Stop your provocation and I don't mind to continue.
Be neutral and I will take part, without your insinuating, Don't even mention the word False Teacher to me.

ESPECIALLY to me, because I hate that. You don't know my background, you don't know my life and you don't know my walk with God.

If you can give me that, I will continue and shake hands with you. Deal?

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Sep 29 2014, 06:07 PM

Spiritually immature is not name calling.

Are you brought up as Chinese Educated?
You seem to have difficulty understanding what is condition and what is a name.

Of course Everything that is done by Jesus is divine. There are no accidents nor coincidence when it comes from The Lord.
Yes Transformation of the Heart is from the Holy Spirit, but it doesn't come from Hard Talk or Harshness from other people.

Public Worship or the whole Service, which one now?
How can there be interpretation without the Speaking of tongues first?

Oh please, don't kid yourself. LYN Staff are not that stupid. Give them more credit will you?

What you did was provocation. Name Calling and being condescending. You yourself admit to provoking. Whether through scripture or not, to me that's irrelevant.

And provocation inevitable leads to bashing.

Tell me, In the course of your entire life while in this forum,

have anyone come to repentance when you quote scripture by the way you communicate?

do you see anyone coming back to God by what you do? Be honest with me.

Same thing can be said of your personalization opinion about my interpretation of scripture. If you find that condescending, I find this condescending.

It's the way you handle Christians. You are so fixated on False Prophet doctrine, you don't know how to use other scriptures to touch lives.
It seems you love to thrive on that only. So far that's what I see.


Sometime they are praying in tongues, it's really up to them.

His Name account has nothing to do with Lucifer.
Are you serious? Sometime I don't know where your maturity lie.

Read it in context.
False Teacher who insist on going back to the Law, that's usually the case.

Has anyone come to you and testify that because of your posting, they are very much encouraged in the Lord.

Ask yourself that.

If Not, then you might as well reconsider if what you're doing is of the Holy Spirit or just yourself.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Sep 29 2014, 09:52 PM

Told you, I find you spiritually immature in the way you handle Christians. In the sense that You're so fixated on False Prophet Doctrine, you think that is the only bona-fide verse that's going to bring people to repentance.

No it's not a sin to warn the Church of False Doctrine. That is needed of course but it doesn't come through the way of spreading fear or paranoia.

If you allow me to share with an older brother.............It comes through Knowing God, that you will know if there's something that does't add up or match, you don't need people screaming False prophet.

And Knowing God of Love and Grace well will involve spending time with Him and the way you handle people is the testimony whether you really know God personally or not, that is IN the scripture.

if you read carefully, The Bible never really forbid if people want to speak in tongues. The key verse is in verse 6 of 1 Corinthians 14. I don't think there's yet a Christian who would speak in tongue directly to another Brother during worship.

If you're so adamant that He is really Lucifer, I've got nothing more to say to you about this.

False Teacher in the Bible context are those who deny Jesus is Lord, that is He is the Messiah, He was crucified and Rose again and they vehemently Reject God's Grace, insisting on going back to the Law or Judaism.

You won't find anything much that out of those context.

Yes I know, this is largely very true, Not everyone even Christians knows Him personally. And my ministry is to reveal Him, that is my calling.

Yes I agree with what you have just said, my ministry is different from yours. I can't force you to take on mine.

Tell you what. You go ahead and do what you need to do. I'm okay with that.

Vice versa, If any of us both have err, speak out in neutrality, if really cannot come to agreement, we just agree to disagree at worse.

Steve is right, we cannot be arguing all the way till the cow fly to the moon.

Yes that is what I meant. Paul's context of a different Jesus are those that insist on going back to the Law of the Old Testament, rejecting Him as the Messiah.

Those of the circumcise and uncircumcised. The Boasting of Those of the Jewish descendant, etc.

Yes Yes Black Jesus and Buddhist Jesus.


Really depends on what you mean by cheap grace and wealth and health doctrine.

I find that the criticism against Grace, Wealth and Health can be quite far fetch at times.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Sep 29 2014, 11:00 PM

huh? who you're referring to?

Truce in post #1809.

I think it's only left theaccountant and simpletraveller.

Prophetjul is christian.

theAccountant is a troll
Simpletraveller hates all religion but seem to Hate Christianity more than other religion.

So we ignore those 2.

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I can explain about the Grace part.

I believe what they wrote against the Grace is mostly taken out of context from the preacher. They never really sit in through the entire sermon,
probably snippets of here and there and the summarised in wrong understanding as how you mention above. I've checked extensively in the Bible on Grace to be ensure of, that what they preached is in fact in line with the Bible.

For a long time we have understood it wrongly. We think we need to repent first in our actions.
And to the conventional Church, that is what repentance is. Change from our wicked ways.
And what is the measurement to check for repentance? The 10 commandments.
But many Christians don't understand, the more you try to do that*, the more you fall into it; that is you will sin more.

Many Christians do not understand what is the purpose and the design of the Law is for.
The Bible says the purpose of the Law is to show how sinful we are, for by the Law is the Knowledge of sin.
It's like a Syringe Jab to bring out the symptoms in your body.
The Law was never designed to make us righteous. It cannot and will never be for that purpose* because Christ is our Righteousness.

You see, Repentance is actually change of mind. Metanoya in the Greek.
The Bible says it is the goodness of God (Romans 2:4) that leads us to repentance, not the wrath of God, not by being sin conscious all the time.
In fact the more you think about sin, the more you will end up sinning. That is the Law of Death.

Question is, change of mind about what? Change our mind to the obedience of Faith in Christ. To his finish work, , His ONCE and FOR ALL eternal redemption.
The Bible says we are transform into the SAME IMAGE by beholding his glory. And What is the Glory of God? His Finished Work at the cross that give us Eternal Life.

So the point is this, the more we look to Christ, we will be transformed. Anything other than this will only lead us to the Flesh because the Law is about Man, Grace is about God. When we hook our focus on what is divine, miracles take place, hook the flesh? Only Failures.
We have focused wrong about repentance. That is why there is not much result in the Churches. People have been crying for revival and repentance without the proper understand of the above.

About the Health and Wealth, I'll talk with you about it, another day. And NO I'm not suggesting we are going on a trip to be millionaires if that is what you're thinking.
And Yes about the No Medicine and No Doctors, that is something that God never forbids. In Fact Doctors and Medicine is something that God really encourage for us to go to.

You may want to consider this for a thought. (just an opinion)

We are suppose to be the Salt of the world. A Light that should not be hidden.

I think sometime we need to just back off and leave them be.

Because the more we argue, it can fire back both ways, to you and to the other person.

Instead of bringing them to God, it drives them away.

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