seeing that prophets represents God. The God of the burning bush did say to Abraham, Walk before Me (Genesis 17:1) which means, represent me, Abraham. But we all know in OT most of the prophets was imperfect. They messed up one way or another and if you noticed, there was a distance between the people and God. (Exodus 3:5)

In verse 2 of Hebrews 1, then it continue to say,

Hebrews 1:2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.

In these last days means, the final revelation of God is revealed in his Son, Christ Jesus.

Question. Why? Why in the OT, God is represented by Man and under the NT, God is represented through his begotten Son. One is Man, another God's Son.

To answer this question, you need to understand what did Jesus came to do. I won't waste much time, I'll give you the answer straight.

Jesus came to bring reconciliation between Us back to God through his sacrifice at the cross.

In the days of Old, Man represented God but there is a distance, In this last days, The Son represented God and there is reconciliation.
One is of a distance, One is of reconciliation. Do you understand the revelation now, why a Son and not any Man?

The answer is relationship. God wanted us to connect to Him in the relationship like a Father to a Son. He revealed Himself in his begotten Son so that we understand this. Father and Son.*

And Jesus Christ represents that.

God Bless.


*represent daughters as well.

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post May 8 2014, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(bananajoe @ May 8 2014, 03:41 PM)
unknown warrior

check out praise and worship "Yehovah naa mora" song from india. saw someone posted it on FB and thought of exploring it.

beautifully rendered in bharatanatyam dance

this is the modern version based on the original song below. getting popular now.

this is the traditional version with all the indian music. if you want to see the original song, this is it.

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post May 10 2014, 11:23 AM

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This song really ministers to me.

This is the privilege we have, that we can sing song of praise to God.

The greatest joy.
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post May 10 2014, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ May 10 2014, 04:11 PM)
That has a good melody too. It doesn't sound alike like many Christian musicians fall trap into.
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This song is for you, Sophiera.

Just for you, listen to the lyrics.

Please, it will help you to understand God better. smile.gif



Edit:

Here's the CD version w lyrics.



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post May 11 2014, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ May 11 2014, 04:56 AM)
oh it's late, i'll check it out tomorrow.

By the way, do you think this game is... evil?

http://dragcave.net/user/Sophiera

Dragon Cave basically runs like this.

1. Grab egg, runts from wild dragons or people's bred eggs.
2. Raise egg into baby.
3. Raise baby into adult.
4. Repeat cycle, or start your own lineage of babies.

Trading and gifting options are available. Forum lots of people too. Every month, two new species are added to the site.

I don't see anything evil in raising imaginary animals. Yeah, it's not a good example to steal wildlife babies in real life, runt or not. But these are not real wildlife.

An aquaintance (hardcore christian) quit the game because they're dragons. Because dragon=satan logic. Nothing in the game promotes that. Here is an example of their species description. It's like reading a wildlife book.

"Bright-Breasted Wyverns are a breed of dragon easily recognized by their bright red markings. They are a small breed, only the size of a full-grown man. However, they have developed poisonous barbs on their feet to make up for their size. Their coloration is used to warn off potential predators of the danger, and is also used to attract mates. They are very social, and can often be seen preening in large groups."
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You already said mah, hardcore. laugh.gif

The rule is simple. Whatever you do, don't let it separate you from your Heavenly Father.
If something that you do, you feel guilty about it, then come to Him and pray about it.
Take it as an opportunity to ask.

Since you asked me, I don't think is evil. But that is not the point; because even the most simplest and innocent game/whatever, if it occupy your time so much, it distract you from God, then I can say it's a problem.

It's not so much how many long hours you spend on the game, but you should ask, by the very thing you do, it stops you totally from coming to God or spending time with Him, then pray about it. If it doesn't and you're still spending regular time with God, then take it as nothing.

And if it bugs you and you feel uneasy about it, pray also.

Hope that help.
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post May 11 2014, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ May 11 2014, 03:27 PM)
How would I know God says what? I never hear voices or a conviction. It feels futile and like I'm not good enough to literally hear God like the other more spiritual ones.
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Yes you can hear God. smile.gif

It's not about audible voices all the time but inner promptings.
And the best and perhaps the easiest way to hear God, are the embedded words in the Bible.
Those are spiritual words meant to speak to you for every occasion and season.

Then there is the aspect of everyday life.

God teaches us to hear His voice little by little. It can be something as simple as being at the shopping mall and not feeling good about a purchase you’re about to make. No big deal. You put it back. At School, you feel an unrest around a certain person. You just back away. At home, you feel a prompting to spend time with your Mom. At night you hear a suggestion, “Turn off the TV. Go to bed. You need your rest.” You turn it off.

Pay attention to what you’re feeling. Those are all little ways that the Holy Spirit guides us. Don’t ignore the impressions, the promptings. God speaks to us in a Still, Small Voice. He is not going to boom out a loud dramatic way to get your attention. When God speaks, it’s usually subtle.

If you really want to get attuned to God, You have to take time to get quiet and listen to God.




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post May 12 2014, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ May 12 2014, 02:04 AM)
Oooh. I wish people explained this to me 8 years ago. Or they did but it wasn't detailed.

My brother is worried that all of us are not true Christians and will end up in hell. It's part of my almost-obsession in finding answers to that regard. He doesn't believe everyone saved is saved.
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But if you understand the Gospel, Salvation is assured.

And I believe there are many Christians who may not understand completely what the Gospel is all about.


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post May 12 2014, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ May 12 2014, 03:28 PM)
I'm going to PM you something that has bothered me in the past. My mom said it's nothing wrong but I found it offensive.

Edit: Apparently I've deleted it, or lost in the pile. Dang, it made me really mad too. It's by the brother of that hardcore Christian and he preached to me as if I was an unbeliever. It's not a cookie cutter gospel post either. It's personalized with my name on it. Are they saying I'm not Christian enough or something?
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Can I just reassure you right now, your Salvation is secured by Christ Jesus?

And you got it by receiving it wholeheartedly with open arms?

That's all.
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post May 12 2014, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ May 12 2014, 05:20 PM)
Then why I kena that mail?  rclxub.gif
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Sister, I don't know what mail.

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Why Christians should not be afraid

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Psalm 118:6
The LORD is with me; I will not be afraid. What can mere mortals do to me?


I want to share something with you guys, something I've experienced.
It's not easy to echo this portion of scripture (Psalm 118:6). Very easy to say it out but very difficult to put it into practise.
But if you allow God to bring you to that elevated place, oh how unshakable you will be! King David discovered this secret.

In one of my quiet time with God, God gave me a revelation why some Christians today are not living out the full life Jesus came to give.
Having the Shalom Peace of God that surpasses all understanding even when trouble strikes is a blessing indeed. It helps to put life in proper perspective even in critical times. It's a blessing because it allows you sleep. Christians who are at rest are very powerful Christians, so to speak. This I know is true.

There are Christians who rely on external things like Money, own Strength, own Wisdom, self Confident, Own qualification, etc as a source of confidence and that is why When trouble comes, they crumble easily. The testing of life wipes them out like a fire. Those are what you call, wood (Biblical typology) which are easily burnt. (1 Corinthians 3:12) But if you put your trust in God and God alone, Psalms 118:6 is yours.

The Revelation came from this portion of the book Zechariah 13.

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See, whether you like it or not, God will allow troubles and allow his children to the test, there are no exemptions. (John 16:33)
And I can understand why, not many Christians are willing to go through the trials that God uses to refine.
Because it's painful and hard. It's real and sometimes it feels like a heavy load, you can't carry. Nobody likes that.

I want to share a secret with you. You can go through it. How?
The secret is Prayer. Pray unceasingly. (Ephesians 6:18 ) You want to know how radical I got?
I prayed in the toilet during work time every few hours, I prayed in my Table with tears, I prayed the moment I got home, lock myself in my "prayer room". I prayed whenever I can because I went through a sort of a spiritual testing of fire. Seems like everything was coming against me.

Without Prayer, you can't go through the trials. It's so painful, it can be depressing.
So Pray unceasingly. Once you pass through it, you'll not be shaken. And verse 9 came true for me. (They will call on my name and I will answer them)

Just recently, I was disturbed by something, Immediately I went to prayer, you know what? Before I even finished putting my prayers in words, God answered and solve the problem before I even finished my prayer. Hallelujah! Well don't say this is only for me, I say it's for you too.

God Bless.








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post May 15 2014, 08:49 PM

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Hey guys,

Do you know in Malaysia, one of the greatest revival happened in our own nation, Sarawak?

It happened during the 80's.

It's a long read but it's worth the encouragement.

http://www.mountmurud.com/pdf/PDF-%20Ba-Kelalan-Miracles.pdf



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post May 18 2014, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ May 18 2014, 03:33 AM)
I dunno why i can't stop crying when i watched When God Ran music vid.
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You cried because that is God holding you in his arm. smile.gif



well.....I cried too. tongue.gif
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Christian Music in Bahasa






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QUOTE(Sophiera @ May 27 2014, 03:31 PM)
I am starting to think that I can only won and control others by hurting them....
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Or...you can learn to be patience........well nobody is perfect but we can learn to improve day by day.



QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ May 27 2014, 10:31 PM)
Hi guys, can I ask something about Christianity?

What's the difference between a Christian and a Catholic?
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Denomination difference in terms of, Church Traditions and Rituals.

Catholic means Universal.

But they are still Christians non the less.

Christians actually means one who believes and follows Christ Jesus.



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QUOTE(Sophiera @ May 28 2014, 01:41 AM)
So many times i kena pijak because I'm not cruel enough. Like being withheld of my pay...

In a dream also always kalah. Sleep also no escape from my kalahness  doh.gif  cry.gif shakehead.gif
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We don't have to be a doormat but we don't have to be cruel either.

Just know your reasons whether it's justified.
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QUOTE(kernan_rio @ May 28 2014, 06:17 PM)
Christianity is not a religion? Do you know what religion means?
You mean Christian don't believe in God?  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(subimpact @ May 29 2014, 12:07 AM)

i know what is religion, its a word where they do not know what classified groups of a people that follows a principle and teaching. but its more of man made stuff with extra salt pepper and other stuff.
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Hey guys, don't mind if I share this.

Why Christianity is not a religion?

Because the root word religion in classic Latin ("religio") means to bind.

In typology meaning one's ultimate aim or salvation is bound to the laws or doctrine of being save.

Here's a couple of excerpt

http://philippians1v21.wordpress.com/why-b...not-a-religion/

The way to be right with God in every religion is by earning your way. It is based on works, not grace. Christianity is different from every religion in this aspect: all other religions (including Mormonism, Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism) state that you must earn the right to be reconciled with God. It is by what you do in this life (good deeds or bad deeds) that determines your eternal destiny. Christianity is completely different from this. It is not religion.

http://www.christinyou.net/pages/Xnotrel.html

The Latin word from which the English word "religion" is derived means "to bind up." Jesus did not come to bind us up in rules and regulations or rituals of devotion, but to set us free to be man as God inended.


http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christiani...lationship.aspx

With all the religions in the world, what makes Christianity different?
Christianity is not a set of rules that one must follow to gain acceptance or inclusion. The Apostle Paul himself said that we are saved by faith, not by works.
But so many Christians walk around with the mindset today that they must do something or continue to do something to maintain their identity as a Christian.
Think of Christianity more as a relationship, or marriage, if you well. As the Church, we are in fact called the bride of Christ throughout Scripture.




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QUOTE(manickam123 @ May 28 2014, 09:51 PM)
I never said it was a religion.

nope, there's the third type - those in denial, they think they doing a great service to god, play a lot of politics at church, all they care is their treasures in heaven but they don't give a crap about those "poor in spirit". In other words, they just use people for their own benefit.

I heard of stories of mistreatment and abuse of power.

I heard of stories of politics in church, where some of the leaders surround themselves with those people who are second generation members of the church, whereas those outsiders, they whack them with double standard requirements.

Yeah, I even heard of stories of one pastor who use a lot of money to build an unnecessary building for his church, drained the funds of the church and cause half the congregation to leave. I won't say whichchurch that is, but for sure, they didn't need that huge building.....which they only use like several times a year and it was very far away from the other satellite churches anyway.

The decision to build the building wasn't democratic. Most of those nominated into the committee was his gang members. As "yes men", of course they all approved it.

Then there's another story of a church in PJ, a church leader influence a sister to dump her boyfriend, because he misused his leadership influences to brainwash her into thinking the boyfriend wasn't godly enough. After they broke up, he made his move on her and it was successful.

I have a Christian friend, she got pregnant when she was 22 because she had pre-marital sex with a church worker who was in charge of the Audio equipment. The church sacked the church worker and they impose their decision that the marriage between my friend and the church worker wasn't feasible. Next, they forced her to give away her baby for adoption.

5 years later, she remarried, but changed to another church, she cried every day wondering how is the child she never known is doing now.

There are some church people who are very dogmatic...very selfish, very critical, only think about themselves.
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Yo Man,

I can understand where you're coming. How I solve this dissatisfaction is to pray for them and still love them.

Fighting fire with fire will only cause more burns that you ever hope to subside. Prayers works.

Well all this, if you are a Christian, otherwise just take it as knowledge.




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QUOTE(subimpact @ May 29 2014, 02:47 AM)
thanks for sharing... but i already know that Christianity is a relationship with god biggrin.gif
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Amen.

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