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post Apr 9 2014, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(Kar Weng @ Apr 9 2014, 01:29 AM)
Hello everyone I'm new here (just registered on Lowyat.NET in fact), so pardon me for my ignorance especially with the forum's unspoken rules.

I've gone through Starting Strength for awhile back then (before doing SS, I was just like every other clueless but passionate biceps-curling guys in the gym for about a year  sad.gif  ), and I'm now training on my own 4days-split (Deadlift, Squat, Bench Press and Press are the main focuses on each day).

This is what I heard:
1) If you have more muscles, it's easier for you to lose fat due to the higher BMR (as a result of having more lean mass)
2) If you bulk from a lower BF %, the mass you gain has more quality (as in gaining more muscles and less fat on a caloric surplus) compared to bulking from a higher BF % (I'm not sure how true is no.2)
3) To have a good physique in the long run I need to have a good foundation of strength

3 of these theories aren't contradicting with each other by themselves of course. However, it makes it hard for me to decide whether or not to continue bulking.
I'm currently still pursuing for more weights on the bar(refer to no.3), so naturally it should make sense for me to be in a caloric surplus. The problem now is that my BF % has obviously increased throughout these periods of strength training, especially visible on the belly (I started out skinny fat 40kg and have never seen my abs before).

I am 55.5kg (or a little higher since I've not been measuring for awhile) now, with very tiny girly bone frame.

These are my current main lifting numbers (5rep max)
Deadlift - 102.5kg
Squat - 72.5kg
Bench Press - 50kg
Overhead Press - 38.5kg

So my question is, should I just continue what I'm doing until I have a certain level of size and strength? Or is no.2 true and I should lower my BF % 1st to gain quality mass? It'd be hard for me to increase/maintain my lifts if I'm in a caloric deficit state. Tell me your opinion and what you think about the 3 rules I mentioned above.
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40kg, skinny fat. I can only imagine you as tall as 155cm. What's your height?
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post Apr 10 2014, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(Kar Weng @ Apr 9 2014, 09:40 PM)
My height is around 166cm. I had eating disorder during puberty so I have very thin and light bones.

This is how I looked like when I was in form 4 (16year-old). I started exercising after I felt heart pain (didn't dare to go for medical check up though) and muscles twitches so please don't hate, I started way below where everyone else did. In the beginning I couldn't do 1 push up or climb up the stairs without panting.
I'm now approaching 20year-old, hoping to make a change.

As for my diet, I'm not tempted to eat anything dirty like junk food/McD. My staple food are eggs, meat (fish/chicken/pork), rice/brown rice, some vege and fruits, olives, low fat/fresh milk, peanut butter, bread, tuna etc etc... Of course I'm still far from perfect in dieting but at the very least I don't eat no shit (unless my parents force me to in some cases).
The only supplements I take are Dymatize elite whey, Dymatize BCAA complex 5050 and Fish Oil.

As for my rest/recovery, I have very severe insomnia since puberty started and I have a very irregular sleeping pattern (still trying to fix it). I try to get around 8hours of sleep per day but it's sort of irregular and broken into parts.

Please answer the questions of my 1st post but feel free to ask me if you need more info to figure things out. Thanks  smile.gif
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Bro, since you were so skinny and still is, you shouldn't really have to avoid good stuff like McD. You should list out what you eat everyday so everyone can judge. But since you're so skinny and you're eating clean. Chances are you're still under eating.

Bout your deadlift, I've seen people around your height doing as heavy as you are and they're quite big. Are you sure about your form? Deadlift is something you should focus on your form, you could be buying a one way ticket to snap city if you're doing heavy with shitty form (of course pretty much everything else).

You should be more flexible in your diet, check out dirty food thread in this forum and IIFYM. You don't have to torment yourself since you have to do this as a lifestyle. Or you enjoy eating clean the rest of your life.


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post Apr 11 2014, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(Kar Weng @ Apr 10 2014, 10:35 PM)
I'm not sure if I'm still skinny (cause I can see the belly), I have really thick legs, glutes and traps, but my show-off muscles (chest and arms) are quite small compared to other gym goers who are not even as strong as I am. Also I do have some bicep curls and tricep extension in my training routine, and I understand that they should not substitute the place of my important main lifts.

As for my form yes I'm pretty sure it's fine (straight posterior chain and all that). I watch a lot of lifting videos on Youtube especially form big channels like Omarisuf and Johnnie Candito (P.S I hate Mike Chang he's a total fraud) and I know what good form is (I also read T-Nation articles whenever available). I once started to round my back a little so I began doing paused DL which fixed the problem altogether. When I DL heavy the ppl in my gym will stare at me cause powerlifting moves is not a thing there (bicep curling is) and also I look small. The staff even though I'd break their floor doing DL =.= Btw I do my DL barefoot now (somewhat shorter range of motion).

And I know what is IIFYM, will definitely check the dirty food thread out  smile.gif
I usually eat dirty when I'm socializing (don't wanna be a b**** here). I personally don't get tempted easily by delicious but "dirty" food by now so I won't consider it a torment. My family eat things like Maggi on a daily basis though so they think I'm insane.
Thanks for your insights biggrin.gif!
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Show your pic so the sifus here can tell you better, imo

QUOTE(661188 @ Apr 11 2014, 01:03 AM)
u guys know how to use spoiler?
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post Apr 15 2014, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 14 2014, 11:03 PM)
Well, I'm halfway into my cutting phase. I never really had problems being lean but it's my first time trying to shred. As in really shred. I'll post up a progress shot in 2-3 weeks time.

Keeping strength up is important on a cut. Pulled a 435lbs x 4 deadlift yesterday.
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GameFr3ak
post Apr 16 2014, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 15 2014, 02:59 PM)
Lol, if you know what I eat on a cut, what you label junk is nothing. 5'8" 67.8kg, less than 9%bf. probably lower but I'd rather overestimate than underestimate to keep my expectations high.
Yes, pick up heavy shit, put it down. Repeat.
Thanks for putting up a steroid induced freakshow pic up there as a fine example to all the newbies here. Don't get you.
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okay, bad example

QUOTE(pj_guitarist @ Apr 15 2014, 11:44 PM)
bro seriously waffles is on your cut diet? i can die knowing i just don't have the gift of hyperbolic metabolism edi.
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ya need to buy a blackhole device that he have installed in his stomach

 

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