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Fiona Chin
post Sep 8 2014, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Sep 6 2014, 11:21 PM)
Yeah... That's why I accepted the offer even though it's below average.

Btw... 1.8k 10 years ago? Can't compare la... SG no inflation over 10 years? I don't believe lo unsure.gif
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Sad leh, NUS grads in MNC. Just after SARS, SG kena recession, properties drop drop drop drop like grapes, everywhere no job. Engineering very hard to catch up finance already, engineers dug their own graves long ago. Say for my fiance, director of a medium size consultants and compare with myself an admin in bank, salary difference by almost twice. Hopefully next batch to dig their own graves are lawyers, kanasai so expensive, hehe.
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post Sep 9 2014, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Sep 8 2014, 07:27 PM)
doh.gif So you're earning more than your future husband, double the salary lagi?

Wow... Director for consultant. At least also over 10k gua. So your salary at least 20k la?
That's MOM rule also... Not company rule.
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No la I earn 5k, he 10k, I do admin work only. Engineers should be about there already maybe 20-30k max in big MNC? But still less than my boss, seldom in the office but drawing much more. Always ask me book lunch table, book tickets only, don't know how he do his work.

QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Sep 8 2014, 08:16 PM)
biggrin.gif I new guy here how I know wor  blush.gif
So what you drive? BMW X6 50i? biggrin.gif
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He driving 7th series. Real estate people all big cars.
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post Sep 11 2014, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(razo2 @ Sep 11 2014, 09:45 AM)
Really? must be in top position to even get that kind of money ....
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No? Invested in the wrong stock cry.gif . Nebermine got rice eat rice, got porridge eat porridge, kids want study engineering disown them asap.
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Sep 11 2014, 10:53 PM)
My idea of coming to work at SG is at least to get the first 1/2 (0.5) bucket of gold ( one bucket normally defined as 100k mah) for better life when I come back to M'sia. At least can begin more easily, no need depend too much on family. Also gain some experience, make the resume nicer a bit. Coz work in SG, the pace of work is quite fast... Everyone going like fast forwarding and also their regulation/management while doing work is quite a lot better. Ppl will want you when you're back to M'sia. *I think biggrin.gif * Just whether you want to earn MYR back in M'sia or continue earn SGD in Singapore.
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This is the Lost's island. Once you get in, you never get out. It always pull you back. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif .
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post Sep 13 2014, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(poor_engineer @ Sep 12 2014, 11:39 PM)
I think normally people who afford to go back are mostly non exec workers. OT to max, earn first bucket of gold then go back to start small business. No way for a factory worker to go back to become manager in Msia, and don't think they like to work similar labour jobs in Msia. Ppl who start with exec level normally get PR after few years, then buy hdb to settle down. You ask them go back while leaving whole bunch of cpf in Sg , earn half to at most 3 quarter of their current pay. Not many can do that lor...
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None exec are the group who can't afford to continue stay in SG cause the job they do mangala also can do and forced to go back because younger and cheaper work force replacing them. Lovely country who want to leave?
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post Sep 13 2014, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Sep 13 2014, 07:28 PM)
How many people actually retire at 55 though? My dad this year 67 still working. But of course that's also partially cos he has 5 kids, 3 of which are still schooling / in uni lol.
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Why your father's kids' high flying eldest or 2nd brother never help to lighten up the family burden? Anyway, bapa Singapore, ex PM, MM, PM's father, annual salary few million sgd still working at 90 notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif . Peasant enough money want to retire at 55 ah biggrin.gif ?
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post Sep 15 2014, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Sep 15 2014, 03:38 PM)
Wow, thats low for a engineering grad. What engineering degree holding job are you in if your working 12 hour shifts?

The last time i used to work that was when i was a welding inspector on contract in singapore. At least the pay wasnt so bad at 500SGD daily rate.
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Best paid labourer job so far in SG.
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post Sep 16 2014, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Sep 15 2014, 06:00 PM)
Welding inspector arent labourers since we just do periodic inspections and some of us are cooped in our office pouring over documentation pertaining to welding procedures etc.

The laborers would be the fitters and grinder workers, even welders in korea are regarded as professionals and not laborers.
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People would look at you like how you look at fitters and grinders. Fitters and grinders may think they are professional too in their own aspect.

Even my hubby who has this professional engineer license I still think he is a laborer same class with the mangala workers. My company provide funds for projects, during meetings with those professionals, developer, architect, engineer, contractor, bla bla bla, they look all same to me, people who get the job done, same like the carpenter who do my closet, no people at my side really care what certification they have and how hard to get it.
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post Sep 16 2014, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(ch_teo @ Sep 16 2014, 01:24 PM)
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certain people who regards welding inspector as laborer may not known the powerful of certified Welding Inspector like CSWIP. the same applies for PE.
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Auditor? As the name suggest, welding inspector do inspection, walk around look look see see with engineers' drawings, like a technician, know how but don't know why. I won't call my car mechanic a professional, even if its bm certified. Title inflation spread out from banking already?
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post Sep 18 2014, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(JohnJon82 @ Sep 16 2014, 05:42 PM)
He got his chartered already? New company got opening or not?
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Ya just pass. Do I get title like Irs being the mrs? drool.gif

QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Sep 16 2014, 08:31 PM)
doh.gif Have you gone to site and see how engineers work in the site?

The difference between engineer and those below engineer is that engineer won't really need to get their hands dirty. Mostly just design, monitoring or supervising based on their scope of work. Sure got technician or other technical person working under engineer that can be ordered to do those stuffs biggrin.gif

They don't know why to do something... But they know how to do that something. That's why engineers with appropriate knowledge guides them, telling them what to do.

PE... Takes few years experience to get it eh... Not something so easy to get right? Don't look down on that PE title la doh.gif

No PE you no building stay, no electricity use, no water flush toilet bowl, no... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Pay them some respect, especially when the one is your husband.
3 months normally? Easily RM20k +... Omg that's a huge sum doh.gif
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You see even the welding inspector talking so big shot like he own the ship like that. You would think the higher hierarchy welding engineer would be the king and the hull or whatever thing engineer and naval architect would be rolled out red carpet and served with champagne when on site. Outside people don't care one. They all are being looked at as how you look at workers on site. They also certified electrician, certified crane driver bla bla bla. Without electrician approval the building cannot turn on power, wah geng leh. In the end just a worker biggrin.gif .
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post Sep 18 2014, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(tianlong_2020 @ Sep 18 2014, 10:07 AM)
understand that it woupd be cheaper to stay in jb. but as an auditor, the working hours is crazy. sometimes u leave office at 3am and back to office at 8:30am. It will be too tired for me to jam at the border..
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Big 4 leh who dare touch you, represent the authority, what for work till 3am, just throw the things back to the accountants ask them redo, summarise into 1 page then come again. Should learn from the korea expat you know.
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post Sep 19 2014, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(tianlong_2020 @ Sep 18 2014, 11:51 AM)
you are either auditor or mnc accountant who got tortured by them i guess. hahaha.
but still, i need to ready for the late night working culture. guess it would be better than msia. T.T
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Passed my ACCA but never practice. Now working as admin in a 9-5 job easy life.

QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Sep 18 2014, 10:25 PM)
I also geng leh. Work as petrol kiosk pump attendant. Consider Oil & Gas also. I no pump petrol can bring down the whole public transportation system.
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Yes, representing the client you can do that and bring havoc to economy. No erp income gahmen also scare you already.

QUOTE(tianlong_2020 @ Sep 19 2014, 10:25 AM)
Her pay will be better if work in Singapore, but with more stress. She is quite satisfied to work in msia government hospital, with 25 days leave + unwritten benefits, clock in and out on time, months of paid maternity leave, and can get unpaid maternity leave up to 5 years. Mana boleh cari kerja ni? haha.
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Not to mention pension money until die drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif , faster treatment and 1 rm fee in gahmen hospital, easier i help u u help me relationship in numbers of thing. Basically the lower salary is justified by better benefits. Try getting hospitalized in SG biggrin.gif .
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post Sep 22 2014, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(LiangZhuge @ Sep 21 2014, 09:18 PM)
"If they cannot find jobs, what is the point? You own a degree, but so what? That you can't eat it. If that cannot give you a good life, a good job, it is meaningless,"

http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/...on-wan-20130505

So to answer your question, degree holder = no class  tongue.gif
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You believe what ministers say ah blink.gif ? You go see those SG MP CV, not OxBridge then HarPenn liao. Like the rich people tell you money no use one so much for what. Degree no use one, go get some sub par cert and act big can already with chicken feather as command arrow.
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post Sep 22 2014, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Sep 22 2014, 01:06 PM)
From my office i can oversee prelude on the berth but im not stationed in SHI.

Thats a big oversight if peple can mix up 25mm with 250mm.

Here in korea, i made it very clear that they follow all the instructions given to them to the letter, and i do periodic spot checks and highlight any areas which fail to meet with said procedures.

The workmanship for the most part in korea is far superior than what you can get in singapore. Plus they build their ships/rigs in blocks/modules which is a faster, more efficient and less dangerous method of constructing things.

The only problem is it requires skill workmanship, additional heavy lifting equipment and good management to build the way they do, something singapore shipyards lack in all three areas compared to korea.

Doesnt mean korean ppl dont make mistakes or are stubborn as shit, just today got a dispute on one of their fabricated items, looks like i gotta make a "findings" report again.
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Wah so geng rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif . All hail chicken feather notworthy.gif .

QUOTE(LiangZhuge @ Sep 22 2014, 03:07 PM)
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Refund my ABSD I burn my degree scroll to support him, throw in my master too.
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post Sep 26 2014, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ Sep 25 2014, 10:25 PM)
Been working here for a year+.. Means a year I did not touch my car and go back frequently.. Honestly $$ drives me, some of my peers contemplating to return back get married, family all. But I dont care, not family orientated. Perhaps the only thing i miss is driving. Been taking bus to work all while haha.. How do you guys cope with this? Stay emotionally mentally strong, at least for 5-10 years
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The roads are crowded already and full of bullies.

1. Buy a car.
2. Get a job that drive a car.
3. Go home often. Family comes first.
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post Sep 29 2014, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(HenDa @ Sep 28 2014, 07:45 PM)
well for me... taxi is even better... no need to find parking, maintenance, depreciation, toll, petrol etc etc

I can can taxi easily with apps, at least in the place I am staying around

I can just relax at the back when i need to...

this is just because I am single:)

of course if you have kids and etc, having a car could be a better options..
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Its ok, only rich people drive for leisure in Singapore. Poor souls like us, thanks to high rental and properties prices around MRT stations, fully loaded bus, the frequent breakdown of the MRT, need cars to travel from far away house to work on time because 1 minute late our boss will sack us, complain to ICA, revoke PR and send back to Malaysia within 24 hours time frame.

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post Sep 29 2014, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(darkages @ Sep 29 2014, 01:23 PM)
Anyone knows if Malaysian SPR can apply US Visa at US Embassy in Singapore?
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Yes. Even my mum on long term visit pass can get it. Remember to make appointment and chew a lot of gums before going down for interview. TSA vmad.gif .

QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Sep 29 2014, 01:57 PM)
So serious ?
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Worst case scenario. Can't lose my job, got debt until my neck.
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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Sep 29 2014, 06:32 PM)
I reckon your debt will be your property ownership ?
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Yes yes, houses and car. near to 2 million, shiver every time my phone ring near due date of installments.

QUOTE(Tigerr @ Sep 29 2014, 06:41 PM)
Said until like that. Why drive a luxury car instead? Also u mean if take taxi ll be slower than u driving? Staying far away from work, hmm....most likely ll get into jam n u never late for work for 1 minute? If yes, why u still in singapore instead of sent back to Malaysia....

Joking joking har....dont angry....
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post Oct 1 2014, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Sep 30 2014, 08:33 PM)
shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif 2 million... SGD... That's a really huge sum  drool.gif
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Work hard enough and you will be in debt with millions until the day you retired.

QUOTE(deodorant @ Oct 1 2014, 08:43 AM)
Anyone know how end-of-life (10 years) cars works in SG?

Just as an example, assuming one buys a Mar-2006 registered Proton Savvy for $8.8k, which has an OMV of $7.7k.

In Feb-Mar 2016 the COE expires and car deregisters.

According to OneMotoring site it seems you would be eligible for a 50% ARF rebate which translates to 50% of OMV i.e. $3.85k

So effectively you'd have paid $4.95k to use a car for almost 2 years (not including road tax insurance etc etc lah.

Is that how it works?
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Yes correct. Must dereg 1 day before. If you pass 10 years then 0 dollar already. But the car is OPC, so not 2 years exactly. Supporting buatan Malaysia, good for you thumbup.gif . Hidup tun ma, syukur we have proton,

QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Oct 1 2014, 09:16 AM)
I reckon you can use your CPF to pay your monthly installments ? Houses (two you mean ?), that's an achievement considering the high prices there.
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Like they say, girl no need to study one, find a rich husband can already wub.gif . Good days are gone. Now 2 ppl combined cpf also not enough to pay for the installments.
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post Oct 3 2014, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Oct 2 2014, 10:37 PM)
shocking.gif Sounds like 1.8k vs 8.1k

Really got so much difference? Different level one eh.
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Most professional fields have that kind of trend. Doctors, dentists, lawyers, engineers, accountants all start low. For your engineering field, starting also 2-3k, possible to achieve 8k with say about 6-7 years exp executive engineer before going to managerial position with the license, eh?

If you look only to figures, join the financial sector, no other professions in SG beat that, except MPs I suppose. But banking job satisfaction zero.

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