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 Fundsupermart.com v6, Manage your own unit trust portfolio

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post Apr 24 2014, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Apr 24 2014, 09:17 PM)
isnt it the same as Hwang Select Bond Fund?
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Hwang Select Bond is not EPF-approved, hence not restricted to 30% foreign. And it's got sales charge. RHB-OSK Income Fund 2 is 0% SC.
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post Apr 24 2014, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Apr 24 2014, 07:44 PM)
mine
CIMB PRS growth (since dec 2013) 1.51%
CIMB PRS asia pacific ex japan equity (since feb 2014) 3.45%

guess its high risk,high return concept after all haha
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yup, high risk high return tongue.gif

by the way i also got these 2 PRS, forget share.

Hwang PRS Moderate Fund = 3.20%
Hwang AIIMAN PRS Shariah Growth Fund = 5.78%

the Hwang Moderate gets higher return than CIMB Growth thumbup.gif
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post Apr 24 2014, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(pipedream @ Apr 24 2014, 09:08 PM)
Sorry, asked this in another thread, seems here's more relevant

I read all of the beginner stuff from Fundsupermart. I got 30k cash for investing right now. I want a relatively safe investing scheme, so from what I read, should I buy 30k worth of unit trust from fixed income group? What does the percentage means from the table?

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...tormaincode=All
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Relatively conservative fixed income fund could give a return merely similar or slightly higher than FD; in the range of 3.5 to 4.5%

Moderately aggressive fixed income fund could give a better higher return at the range of 5 to 6%; they will with short to medium term papers with lower credit rating (below triple As).

Balanced fixed income fund will invest a portion of it into equity market; usually up to 30 to 50% of total NAV

Aggressive fixed income fund could give a much higher return up to 8%. They will mix with several instruments in order to meet such high return.

Disclaimer: Above comments are generalization and not specifically refer to any fund in particular
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post Apr 24 2014, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(akira de aimbuster @ Apr 24 2014, 06:34 PM)
what's great about Frankilin Templeton? hmm.gif
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It's well-known and prestigious fund house in the world. whistling.gif
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post Apr 25 2014, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 24 2014, 08:39 PM)
KGF has been the top selling fund for FSM almost every week.
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Yeah, 37% up here, my best performer in FSM portfolio

2nd = Eastspring Indonesia +23%
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post Apr 25 2014, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 25 2014, 12:03 AM)
Relatively conservative fixed income fund could give a return merely similar or slightly higher than FD; in the range of 3.5 to 4.5%

Moderately aggressive fixed income fund could give a better higher return at the range of 5 to 6%; they will with short to medium term papers with lower credit rating (below triple As).

Balanced fixed income fund will invest a portion of it into equity market; usually up to 30 to 50% of total NAV

Aggressive fixed income fund could give a much higher return up to 8%. They will mix with several instruments in order to meet such high return.

Disclaimer: Above comments are generalization and not specifically refer to any fund in particular
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Thanks for the info David! One more noobie question, how does the UT returns work? Is it sort like every month, there's an evaluation, if there's positive returns, the money are credited to your bank account? What if there's a negative return? Means my UT value drops?
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post Apr 25 2014, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(pipedream @ Apr 25 2014, 07:32 AM)
Thanks for the info David! One more noobie question, how does the UT returns work? Is it sort like every month, there's an evaluation, if there's positive returns, the money are credited to your bank account? What if there's a negative return? Means my UT value drops?
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The simplest way is to use ROI.

ROI = [Current valuation (Current NAV * Units on hand) - Capital Invested (Average Unit Cost * Units on hand] / Capital Invested

At the beginning, ROI is usually negative because of upfront sales charge imposed.

There's no guideline for portfolio analysis. It's totally up to you. Don't too frequent such as daily or weekly will exhaust you. You can opt for calendar quarter or monthly.

Anything fall beyond ROI (at the service charge threshold) indicates that the fund NAV is dropping due to some reason.
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QUOTE(pipedream @ Apr 25 2014, 07:32 AM)
Thanks for the info David! One more noobie question, how does the UT returns work? Is it sort like every month, there's an evaluation, if there's positive returns, the money are credited to your bank account? What if there's a negative return? Means my UT value drops?
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Err...UT is not like bank fixed deposits.

U need to do more homework on WHAT IS UNIT TRUST.

I think Post #1 have some links that can help u.

Here:
http://www.fimm.com.my/investor/abc-of-unit-trusts/

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Apr 25 2014, 09:12 AM
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post Apr 25 2014, 11:51 AM

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Wow.. how come Hwang AIIMAN Select Income NAV jump from 0.5491 to 0.5741
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Apr 24 2014, 05:48 PM)
Hmm, FSM now selling wholesale funds from Franklin Templeton but only to qualified investors. Too bad I'm not a qualified investor.
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What is wholesale fund and how does it differ from the current ones offered on FSM?



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QUOTE(yenforyen @ Apr 25 2014, 05:00 PM)
What is wholesale fund and how does it differ from the current ones offered on FSM?
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Wholesale = u buy in bulk
Retail = u buy in small quantities

Get the point? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(yenforyen @ Apr 25 2014, 06:00 PM)
What is wholesale fund and how does it differ from the current ones offered on FSM?
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I see the wholesale fund that FSM offering needs initial investment of 10k. Subsequent investment of 1K
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 25 2014, 08:32 PM)
I see the wholesale fund that FSM offering needs initial investment of 10k.  Subsequent investment of 1K
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er.. RM10K & RM1K? no biggie what - why lar need to be of certain level of income or investable assets?
er.. i'm AssUMe-ing this relates to Franklin Templeton funds

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QUOTE(Lexter910 @ Apr 24 2014, 03:40 PM)
yklooi,

Hi is me smile.gif
I have read the content from "school" in FSM website.

what should i do next?
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got your emergency fund readied?
got surplus funds that your are NOT expected to touch for 3~5 years?
know your expected returns to expect?
know your risk appetite?

still want to go to mutual funds as your investment vehicle?
just a note: there are some other investment vehicles that are more efficient...

if still want mutual funds....try FSM or Eunittrust websites..they have recommended portfolios.....

study them....if you liked them...then go for it.


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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Apr 25 2014, 10:50 PM)
er.. RM10K & RM1K? no biggie what - why lar need to be of certain level of income or investable assets?
er.. i'm AssUMe-ing this relates to Franklin Templeton funds
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Yes if using EPF, not much of a big deal. If using cash is tight.

Yeah, thing the name is Franklin one of the main reason
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post Apr 26 2014, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Apr 25 2014, 01:08 AM)
Yeah, 37% up here, my best performer in FSM portfolio

2nd = Eastspring Indonesia +23%
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Yeah so are you still topping up on them ?
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post Apr 26 2014, 11:23 PM

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So the question is...

How good is TF funds? hmm.gif

still researching about it...
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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 24 2014, 11:08 PM)
It's well-known and prestigious fund house in the world. whistling.gif
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Lehman Bros was pretty well known smile.gif

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post Apr 27 2014, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Apr 27 2014, 08:06 PM)
Lehman Bros was pretty well known smile.gif
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That one was playing with fire. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 26 2014, 10:18 PM)
Yeah so are you still topping up on them ?
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Still topping up Kenanga Growth

Indonesia I haven't, as bought Indonesia US ETF (Annual charge 0.61% vs Eastspring 1.8%)

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