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 The Raw Selvedge Denim Thread V6, All of your raw and/or selvedge denims

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post Aug 8 2014, 12:09 PM

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Just wondering, does anyone have issues with leg twist? Happened with my APC's, right leg twists inwards pushing the selvedge line towards the middle. Same thing with my current Levi's.
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post Aug 15 2014, 11:44 PM

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So it's due to a similar twill being employed, I need to read up more on this.
Not to say dislike, but the actual hassle of constantly adjusting the lower leg does lead to some interesting creasing and fades on the right knee. A benefit I'd say, if one doesn't mind it. I just don't like the selvedge facing the front, it looks quite awkward in my opinion.

QUOTE(junky_man @ Aug 15 2014, 11:38 PM)
leg twist is part of raw denim/selvedge is part of the allure. some people desire that look for the fades.

if you dont fancy it, try broken twill denim. left hand twill will also counter the leg twist if im not mistaken.
selvedge denim can also be source from countries like bangladdesh. lower production cost plus lower source cotton (non-zimbabwe cotton or non-texas cotton) can also produce cheap selvedge denim.

higher prices for jap denims is because of their source of cotton (zimbabwe being the best) plus the skill of the workers in the japanese mills contribute to more expensive but higher quality denims.
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post Aug 18 2014, 01:17 AM

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With my Petit New Standards, they weren't so bad but still quite obvious. A bit worse with my current Levi's 511 I'd say, maybe due to it being looser.
QUOTE(junky_man @ Aug 16 2014, 01:26 PM)
never had that severe leg twist. are you wearing lose cut or tight?
"half" selvedge. topkek.
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post Aug 20 2014, 06:21 PM

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought A.P.C.'s were sanforized? I never did a pre-wear soak for my pair, just recently did a machine wash because I can't really be bothered. Guess I can't put them on anymore post-wash, garage sales here I come.
QUOTE(junky_man @ Aug 18 2014, 10:45 AM)
Ahh....A.P.C. eh?

I guess you have to factor those jeans are also unsanforised causing the leg twist.
ada brand baru nampak gaya i guess.

it's the denim that makes the brand, not the brand that makes the denim. if that makes sense. tongue.gif
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post Sep 1 2014, 10:56 AM

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Very nice, great fit. Cuffs seem a bit tall though, or is it just the angle?
QUOTE(boneyM @ Sep 1 2014, 09:00 AM)
Unbranded 301 worn for 2 years
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post Sep 2 2014, 07:12 PM

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Did you hem? It looks perfect length-wise with that cuff. I can see the crease where you did a shorter cuff from before.
QUOTE(boneyM @ Sep 2 2014, 06:53 PM)
It is not the angle, i did cuff a little bit tall
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post Sep 8 2014, 01:02 PM

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Speaking of hems, what's your go-to number of cuffs if you do cuff? And also, cuff height?
Need more fit/evo pictures in here.

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post Sep 10 2014, 01:44 AM

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Cuff it.
QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Sep 10 2014, 12:57 AM)
guys need help.
I just bought a pair of raw jeans and any tips to stop it from bleeding the blue dye on my shoes?
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post Oct 12 2014, 05:56 PM

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Noticed those too, Levi's is apparently selling a MIJ series at the moment. Didn't notice any rigid, and not a particular fan of the washes. If I'm not mistaken, they have a 508 MIJ too, tapered cut. No idea on origin of denim used though, any experts care to clarify?
I find the irony hilarious though.

QUOTE(Malformed @ Oct 12 2014, 01:42 AM)
Was in Levi's The Gardens, they were selling selvedge denim. But unfortunately all of them are straight / regular cut. It had the 'Made in Japan' word in the tag, but doesn't mean that all tag with 'Made in Japan' was selvedge.
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post Oct 12 2014, 09:59 PM

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Wouldn't suggest so many soaks, if it's sharp fades you're after. Quite curious about the shrinkage though, are Uniqlo denim unsanforized?
QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Oct 12 2014, 07:20 PM)
Unlike my other uniqlo pants, the zippers are pretty rough. Doesn't go smoothly all the way to the top. Protip: zip your pants first, then button it.
Planning to give it a quick warm soak after 2 weeks, just to shrink it a bit more, and then decide if wanna alter or not.
I'm not really a hardcore jeans enthusiast, so I'm gonna wash it after about a month or so. Gonna post some pics after the proper wash if you guys are interested.
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post Oct 13 2014, 04:16 PM

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You're quite tall, eh? Isn't Uniqlo's inseam something like 33?
QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Oct 12 2014, 10:30 PM)
I prefer a subtle fade actually, so I dont really mind tongue.gif

I didnt really measure the jeans prior to the soak, but I can confirm that it's shorter after the soak. Cos my heels dont step on the jeans anymore, and I only have to single cuff rather than double cuff to make the jeans rest nicely on my shoes.
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post Oct 14 2014, 05:19 PM

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Nothing quite interesting if you're looking for rigid cuts, just pre-faded jeans in the usual models if I'm not mistaken. The only selling point is perhaps MIJ. They're available online too, now that Levi's has opened an online store for Malaysia.
QUOTE(junky_man @ Oct 14 2014, 09:24 AM)
haven't seen MIJ levi's in the flesh before. need to dig up some info on it.

But before this, they sell LVC which are the MIA 501 jeans.
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post Jan 13 2015, 05:12 PM

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Limited as in how? Saw lots of sizes still available online, on sale at rm129.
QUOTE(chiahau @ Jan 12 2015, 07:37 PM)
The pure blue series is much better, but too bad super limited
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post Jan 13 2015, 05:13 PM

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Looks like fake selvedge to me.
QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Jan 12 2015, 10:22 PM)
Selvedge for only RM79.90?
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post Feb 9 2015, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(chris916 @ Feb 7 2015, 09:17 AM)
last time, when i first searching for lower end selvedge jeans, end up buying in Burton menswear ,feel the quality and the cutting at this pricing was quite nice. was the brand good -how do you guys think?

sorry, newbie for denim  sweat.gif

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Doesn't look raw too for me, and quite expensive given the quality. I'd concur with skeleton202 that Uniqlo is a better choice when it comes to this.

A side note, just a proposal but isn't it time we remove selvedge from the topic and just go for raw or denim in general? I like selvedge and all, but over time it's become a bit of an overkill. People are confusing selvedge with premium or better quality. IMO a great denim doesn't necessarily need to have a selvedge line, it's all about the fabric, how they fall etc. It's not about the red stitch on your upturned cuff, it's about how the material falls to complement your build.

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post Feb 11 2015, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Feb 10 2015, 12:43 AM)
I dont mind but then again for me selvedge denim is one of the sought after denim. Its the cherry on the icing cake.
Yes a good denim is about the cut and fabric but i do believe selvedge is a better fabric than projectile loom denim fabric.
If u put up just denim in general all sort of denim will flooded the thread and it beat the purpose of having the discussion on raw and selvedge denim. Of course people will confuse however as long as we as the poster of this thread explain about the differences regrading the raw and selvedge denim it'll be ok i guess.
Anyways for selvedge and raw denim they got their own cult here in malaysia and i mean its big.
So yeah if other people need to know denim in general we can provide information for it, however i like it to retain the raw and selvedge denim because its kindda different from ur regular denim.
Thats my opinion anyways
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But then you do have raw denim which aren't selvedge as well.
I can see where you're coming from with the whole selvedge thing. But I just have to disagree sometimes especially in recent years. Selvedge has become sort of a fashion accessory, and you have tons of selvedge coming out which aren't up to par and clearly inferior to even non-selvedge raws. Shouldn't we focus on the fabrics instead in this case? It's easy to make selvedge fabric, but not everyone gets the denim heritage right.


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post Feb 11 2015, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(chris916 @ Feb 10 2015, 07:58 PM)
Seem like my first selvedge attempt was not so ideal, haha, I did survey for the uniqlo before, good fabric but the cutting not so fit me, probably because I'm too slim. Yes, I think was not raw also, but the material and cutting feel nice so I choose to adopt it, as not much I can find in pen. next time will acquire better one once I have the budget, thanks for the comment  given smile.gif

Still waiting the arrival of my 1st Nudie as well:)
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I'm surprised, no APC? I find APC's come out with the best cuts for slim people.
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post Feb 11 2015, 03:24 PM

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Your wallet fade looks messed up, Riz. Show us your wallet, c'mon.
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post Apr 25 2015, 06:23 AM

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Freezer method doesn't really work, you're just slowing down the bacteria growth for awhile before it comes back with a vengeance.
Just hang your jeans somewhere airy and shaded, airing your jeans helps a lot with the odors.

QUOTE(VitaCxZ @ Apr 2 2015, 09:10 AM)
Can I wait a bit further?I heard a method which is keep the smelly jeans in the freezer to eliminates the odor and kills the bacteria.Reason why i dont want to wash to qyick is becaudr scare fading not nice when washed.
I'm wearing raw nudie tube tom
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post May 28 2015, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(junky_man @ May 28 2015, 03:09 PM)
thanks for the info share!

Just to share, I went to Levi's KLCC new outlet. Was really impressed of the LVCs brought in.

the LVCs were from the 40's to 70's. each having their own distinct identities of their years. Even saw a 501Z = 501 with a zipper fly!

I also chatted with the sales person there. He mention this guy, Yosuke, was in store. After googling who is this guy, apparently he is some famous Levi's super fan.

anyone else been to the new Levi's store in KLCC?
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Lucky you. Mr. Otsubo does work for LVC, he's their sales and marketing guy. Quite the expert on denim.

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