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de1929
post Oct 1 2014, 08:43 AM

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Good Morning Malaysia... Be blessed and take control of your live in GOD's grace.

btw: Rebuke the thorn in the Name of Jesus. Sorry forgot to add HIS name.
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post Oct 2 2014, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 2 2014, 12:40 AM)
Contemplating to share devotion on how God will provide.................. hmm.gif
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I want lahh... plenty of bible verses about GOD's promise, strengthening, but Jesus wanted to restrain me sharing at all. I believe HE has HIS divine reason.

My fingers already itchy2x wanna post cry.gif , but i choose to make HIM happy wub.gif by yielding to HIS will. Obedience.

By GOD's grace i could post anything i believe as long as it's Christian value.
I believe it's good to post how GOD will provide.
I can rebuke voices that simply restrain me to share on how GOD will provide,

but... i try to demonstrate to Our Heavenly Father, that, after all Grace and leverage HE has given me, including to disobey, i still can choose to obey. Still, I choose to obey under GOD's grace. Under GOD's providion... Not by might, not by power.


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post Oct 3 2014, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Oct 3 2014, 10:55 AM)
You mentioned that the world was ruled by Jacob through Joseph. But then, any scriptural evidence that Jacob was actually ruling. I mean Jacob only managed to reunite with Joseph towards the end of his life. So how was the world being ruled by Jacob.

Jacob = Israel.
And your point being?
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What i got:
Joseph: PM Najib
Pharaoh: Sultan Malaysia
Jacob: PM mahathir mohamad

altough mahathir is not a father for najib, I can see up to "certain degree" that Mahathir still "ruling" malaysia by influencing / advising PM Najib. Same as how jacob advise joseph. executive decision still with PM najib, jacob also did not executive power from pharaoh that time.

Sultan malaysia / Pharaoh same thing: A symbol of monarch for a given country. Executive decision is not with them, with somebody else.

I hope i am not talking politics or give bad credits to malaysian leaders; if yes kindly accept my apology.


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post Oct 3 2014, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Oct 3 2014, 12:05 PM)
Come on.

Where in that passage is there any indication that Jacob = Mahathir. You are only interpreting from PehKey point of view. Is that what the bible says?

Where in the passage did Jacob advise Joseph pertaining to how should Joseph rule? Jacob only reunited with Joseph during the famine

Where in the bibble passage did it mention that Joseph is actually reigning? I believe at that time if the Pharoah wanted, he could take back all of the power given to Joseph.

Show me.

Dun just make assertions. Because anyone can make assertions.
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no need to show lahh.. just trust.. or else you will ended up atheist if ask too many question.

why ? cuz at the end, there are a lot of bible mistery that's not resolved. Wait until you go to heaven (if you are christian) then all of your questions will be satisfied.

to answer your question: I prayed to GOD, that's the revelation.

Anyone can make assertions, but it does not mean that Jesus is backing up my assertions... wanna proof ?




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post Oct 3 2014, 04:04 PM

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paradigm issue.

btw: about bible accuracy... do you know that we, as Christian, bible accuracy knowledge is irrelevant ?

I mean, if Jesus say the way to interpret is ABCD... then ABCD is the right paradigm... then ABCD lah regardless of accurate or not.
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post Oct 3 2014, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Oct 3 2014, 04:04 PM)
paradigm issue.

btw: about bible accuracy... do you know that we, as Christian, bible accuracy knowledge is irrelevant ?

I mean, if Jesus say the way to interpret is ABCD... then ABCD is the right paradigm... then ABCD lah regardless of accurate or not.
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Oct 3 2014, 04:20 PM)
Ah yah bro, it is revelant biggrin.gif

Of course, rhema is more important than the black and white, yet, at least the base is very important.

The Lord did quote from the Septuagint which is also a translation .... [though I heard a history that when the king ordered the 7? scribes to translate in separate rooms .... the result was the same ... now that's a miracle tongue.gif]

We trust that Lord is sovereign in preserving the Bible as what we have it today.
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Miscommunication bro biggrin.gif ... I hope this explanation can help readers here. Thanks for highlighting my simple writings.

I did not say bible is not important. It's important lahh... i mean bible is the authority in my life as well.

But rhema for each reader can be different right ? this lead to many revelation. e.g. the case is today. For beginning Christian, this is counter productive.

Therefore i advised the young christian to stick to bible, and ask Jesus what is the revelation for each reading session.

some nubbies christian, they read bible and they question about bible accuracy, and they develop doubt.
This is what i want to avoid. Those people has a wrong approach. It should be
1. Bible always correct
2. If it's inaccurate ? see rule no 1.

We question to Holy Spirit something that does not fit into our logic, when the rhema comes, it will empower your life.

sample about "accuracy" ? The creation

The creation. 6 days, no dinosaur, no skeleton, million of years. I don't care what atheist say about fossil here and there. When my bible say 6 days, i trust 6 days. stubborn ? i ask Jesus 6 days or not ? HE say: 6 days... so 6 days it is. This is the rhema for me, this is the empowerment for me.



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post Oct 3 2014, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Oct 3 2014, 07:57 PM)
If you are still around here .... go and enjoy the Lord with the saints at the group meeting ..... biggrin.gif
shoo shoo shoooo XD
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I am not familiar with word "with the saints"... are you implying he is catholic ? this one u know lah me ya... i ask honestly bro...
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post Oct 4 2014, 10:38 AM

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UW

Thanks. You simply strengthen me personally.

OOT: I am curious what's GOD's plan for this forum. There are a lot of silent reader and i am sure GOD leads them here for a reason.
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post Oct 5 2014, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(ThePharmacist @ Oct 5 2014, 03:35 PM)
Wow! Thank you for the swift and lengthy reply. thumbup.gif But i still don't understand after reading over a few times.  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
Some of the words make me more confused.  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
Maybe i will just summon ThePope  tongue.gif
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Hi Ms. ThePharmacist,

I am neither pope, pehkay but i would like to share something. hopefully it would be helpful.

Have you prayed like this: "Lord Jesus, help me to understand PehKay writings. I don't understand his writings. But I know YOU love me. I know YOU want me to be a mature Christian."

If you already did and still blur..blur... then maybe @ThePope can help further. perhaps he is tired leading worship today smile.gif
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post Oct 7 2014, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Oct 7 2014, 12:57 PM)
Well, Christianity is hard business.

Remember.

You are supposed to lose your life for it.
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I appreciate your boldness for Christ. Sure it's such a sacrifice to live like that.

My calling is to build people.

What do you think ? most people doesn't like being a "Christianity is a hard business, supposed to lose your life" Christian but i have to build them anyway, making them a better person day-by-day. Any idea ?


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post Oct 8 2014, 06:29 PM

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Just to throw ideas: Does anybody thinking about dating indonesian Christian ?

indonesia has 150 million populatoin and malaysia only 20 million. Sure have more choices. It may not be so accurate because i don't have breakdown on christian and not christian. But rest assured, you have more choices if you don't limit only to malaysian churches.



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post Oct 8 2014, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Oct 8 2014, 06:36 PM)
How ah? Migrate there? ...
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no lahh smile.gif

are you looking for blue colar indonesian ? which work in company like western digital ? got a church in sungai wei that focus to minister indonesian blue colar worker (a.k.a TKI tenaga kerja indonesia)

are you looking for white colar indonesian ? which work with work permit or indonesian green card ? got a church in sunway / klang just have these kind of congregation...

are you looking for student / fresh graduate ? oso got church tat focus to minister to those students / young professionals...

how about those people, are they going back to indonesia ? depends. some of them wanna stay in malaysia, some of them wanna go home.

ngai... you oso got inodnesian in your PJ church rite ? are they married or students ?
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post Oct 8 2014, 07:56 PM

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If you want to look for indonesian church in sunway, i can recommend this one:

http://www.freshgeneration.org/

Btw: they have futsal tournament so can build some networking biggrin.gif

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post Oct 9 2014, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Oct 9 2014, 02:05 AM)
I pray whenever I can, but I don't know if I'm praying hard enough.
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I tot u already have BF ?
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post Oct 9 2014, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Oct 9 2014, 09:28 AM)
Oi Oi don't say me la. I never say this is about me. Wah more like you butthurt suddenly so strong reaction. I can see your overdefensiveness.

I notice some close friends who date christian girls memang very stringent. And these close friends are christian guys.

Where got guys push hard for it, i see some of the christian guys try to accomodate everything for the christian girls. Then suddenly 6 months later she broke the poor guy heart by leaving him for a non-christian who recently converted. The guy is a nice teacher christian guy. Yes he is a bit nerdy and not adventurous but when it comes to christian requirements, he fullfil it all.

Then I also notice some christian girls at office reach over 30-40 years old, still like so high standard. Got one who work in a bank, when she was in her 20s, she rejected all the christian guys because not fullfil her requirements. Now she is 36, still acting like she is miss universe, got one christian guy in his 40s approach her also kena rejected. This is what i observe at the church. Really so careful and high requirement, mind as well become celebate better.
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cuz these girl trust in her instinct and sense of security. Which is normal. So the safest for them ... still being single, work in bank, and no children. They learn when girl getting old, sagging here and there. And man always like "hot chicks"... rarely hot mama right ? No women getting old and getting hotter hehehe... so... it's fueled their fear... so, based on their fear, better don't move at all.

and many..many..many..many..many.. reason to fear... in simple word... fear
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post Oct 9 2014, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Oct 9 2014, 02:05 AM)
I pray whenever I can, but I don't know if I'm praying hard enough.
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Have you prayed that GOD will deal with him according to HIS perfect will ? something like below:

LORD JESUS: kindly do what you please lah LORD i am tired with this BF... anything... anything oso boleh... anything LORD please... I don't want to limit you... my BF is so stubborn so please do anything with my BF so my BF can receive you as savior.


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post Oct 9 2014, 03:59 PM

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i didn't mean to offend women, just sharing lor for honest guy biggrin.gif

For guy, try to look for women with lower economy class. Women needs security. Sometimes a stable man simply can win because he demonstrates stability.

need to deliver baby, woman afraid during difficult times man run away...

also for indonesian woman here, they need malaysian man cuz it provides them immigration / legal status stability. She can work, she will bring her parents here... she wanna build a better live here, when she delivers, her parents will be with her... but for all of this to hapen, imigresen needs to settle first lahh... married with IC guy.


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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Oct 9 2014, 04:25 PM)
I guess spiritual Christian need security in the sense that their spouse fear the God and always will put God in the first priority even over them. so when their spouse or partner is not Christian which also mean they are not fear and show reverence to God, how can they feel secure?

just my very fundamental understanding
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Women need hug and touch.

Many women grew up in military style / strict discipline family, which thinking that family hugging only makes you a weak person, being a woman is weak, need to be strong like men, etc...etc...

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post Oct 9 2014, 05:10 PM

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i mean, hug and touch is a sense of security for women. regardless coming from christian man or not.
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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Oct 9 2014, 05:24 PM)
Yeah i guess i be running without a running partner, too much hassle, haha.

Lighter to run alone.
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True laa... but only 1000 point lor... with parner 10.000 points extra bonus... little2x people management get can 10 times 1 man show

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